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post Yesterday, 09:49
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QUOTE(--一虹-- @ Nov 2 2025, 14:45) *

什么，这才开了一天不到就总结出了套路，我怎么不知道

你们哪里讨论了，我怎么没看见


QQ群里啊，昨天开荒的时候我就自己摸索到大体打法了。
而且也去discord说过
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post Yesterday, 09:54
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post Yesterday, 10:05
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QUOTE(unitready @ Nov 2 2025, 09:49) *

QQ群里啊，昨天开荒的时候我就自己摸索到大体打法了。
而且也去discord说过

QUOTE(--一虹-- @ Nov 2 2025, 09:54) *

有群号吗，我看看


我也想要

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想问一下上一个赛季异世界的装备和C大概什么时候能送到主世界呀
以什么方式送到呢，邮件还是直接添加
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post Yesterday, 10:10
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暫時只有P+裝備才是hath sink啊，如果這些perks的C/P值非常不合理，估計以後主要版本答案就是爛大街全P 1H mage？

重點是Spark of Life也不能常駐保命了，感覺現有版本的主流法師build基本上全廢了？玻璃大砲怕是連AR也刷不穩啊
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post Yesterday, 10:14
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重甲减伤高，但比轻甲好不到哪里，不是撑住暴击不被秒就完事了，无法正循环一样死。
我魂绑了主手和盾牌，根据掉落装备随时切换3轻2重 or 2轻3重以及对应技能，但不管切哪个都差不多。我是建议哪个类型好装备掉得多就切哪个。
现在最大的问题是无法锻造，70级后压力剧增，这两天没掉过一个种子市场也没得买。
无法锻造的话就算一身对名 P 也照样以相同的姿势喷出去。
100级有火花也只是让死亡回合延长几回合，继续这么打下去怕只能降级 x7 了，难度越低掉的装备越垃圾，这下死循环了。

如果是过了早鸟期的新人来打异世界， 体验更差，开局连一身上等都捡不到，只能早早降级 x7。

如果每过一层塔给个世界树种子，那还能玩下去，跟上赛季差不多。
或者粗暴给让种子掉率翻个10倍，不然前期这玩意又要炒上天了。
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post Yesterday, 10:26
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 2 2025, 15:16) *

I've made a first pass at adjusting the monster accuracy scaling, as well as added some better instrumentation for this. Let me know how noticeable the difference is.

The hit/avoid changes are not intended to significantly change the difficulty, so keep letting me know how it feels compared to how it used to work; as mentioned in the update notes, it is going to need some tuning.

Will read the last page or so of posts in a little bit.

波羅說有降低怪物的等級放大，但我自己感覺還是難度很高

話說怪物打不痛會被三抗擋掉也是很麻煩，但 Ethereal 前綴可遇不可求 orz
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post Yesterday, 10:32
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我也试过各种搭配，重甲一穿就没回避了，别说3重甲，就算1重甲+塔盾其他位置全轻甲回避也是0， 虽然减伤高了但是也少了一种防御
综合试下来还是轻甲混个1件重甲再带力场盾比较好，别的盾要么太重要么格挡太低，都不太行
混相位倒是没试过，因为店里拖不到合适的……
武器这块重视防御的话匕首应该就是最好的了，其次是短剑，斧头烂出地心，西洋目前看不出任何优势

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post Yesterday, 10:44
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QUOTE(worms3000 @ Nov 2 2025, 17:32) *

我也试过各种搭配，重甲一穿就没回避了，别说3重甲，就算1重甲+塔盾其他位置全轻甲回避也是0， 虽然减伤高了但是也少了一种防御
综合试下来还是轻甲混个1件重甲再带力场盾比较好，别的盾要么太重要么格挡太低，都不太行
混相位倒是没试过，因为店里拖不到合适的……
武器这块重视防御的话匕首应该就是最好的了，其次是短剑，斧头烂出地心，西洋目前看不出任何优势

你竟然有力场盾 我都怀疑菠萝更新是不是把力场盾搞没了
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post Yesterday, 10:45
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重甲技能組比較不會因為倒楣全部Roll到chip damage被秒殺

越高樓層會越明顯
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post Yesterday, 10:47
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HV 也要走魂类路线吗，一个轮次翻滚一个轮次输出无限循环磨死怪物。
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post Yesterday, 10:55
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看菠萝的说明的话现在的暴击也依存于命中，回避低也意味着吃到暴击的机率会变高
其实目前被飞的情况都是被暴击打飞的，无论是重甲还是轻甲
至于等级上去后的情况如何就不清楚了，难道会改成轻甲爬不了塔 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

QUOTE(nguzhr @ Nov 2 2025, 16:44) *

你竟然有力场盾 我都怀疑菠萝更新是不是把力场盾搞没了

系统店拖的中等力场盾，虽然我也不知道为什么会有人把这东西卖店 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Yesterday, 11:00
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Nov 2 2025, 16:47) *

HV 也要走魂类路线吗，一个轮次翻滚一个轮次输出无限循环磨死怪物。

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QUOTE(Sad Penguin @ Nov 2 2025, 12:03) *

...
還有更新喜聞樂見的一輪次自動腳本，然後再砸點錢衝個全P什麼的，就能繼續躺平摸魚退休養老
人人都是腳本仔的時代簡直不能再爽，也不用再調侃一堆有編程能力的碼農，好像天天不務正業似的，

整天就在那「手動」刷什麼HV、龜速爬塔，還日下萬層，以後也不用再藏着掖着了~
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你覺得他會什麼都沒準備直接下來畫紅線嗎? XDD

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post Yesterday, 11:11
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这次更新大削火花，感觉未来主世界法师是不容易打高难度AR了，不知道要不要考虑放弃了
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post Yesterday, 11:49
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更新后除了Evade, 其他减伤的上限都低了, 线性计算概率前期更是难顶
不过Evade数值也低, 影纱相对而言被大砍, 暂时不清楚后期Evade能堆多高

还有这额外暴击完全不利好玩家啊
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post Yesterday, 12:03
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我试了3轻甲2相位的单手剑盾，不是很能闪……然后3重甲上了发现直接没回避了，在x7的难度里面，三次爆火花，
细检查就是怪吟唱某个元素魔法然后暴击打中了4000多的伤害……装备也一直没掉，就最开始见到一个M，后面连E
没掉几个……

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post Yesterday, 12:13
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QUOTE(hc br @ Nov 2 2025, 12:59) *

問一下各位，

A品質裝和A以下現在看起來是不是直接設定賣掉比較好

因為現在看起來修理裝備越往後期會變的沒啥必要，只要你不噴的話

還有就是S裝的處理，

現在看起來似乎是拆掉比直接賣划算，因為裝備強化需要量變大了，

但不知道M裝需不需要低等材料強化，前期需要的話量又是多少?

對了，道奇剛剛拿了總冠軍，山本由伸又先發又後援一個人拿三勝勇奪MVP


M 動力甲第一級強化100低鐵
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post Yesterday, 12:20
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試著用輕甲dw爬x10gf，好像還行?

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post Yesterday, 12:26
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单手流派现在要更频繁地使用武器技能了。
以前那个1H开灵动架势无脑砍砍砍时代差不多要结束了
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post Yesterday, 12:30
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这么说那我还是早日弃坑算了，没意思

太费操作了，一点也不轮椅

我的152级无双力盾现在是26.4的格挡，我看了一下36级的截图，是17.7的格挡
算下来一级增加0.075%的格挡，对等级高利好，200级到30格挡也打不了x15
而且iw还不知道什么时候才能有碎片打

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post Yesterday, 12:38
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請問gf x15難度打幾場就撤 跟x7難度打30-40場 哪個比較好?
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