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post Jun 15 2025, 10:54
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post Jun 15 2025, 13:22
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Silence的施法速度是多少，翻了一下wiki没记录。
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post Jun 15 2025, 14:46
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圣法刷GF真不行，50强不如20-30强的风法
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post Jun 15 2025, 16:34
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圣法刷GF真不行，50强不如20-30强的风法


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post Jun 16 2025, 11:59
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Boss直骗真的好多牛鬼蛇神
但是不用这个又不知道去哪里找工作 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jun 16 2025, 14:37
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Boss直骗真的好多牛鬼蛇神
但是不用这个又不知道去哪里找工作 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


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post Jun 16 2025, 15:27
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post Jun 16 2025, 16:47
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请问，这把L斧头能用来爬塔吗，Ethereal ADB 46%, Str 98%
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现在用的是这把ADB 98%, Parry 35%的Ex刺剑，伤害不太够，爬塔要费时6700+ turn了
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post Jun 16 2025, 17:14
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换上斧头少了20%招架会死得很安详 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
继续蹲毕业西洋/短剑吧
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post Jun 16 2025, 17:23
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QUOTE(Lady_Slayer @ Jun 16 2025, 20:37) *

每个市的人社局似乎都还保留着线下牛马市场这种东西，网上求职平台确实是方便些，但不代表线下的机会都消失
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看了一下我家附近人社部门发的企业直招通知，基本上都是进厂干活、文秘财务 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) 有的甚至直接把门槛提高到硕士，现在这些企业招牛马也要开始卷高级牛马了吗 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post Jun 16 2025, 18:12
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QUOTE(剑行血间 @ Jun 16 2025, 23:14) *

换上斧头少了20%招架会死得很安详 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
继续蹲毕业西洋/短剑吧

好的……咦，短剑也可以吗
那这把L短剑可以用来爬塔吗，ADB 66%, Parry 84%
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不过如果目标是100F的话，最终还是只能用西洋的吧?

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看了一下我家附近人社部门发的企业直招通知，基本上都是进厂干活、文秘财务 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) 有的甚至直接把门槛提高到硕士，现在这些企业招牛马也要开始卷高级牛马了吗 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

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post Jun 16 2025, 19:00
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QUOTE(einhers @ Jun 17 2025, 00:12) *

好的……咦，短剑也可以吗
那这把L短剑可以用来爬塔吗，ADB 66%, Parry 84%
Legendary Tempestuous Shortsword of Slaughter
不过如果目标是100F的话，最终还是只能用西洋的吧?
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都到這個時間段了，

M西洋根本不難搞，

數值高的帶屬性的可能難找一些，

最簡單就是找無屬性但數值頂的，

現在道具價格也跌了，價差夠你去買 Infused 用到爽
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post Jun 16 2025, 19:23
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QUOTE(hc br @ Jun 17 2025, 01:00) *

M西洋根本不難搞，
數值高的帶屬性的可能難找一些，
最簡單就是找無屬性但數值頂的，
現在道具價格也跌了，價差夠你去買 Infused 用到爽

了解！
刚好在看上一季爬塔的装备参考，看到你的分享，用的就是高roll无属性M西洋
（不过其他装备都很好，锻造也高）

可惜没买上上期Noni拍那两件无属性的M西洋了
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post Jun 17 2025, 01:58
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其实直接在isk里面的wts找有很多m西洋剑的

不用非等拍卖

我昨天就买了一个加速相位头
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post Jun 17 2025, 02:16
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不带属性冲击的高rollM西洋我扔店都扔了好几把了，感觉没什么人要，这东西不如中roll的属性西洋
魔药的问题在于涂了就不能放置了，必须立刻打完，后面一坐一个钟不说，特别对我这种早上压体力进塔，在白天
至晚上陆陆续续打完，体力回到60以上再打65、90AR的规划方式不友好
其实如果ex西洋本来就高roll的话换成M的提升也没多大，比如我现在用M西洋5400攻，以前的EX西洋也有5200多，提升不
足4%
不过你手上这把招架太低了生存上会有压力，前几期拍卖都有挺便宜的西洋就该换了，没必要硬等虚空

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post Jun 17 2025, 03:38
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QUOTE(--一虹-- @ Jun 17 2025, 07:58) *

其实直接在isk里面的wts找有很多m西洋剑的
不用非等拍卖

谢谢！刚去找了下Isekai Trade，发现一把中roll的M属性西洋，正在询价
QUOTE(worms3000 @ Jun 17 2025, 08:16) *

不带属性冲击的高rollM西洋我扔店都扔了好几把了，感觉没什么人要，这东西不如中roll的属性西洋
魔药的问题在于涂了就不能放置了，必须立刻打完
其实如果ex西洋本来就高roll的话换成M的提升也没多大
不过你手上这把招架太低了生存上会有压力，前几期拍卖都有挺便宜的西洋就该换了，没必要硬等虚空

的确，Infusion虽然方便，但需要时间规划，一直用的话现实中会有压力……Time is money, time is life.
多谢指点，原来我短板在招架不足，真是顾此失彼
看来这期ISK想继续爬塔的话，是时候换掉Ex西洋了，不能奢求武器一步到位
QUOTE(剑行血间 @ May 7 2025, 19:53) *

我是建议200级之前魂绑1把双对名Ex西洋剑+Ex高roll格挡圆盾/鸟盾，一直到350级左右再换M西洋剑和M力场盾，如果你要爬塔的话300级就得准备买了。

再次感谢剑行当时的建议，这把Ex西洋剑魂绑后一直陪伴我到了60层塔（现在360级）
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中roll m西洋你要吗

谢谢！但不用了。这把和我现在的Ex差不多(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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中roll m西洋你要吗

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post Jun 17 2025, 08:44
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QUOTE(tjjyuki @ Jun 15 2025, 20:46) *

圣法刷GF真不行，50强不如20-30强的风法

基础熟练多少了，加熟练袍之后面板熟练多少？


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post Jun 17 2025, 15:13
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各位前輩好，想偷問一下你們玩到後面一天大概能有多少credit的收入啊（不靠幫人洗裝還是打什麼IW的），我現在
玩所以領著不少第一次通關獎勵，給我種感覺好像錢也不是很缺，拿去偷抽了一堆神壇的供品搞裝備
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post Jun 17 2025, 16:14
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各位前輩好，想偷問一下你們玩到後面一天大概能有多少credit的收入啊（不靠幫人洗裝還是打什麼IW的），我現在
玩所以領著不少第一次通關獎勵，給我種感覺好像錢也不是很缺，拿去偷抽了一堆神壇的供品搞裝備

4大全开的金星玩家开了红牛环的情况下，AR全清再刷掉第一瓶红牛给的20体力，一天大约是350~450k
非金星玩家一天约250k
如果有打异世界还能再多个250k
差不多这样
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