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post Apr 12 2025, 15:55
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看起来其他部位应该不只150m了
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post Apr 12 2025, 16:28
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私以为还是看当期拍卖有没有人突然脑子一热不计代价抢的。

p棍基本都这价格了,个人感觉还是棍子重要些。
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post Apr 12 2025, 16:30
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这好像是S拍历年来第一件满级加速P风鞋, 价格高也能理解
对名P产量极少, 价格很容易就炒起来的
L加速风袍就已经交易了2件100m+的了, P怕不是要200m+
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post Apr 12 2025, 16:44
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半年内彩票已经出了4件还是5件P加速风,两根风棍,雷我一件都没看过,菠萝肯定对雷系有偏见

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通关观察8JQFPA的出价学到了一些没用的知识
S拍的next bid是30k 50k 3%,但是可以通过proxy bid打破这个限制
对一件商品proxy设为82k,此时是50k proxy,然后当80k报价出现时,检测双方的proxy以高的取胜,就变成82k proxy
50k -> 80k -> 82k
大部分人出价习惯都是按next bid
50k -> 80k -> 110k
而他可以用这个空子从原本需要出价110k变成81k、82k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
对于有标的拍品,他同样会以非0数字结尾,如果准确猜中你的底线,就能省下一次bid
好好的拍卖会变成猜数字游戏了,Super给每件拍品3次修改proxy机会还是太过宽容了,一次拍卖只能修改3次还差不多
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post Apr 12 2025, 17:27
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QUOTE(剑行血间 @ Apr 12 2025, 22:44) *

半年内彩票已经出了4件还是5件P加速风,两根风棍,雷我一件都没看过,菠萝肯定对雷系有偏见

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通关观察8JQFPA的出价学到了一些没用的知识
S拍的next bid是30k 50k 3%,但是可以通过proxy bid打破这个限制
对一件商品proxy设为82k,此时是50k proxy,然后当80k报价出现时,检测双方的proxy以高的取胜,就变成82k proxy
50k -> 80k -> 82k
大部分人出价习惯都是按next bid
50k -> 80k -> 110k
而他可以用这个空子从原本需要出价110k变成81k、82k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
对于有标的拍品,他同样会以非0数字结尾,如果准确猜中你的底线,就能省下一次bid
好好的拍卖会变成猜数字游戏了,Super给每件拍品3次修改proxy机会还是太过宽容了,一次拍卖只能修改3次还差不多



我寻思P雷也不难收啊 想想是不是自己不够努力
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post Apr 12 2025, 17:36
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QUOTE(剑行血间 @ Apr 12 2025, 22:44) *

半年内彩票已经出了4件还是5件P加速风,两根风棍,雷我一件都没看过,菠萝肯定对雷系有偏见

---------
通关观察8JQFPA的出价学到了一些没用的知识
S拍的next bid是30k 50k 3%,但是可以通过proxy bid打破这个限制
对一件商品proxy设为82k,此时是50k proxy,然后当80k报价出现时,检测双方的proxy以高的取胜,就变成82k proxy
50k -> 80k -> 82k
大部分人出价习惯都是按next bid
50k -> 80k -> 110k
而他可以用这个空子从原本需要出价110k变成81k、82k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
对于有标的拍品,他同样会以非0数字结尾,如果准确猜中你的底线,就能省下一次bid
好好的拍卖会变成猜数字游戏了,Super给每件拍品3次修改proxy机会还是太过宽容了,一次拍卖只能修改3次还差不多



Discord群也在討論他用相同手法在noni拍late bids

還滿沒禮貌的說真的

noni還要等那些愛晚標的玩完才能更新第一頁紀錄

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post Apr 12 2025, 18:16
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看在他发过不少无修本的份上放过他吧。毕竟他也没别的收入
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post Apr 12 2025, 18:33
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我倒是给他提供了5m买了他的熟练鞋(
说实话这个熟练鞋倒是有点超预算了, 我预期价格顶天3m, 没想到有一哥们一直在跟我battle
看了一下noni拍, 最后一个帖子还是他, 还在拍那件鞋子, 不过超时了
挺喜感的, 商家22:30就给我发MM已经签收了, 他23:00还在出价(
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post Apr 12 2025, 21:24
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最近入坑了Vanguard Revinez,感觉还挺不错的,就是买卡太麻烦了(xx
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post Apr 13 2025, 00:14
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QUOTE(剑行血间 @ Apr 12 2025, 09:29) *

HV Utils的加点模拟等级可以超过500,调整到需要的熟练度值,然后看超了多少级,配合HV经验图表看具体的数值
例如我在熟练560熟是503级,在580熟是521级,相减就是需要的经验量
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onceforall 算出来的?
在他的个博里好像。不记得还有其他谁算过经验值来着。。 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

这下看懂了。一算好艰难啊
又不想把同化点太高,又得刷。同化点完都要4-5个月的收入。
点完看了看对我满熟练减少了15个月,580熟练减少半年不到时间。感觉我的同化可以不点了
训练又多一个难以回本项目。除非转圣或者二天,不然用不到。等于是毕业项目了
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post Apr 13 2025, 02:42
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最近ed好像慢慢开始回升的样子
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post Apr 13 2025, 04:48
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打算满级前同化者点个20,最后5级要34m实在太贵,不碰圣法的话不想点了

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更好的DEA就不指望了,搜了下有人3年前用7.5m买下至今为止最好的战法盾,然后卖25m

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post Apr 13 2025, 05:29
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圣法3+2挺容易PF1的, 算了一下我目前的手跟杖+拍卖的鞋, 基础熟练度只用526就PF1了
我的元素法已经526了, 也不是很难刷
ps: 是以当前480级为标准算的

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post Apr 13 2025, 05:48
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QUOTE(123cmy321 @ Apr 13 2025, 11:29) *

圣法3+2挺容易PF1的, 算了一下我目前的手跟杖+拍卖的鞋, 基础熟练度只用526就PF1了
我的元素法已经526了, 也不是很难刷
ps: 是以当前480级为标准算的

你要现在就有526圣熟才行
等你有526圣熟,你的等级已经490了,需要538熟
等你有538圣熟,你的等级已经500了,需要550熟

我假设你之前没刷过圣熟练,如果同化者有20级,你要503.5级才能PF=1,需要满级后再刷2个月(每天一瓶红牛),在这之前PF会一直小于1
如果你有刷过,且同化者点到25,有机会在满级前刷到1

看了下我已经528元素熟练了,你同化者应该只有10级 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
重新追赶满级一半经验的熟练度没这么容易

这么一看tjj的熟练帽确实不错,满级先买可交易的帽+鞋/手,即使之前没刷过圣熟也能 1,刷几个月再换成手/鞋,把帽卖了。可惜没有新的圣法接盘

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post Apr 13 2025, 07:37
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打算满级前同化者点个20,最后5级要34m实在太贵,不碰圣法的话不想点了

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Legendary Reinforced Buckler of the Battlecaster
更好的DEA就不指望了,搜了下有人3年前用7.5m买下至今为止最好的战法盾,然后卖25m


玩風雷不拿杖跟冰火一樣不是嗎?

SDE也不錯 提升馬炮傷害和OC累計速度

我自己測試盾牌SDE, DEA對戰法消耗差距微乎其微

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post Apr 13 2025, 08:08
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玩風雷不拿杖跟冰火一樣不是嗎?

即使是风雷法,要拿法杖下GF也不容易,如果我打算用杖法低消耗打通GF,要投入30+m给三件中roll加速锻造 (其中装备和未来拆解有15m不可回收),还需要法杖5p4s,卷轴/SE/LE花费30k左右。在此基础上还要持续投入30m直到满锻。
如果用战法,身上这套花1m把脇差盾牌锻满就行了,省下来的钱投给各种收益项目
没有意外(菠萝送我另外三件P装)的话打算一直憋到580熟换一身毕业再用杖法刷

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即使是风雷法,要拿法杖下GF也不容易,如果我打算用杖法低消耗打通GF,要投入30+m给三件中roll加速锻造 (其中装备和未来拆解有15m不可回收),还需要法杖5p4s,卷轴/SE/LE花费30k左右。在此基础上还要持续投入30m直到满锻。
如果用战法,身上这套花1m把脇差盾牌锻满就行了,省下来的钱投给各种收益项目
没有意外(菠萝送我另外三件P装)的话打算一直憋到580熟换一身毕业再用杖法刷


確實

還有考量到目前ED來源的情況下 要達到最大化每日ROI

目前版本解答應該是戰法

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咸鱼火法已经摆烂了
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post Apr 13 2025, 10:45
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复活节活动开始了,IW掉了个没见过的东西,怎么是这个时间点开的,往年也是这样吗
今年是8个
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=284906

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复活节活动开始了,IW掉了个没见过的东西,怎么是这个时间点开的,往年也是这样吗
今年是8个
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=284906

以前都是提早开的,好像今年还晚了点,我之前还想在楼里问来着
之前从来没自力更生过,今年可以自己打了 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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