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post Jul 30 2022, 09:10
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想問下給怪物上的Debuff最多只會顯示6個,怎麼辦
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post Jul 30 2022, 10:18
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QUOTE(dongmian @ Jul 30 2022, 12:17) *

法师是不是打pf难度速度非常快额,我现在打龙场一刀刀砍还是要将近一小时的样子


通常配裝沒錯的話 就是減半起跳 一小時變成半小時以內 普通場會更快

QUOTE(cornandbeans @ Jul 30 2022, 12:36) *

Market價格大跳水,ED 91K 高布7k CP 320k

來選個好時機再退還大量HVM物品,繼續往死裡砸盤,砸成狗就對了


應該只是暫時性有大佬大量出貨 會漲回來 不過長期來看材料生產>消耗 也會慢慢跌吧

QUOTE(tjjyuki @ Jul 30 2022, 13:39) *

https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/436551/d9820e939a
杖总算刷出还行的iw了
塔楼几天没打已经掉出前100了,法师越级打塔楼需要什么配置,一身光头L强20够吗?


我這輪測試打算轉Slaughter裝 還不敢用法師爬 能強化盡量強吧 不過法師防提升不了多少 除非換加速M

主要還是卷軸+虛弱沉默睡眠那些 還有把防具IW打滿盡量打HP 風法打塔會好一點 靠你拓荒了 之後寫心得給大家
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post Jul 30 2022, 10:33
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market的ME卖价比三个MP低,LE比SE还低,离谱了。
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post Jul 30 2022, 11:59
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https://hentaiverse.org/equip/282411532/7e2c7611da
这个玩意起价10M,它值这么多么?

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Precursor Artifact (51/51)
13.7 % [7] Energy Drink
21.6 % [11] 2 Hath
11.8 % [6] Last Elixir
9.8 % [5] 1000x Crystal
[2] 1000x Crystal of Fortitude
[1] 1000x Crystal of Knowledge
[1] 1000x Crystal of Frost
[1] 1000x Crystal of Lightning
13.7 % [7] Wisdom was increased by 1
3.9 % [2] Intelligence was increased by 1
3.9 % [2] Strength was increased by 1
5.9 % [3] Endurance was increased by 1
13.7 % [7] Agility was increased by 1
2.0 % [1] Dexterity was increased by 1

51个PA垃圾出率小于ED出率,感觉还不错

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post Jul 30 2022, 12:42
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QUOTE(dongmian @ Jul 30 2022, 11:59) *

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/282411532/7e2c7611da
这个玩意起价10M,它值这么多么?

我推荐你考虑一下[Clo65]
理由如下:
1、现在叫价不高
2、等级够低,你准备能魂绑
3、前缀是加速,而且防御面很好
4、是熟练中件,刚转法可以获得更高的元素熟练

当然缺点也很明显,作为主属性的熟练roll得真的烂

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看了下,[Clo70]和[Clo71]等级也足够低
用衣服作为熟练部位的话,点出perks,训练随便点点,随便来个法杖都能有0.79的熟练因子

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post Jul 30 2022, 13:12
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QUOTE(tjjyuki @ Jul 30 2022, 07:39) *

https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/436551/d9820e939a
杖总算刷出还行的iw了
塔楼几天没打已经掉出前100了,法师越级打塔楼需要什么配置,一身光头L强20够吗?

!是送我西洋剑的大佬
谢谢大佬送的西洋剑
用来打传奇场太快了 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 30 2022, 13:41
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QUOTE(ok1995 @ Jul 30 2022, 04:42) *

我推荐你考虑一下[Clo65]
理由如下:
1、现在叫价不高
2、等级够低,你准备能魂绑
3、前缀是加速,而且防御面很好
4、是熟练中件,刚转法可以获得更高的元素熟练

当然缺点也很明显,作为主属性的熟练roll得真的烂

-----------------------------
看了下,[Clo70]和[Clo71]等级也足够低
用衣服作为熟练部位的话,点出perks,训练随便点点,随便来个法杖都能有0.79的熟练因子


我准备转风法了,拍了个风杖。

(IMG:[cdn.discordapp.com] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994895676351709214/1002903402067537940/unknown.png)
这几个是都没用吗?我看他们后缀都是风的样子
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post Jul 30 2022, 13:48
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QUOTE(dongmian @ Jul 30 2022, 13:41) *

我准备转风法了,拍了个风杖。

(IMG:[cdn.discordapp.com] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994895676351709214/1002903402067537940/unknown.png)
这几个是都没用吗?我看他们后缀都是风的样子

指引
建议先看看这个,元素法师还是推荐4相位+1熟练
穿一件熟练的收益比穿五件相位高
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post Jul 30 2022, 13:49
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QUOTE(dongmian @ Jul 30 2022, 19:41) *

我准备转风法了,拍了个风杖。

别用 Redwood,应该用 Willow

楼上链接没发出来,不过我猜是:
[Guide] Mage Equipment & Stats

还有:
[tieba.baidu.com] 法师入门

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post Jul 30 2022, 14:03
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QUOTE(azureice @ Jul 30 2022, 05:49) *

别用 Redwood,应该用 Willow


我看了下那几个willow都是500级的,感觉得搞个能用的先用着。

不过那几个willow我都买得起,有没有推荐的?

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post Jul 30 2022, 14:19
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QUOTE(dongmian @ Jul 30 2022, 14:03) *

我看了下那几个willow都是500级的,感觉得搞个能用的先用着。

不过那几个willow我都买得起,有没有推荐的?


都不推荐,买了你也穿不上

放在手里等于没买

你就盯着对名的(Leg/Mag Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction),能穿的(等级≤你等级+100)买

买到手后,找家帮打IW的点,打个5P(5P4S最好,但是会贵)就能用了



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post Jul 30 2022, 14:28
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QUOTE(ok1995 @ Jul 30 2022, 06:19) *

都不推荐,买了你也穿不上

放在手里等于没买

你就盯着对名的(Leg/Mag Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction),能穿的(等级≤你等级+100)买

买到手后,找家帮打IW的点,打个5P(5P4S最好,但是会贵)就能用了


好吧
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post Jul 30 2022, 15:11
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換了個頭像 但怎麼看都是舊的 奇怪了 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
樓上要轉風法的跟我挺像的 我以前(大概6年前)也是戰士 也有收藏火的太刀 後來也是轉風法

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post Jul 30 2022, 15:59
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QUOTE(イレイナ @ Jul 30 2022, 21:11) *

換了個頭像 但怎麼看都是舊的 奇怪了 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)



老问题了 有缓存 需要等一段时间 不同地方的人可能已经可以看见你的新头像了
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post Jul 30 2022, 16:00
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QUOTE(イレイナ @ Jul 30 2022, 21:11) *

換了個頭像 但怎麼看都是舊的 奇怪了 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

我这里看到的似乎是新的。
[postimages.org] (IMG:[i.postimg.cc] https://i.postimg.cc/g2JCC8Xf/image.png)

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QUOTE(dongmian @ Jul 30 2022, 20:03) *


我不好说值不值,因为我也是刚转法的新人。
不过往前翻几期拍卖,估算可能5~10M吧。如果他不设起始价,可能就被别人低价拍走放到WTS上卖了。
CODE
MDB 80%, EDB 51%, Elem Prof 91%, CR 58%


不清楚80%MDB相比50%在前期有多大差距;但是愿意花10M的人买毕业杖的人,可能也愿意多花10M,买根更好的?
没有合适的杖就再等几期吧。
可以看看前面给的链接,开环、训练,还有强化也要花费很多。


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post Jul 30 2022, 16:27
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現在開附魔的話龍場可以壓在30min內

但感覺重要的還是等級

等級沒到一堆裝備都穿不了

轉法就慢慢來吧

是說打女高要照當日增益屬性還是附暗/聖打比較快?

QUOTE(Kuroha Neko @ Jul 30 2022, 16:37) *

前兩件 加速的比較有用 加速風法生存力最高 後面3件不值錢以後要換

還是建議趕快練等 綁魂要大量魂片 不夠系統買 一片1000蠻貴的
這等級30分很快了 聖暗一起用最快

原來是可以一起附的嗎 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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QUOTE(dongmian @ Jul 30 2022, 19:41) *

我准备转风法了,拍了个风杖。

(IMG:[cdn.discordapp.com] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994895676351709214/1002903402067537940/unknown.png)
这几个是都没用吗?我看他们后缀都是风的样子


前兩件 加速的比較有用 加速風法生存力最高 後面3件不值錢以後要換

還是建議趕快練等 綁魂要大量魂片 不夠系統買 一片1000蠻貴的

QUOTE(Amffqfbs @ Jul 30 2022, 22:27) *

現在開附魔的話龍場可以壓在30min內

但感覺重要的還是等級

等級沒到一堆裝備都穿不了

轉法就慢慢來吧

是說打女高要照當日增益屬性還是附暗/聖打比較快?


這等級30分很快了 聖暗一起用最快
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其实我今天打龙场也快压到30分钟以内了
到第88波也才28分钟
但是没蓝挂掉了 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


掉了个Mag相位
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/282809934/96427140dd
多掉几件我也可以转风法了 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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QUOTE(Kuroha Neko @ Jul 30 2022, 16:37) *

前兩件 加速的比較有用 加速風法生存力最高 後面3件不值錢以後要換

還是建議趕快練等 綁魂要大量魂片 不夠系統買 一片1000蠻貴的
這等級30分很快了 聖暗一起用最快

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) 风雷防御面大概差多少呢?

我现在的感觉就是GF600层以后,如果我在放完3个imp+一个T3后没有爆火花,那我后面也不会爆了

但是放T3之前也没有元素特效

我现在就不知道我止步700层是不是元素的问题了
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新手剛玩了三日,把中文指引都看過一遍了目前沒遇上什麼大問題
但是在挑選裝備替換時因為數據太多有點困擾,請問有可以直接比對裝備數值的腳本嗎?

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