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post Feb 7 2025, 06:41
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QUOTE(nguzhr @ Feb 6 2025, 21:55) *

问一下各位回合/时间多少算快?
我之前最快的时候2.8t/s,这个最快理论值有多少呢?
网络对时间的影响太大了。

理论最快4t/s
10b说供应商解决了什么问题后,我的速度现在能达到3t/s,之前也是2.8左右
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post Feb 7 2025, 07:37
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QUOTE(l13763824039 @ Feb 6 2025, 23:41) *

理论最快4t/s
10b说供应商解决了什么问题后,我的速度现在能达到3t/s,之前也是2.8左右

你們是看打甚麼的t/s?
我平常打arena經常停下用藥水, 放imp和cure, 這樣下來一局大概只有1.8-2.6不等
打flying spaghetti monster因為能一直hover攻擊不做其它動作, 通常都有3.5
這算快還是慢? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Feb 7 2025, 08:38
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QUOTE(yinsan @ Feb 7 2025, 13:37) *

你們是看打甚麼的t/s?
我平常打arena經常停下用藥水, 放imp和cure, 這樣下來一局大概只有1.8-2.6不等
打flying spaghetti monster因為能一直hover攻擊不做其它動作, 通常都有3.5
這算快還是慢? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


面条 3.5 说明你那儿连接的网速非常好了。
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post Feb 7 2025, 08:44
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异世界拍卖这周是彻底不开了吗
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post Feb 7 2025, 09:15
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这期的风杖很好,不打算买 P 杖的话可以考虑买这把毕业。
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post Feb 7 2025, 09:19
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Feb 7 2025, 15:15) *

这期的风杖很好,不打算买 P 杖的话可以考虑买这把毕业。

主要属性80%以上,伤害和p差多少
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post Feb 7 2025, 09:45
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Feb 7 2025, 09:15) *

这期的风杖很好,不打算买 P 杖的话可以考虑买这把毕业。

好,我冲
60m了,不冲了,这根棍子好像跟之前说的那根差不多啊
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/285634470/9d21d72eb3
这还便宜不少

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post Feb 7 2025, 09:52
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好,我冲

有人和你battle了
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post Feb 7 2025, 10:01
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这61.8m就有点夸张了。一下子给我这15m的电棍都显得便宜了些(

同化者和三大点狠了,现在每天赚的c扔训练里就差不多没了,令人感叹。

不过现在装备也差不多了,没什么所谓就是了。甚至于最近两三天都没清ar。
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post Feb 7 2025, 10:15
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QUOTE(123cmy321 @ Feb 7 2025, 15:45) *

好,我冲
60m了,不冲了,这根棍子好像跟之前说的那根差不多啊
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/285634470/9d21d72eb3
这还便宜不少

一下子60m太狠了,连出价的机会都没有,对比起来下面那根20多m算是白菜价了

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主要属性80%以上,伤害和p差多少

两个80%的话不会超过4%
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post Feb 7 2025, 10:29
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QUOTE(剑行血间 @ Feb 7 2025, 16:15) *

两个80%的话不会超过4%


那确实可以毕业仗了

对了,你isk这身法师操作多吗。我也是3+2,不过有ex+0锻,打90层要放weaken和卷轴。
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post Feb 7 2025, 10:55
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QUOTE(l13763824039 @ Feb 7 2025, 13:41) *

理论最快4t/s
10b说供应商解决了什么问题后,我的速度现在能达到3t/s,之前也是2.8左右

就是说网速还能提升1/3 这样看提升网速比强化装备要厉害的多啊

QUOTE(剑行血间 @ Feb 7 2025, 17:15) *

一下子60m太狠了,连出价的机会都没有,对比起来下面那根20多m算是白菜价了
两个80%的话不会超过4%


百分比计算有公式或者插件吗

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post Feb 7 2025, 11:19
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QUOTE(sola470 @ Feb 7 2025, 16:29) *

对了,你isk这身法师操作多吗。我也是3+2,不过有ex+0锻,打90层要放weaken和卷轴。

80-90无消耗打,55-75五个普通场最后18回合各消耗1个卷轴,65和75是保护,另外3个是幻影
weaken一般只在SP条告急又不想用SP秘药才会上,用到的频率不高
为了省MP秘药的开销搞了2个省蓝词缀,之前全光头的话平均一天要6个MP秘药,现在CD刚刚转好不用吃了

L装数量和省蓝词缀数量加起来超过3就可以在低锻造情况下不喝MP秘药,物防和闪避锻造到位可以不喝SP秘药
比较理想的情况是三件低roll L相位15锻+两件L熟练部位20锻,普通场应该也可以无消耗打,之前转法太早了一身光头 M 消耗很大,如果多等一等别人不要的低roll L相位会轻松很多

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百分比计算有公式或者插件吗

手算的
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Level_Scaling
(1 + 500 / level_factor) * (base_stat1 - base_stat2) 这个是未锻造下两个不同 base 的差距
最后还需要再算上满锻的提升,不过锻造没找到公式,我是直接比较两根法杖满锻数据算的,最后按 5000MDB 和 400EDB 算两个提升值
百分比插件按 C 调整目标等级+最大强化下的属性好像有问题,跟实际数据对不上,每次还得找一下别人的满级满锻装备看数据

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post Feb 7 2025, 11:23
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QUOTE(剑行血间 @ Feb 7 2025, 17:19) *

80-90无消耗打,55-75五个普通场最后18回合各消耗1个卷轴,65和75是保护,另外3个是幻影
weaken一般只在SP条告急又不想用SP秘药才会上,用到的频率不高
为了省MP秘药的开销搞了2个省蓝词缀,之前全光头的话平均一天要6个MP秘药,现在CD刚刚转好不用吃了

L装数量和省蓝词缀数量加起来超过3就可以在低锻造情况下不喝MP秘药,物防和闪避锻造到位可以不喝SP秘药
比较理想的情况是三件低roll L相位15锻+两件L熟练部位20锻,普通场应该也可以无消耗打,之前转法太早了一身光头 M 消耗很大,如果多等一等别人不要的低roll L相位会轻松很多
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Level_Scaling
(1 + 500 / level_factor) * (base_stat1 - base_stat2) 这个是未锻造下两个不同 base 的差距
最后还需要再算上满锻的提升,不过锻造没找到公式,我是直接比较两根法杖满锻数据算的,最后按 5000MDB 和 400EDB 算两个提升值
百分比插件按 C 调整目标等级+最大强化下的属性好像有问题,跟实际数据对不上,每次还得找一下别人的装备看数据


補充鍛造公式

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/The_Forge#Upgrade


QUOTE(nguzhr @ Feb 7 2025, 16:55) *

就是说网速还能提升1/3 这样看提升网速比强化装备要厉害的多啊
百分比计算有公式或者插件吗


可以用mathl33t's Forge Optimizer輸入兩件裝備的基礎、鍛造值

看Magic score比較傷害差異

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post Feb 7 2025, 11:51
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isk拍卖这周应该是鸽了
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post Feb 7 2025, 12:08
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Legendary Radiant Phase Cap of Freyr (500, IW 10, Wind EDB 66%) (seller: hc br. Start: 10m)
S拍 hc br 卖的这件起拍价好高,万一没卖出去还有没有二次回拍的机会。

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post Feb 7 2025, 12:14
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魔光风价格比不过魔光雷的,只是一个j5而已,6m差不多
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post Feb 7 2025, 13:45
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QUOTE(123cmy321 @ Feb 7 2025, 15:45) *

好,我冲
60m了,不冲了,这根棍子好像跟之前说的那根差不多啊
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/285634470/9d21d72eb3
这还便宜不少


这把元素熟练更低,而且不是 500 级,需要魂绑使用,不能转手,就算更贵我也会选这周这把而不是选上面这把。
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post Feb 7 2025, 14:34
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打麵條都掉到 2.4T/s 了 Orz
最近的 HV 是不是都會卡住

說起來我的雷杖下個賽季也可以脫手掉,只要 IW 打完的話
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打麵條都掉到 2.4T/s 了 Orz
最近的 HV 是不是都會卡住

說起來我的雷杖下個賽季也可以脫手掉,只要 IW 打完的話


上個月換完伺服器以後速度開始越來越慢

alt 甚至還會有吃操作的情形出現
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