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post Nov 18 2024, 07:38
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QUOTE(Lady_Slayer @ Nov 18 2024, 13:25) *

毫无征兆被飞看看血量是不是1或者6结尾。最大HP除以5余1的话同时遭受五轮巨大伤害之后不会触发火花

14256 health points
还真的是 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
昨天有把AR快结束也是莫名其妙就飞了,应该是同样的原因

我去,那条裤子白买了,掉了个101%的M裤
Magnificent Phase Pants of Freyr

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post Nov 18 2024, 07:58
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圣法打IW不会很耗蓝吗?我ISK350级前基本竞技场必须用一次mana elixir
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post Nov 18 2024, 08:39
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圣法和元素法的打法有区别吗?我上了枯竭总感觉没啥用,枯竭需要上吗?

还有 异世界是不是只有捐赠者才能送物品啊 不是捐赠者没法参加拍卖是吧?
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post Nov 18 2024, 08:57
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QUOTE(nguzhr @ Nov 18 2024, 14:39) *

圣法和元素法的打法有区别吗?我上了枯竭总感觉没啥用,枯竭需要上吗?



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还有 异世界是不是只有捐赠者才能送物品啊 不是捐赠者没法参加拍卖是吧?


不要连贴,发文前看一下#1

drain在前期给缺乏回复手段的近战还算有点用,等转了法师就没什么用了
在异世界各种法师操作上几乎没有什么区别,都是上imp然后三个法术循环。
大的区别可能是圣法需要的熟练多一些,这一点暗法也一样。

异世界是只有捐赠者可以在MM里携带物品,因此只有捐赠者可以在拍卖上卖东西。但是任何人都可以买,
因为收MM没有限制。

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post Nov 18 2024, 10:49
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QUOTE(Lady_Slayer @ Nov 18 2024, 07:25) *

毫无征兆被飞看看血量是不是1或者6结尾。最大HP除以5余1的话同时遭受五轮巨大伤害之后不会触发火花

这么重要的事第一次听说啊,还有其他的秘诀传授吗?
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post Nov 18 2024, 11:27
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14256 health points
还真的是 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
昨天有把AR快结束也是莫名其妙就飞了,应该是同样的原因

我去,那条裤子白买了,掉了个101%的M裤
Magnificent Phase Pants of Freyr



QUOTE(Illinois5 @ Nov 18 2024, 16:49) *

这么重要的事第一次听说啊,还有其他的秘诀传授吗?


对没满级的玩家这条不是特别重要,不必专门调整,因为你每次升级 HP 量都会提升。
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post Nov 18 2024, 13:14
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今天回家上线突然发现浏览器帮我缓存了一次遭遇战,打完一次过两分钟就打了第二次,不知道是组标签页特性还
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post Nov 18 2024, 14:25
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QUOTE(tjjyuki @ Nov 17 2024, 10:21) *

根据我的经验给你大概估算一下
3低roll魔光 20-40M,2中高roll熟练(头/手/鞋)5-10M,中roll法杖5-10M
装备要30-60M,上下限差距会很大,看你取舍
是买好一点点的装备强化慢慢来,还是装备买差的留预算用于强化
顺便打个广告,我签名档里的法杖和熟练帽换新了,感兴趣可以原价折一点卖你


QUOTE(chjj30 @ Nov 17 2024, 15:46) *

你的诉求是竞技场加无 IMP ,那圣法加魔光是最合适的,不是可不可以的问题,这是最优解了。


QUOTE(Lady_Slayer @ Nov 17 2024, 16:43) *

法杖选MDB和EDB都在25以上但是尽可能好,同时三大件选垃圾roll的魔光的话80M应该绰绰有余(甚至足够你除pab以外 50锻)
但是攻击力不高的前提下在AR不对女高放imp的话体验可能并不会比imp法好太多


謝謝各位的建議與經驗分享,我應該會挑roll好一點的,鍛造之後再慢慢弄
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post Nov 18 2024, 14:38
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沒趕上新一季的isk T口T
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post Nov 18 2024, 14:55
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盾化重甲的格挡率原来不是加算吗
换掉才发现掉的根本没那么多
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post Nov 18 2024, 15:59
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好像很多装备奖励是乘算的
同时装备格挡50%的盾和6%格挡的重甲,总和是 1 - (1-50%)*(1-6%) = 53%
穿第二件6%格挡是 1 - (1-50%)*(1-6%)*(1-6%) = 55.82%
后面提升会越来越低,不过就算穿5件乘算6次,生存能力还是线性增长的
第一件6%折算成3%,53%格挡相比50%格挡提升了6.38%生存能力
第二件6%折算成2.82%,55.82%格挡相比53%依然提升了6.38%生存能力

突然想起还有个反格挡设定,那应该不是线性的,会缓慢下降,感觉还是50%格挡性价比最高

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post Nov 18 2024, 16:09
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所有的防御类,抗性,格挡率,招架还有抵抗全部都是乘算。堆叠的项目越多收益就越低。

isk前期如果使用垃圾圆盾配一套盾甲是可以把格挡堆到50的,但是这样依然不如中期的炮甲+20锻左右的M盾格挡高。


异世界盾甲配双持似乎可以达到账面上跟炮甲盾战类似的防御力(50 格挡 20招架 vs 20格挡 50招架)
不过我不太喜欢这么玩,因为速度还是不如我的炮甲盾战
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post Nov 19 2024, 01:07
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异世界转法打了几天,在60~70层那种低级AR里打起来非常顺畅,感觉我已经毕业了
后来在调设置的时候看了一下,妈的,原来我一直打的x1难度
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post Nov 19 2024, 01:20
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QUOTE(WTF联合银行 @ Nov 18 2024, 18:07) *

异世界转法打了几天,在60~70层那种低级AR里打起来非常顺畅,感觉我已经毕业了
后来在调设置的时候看了一下,妈的,原来我一直打的x1难度

我也感觉我毕业了
[ibb.co] https://ibb.co/4WL0DMV
65 75要上卷轴.80 90后面有点危险.85最轻松
甚至强化最高就50
现在每天就40分钟不到就花完24体力了

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post Nov 19 2024, 03:23
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QUOTE(ericeric91 @ Nov 18 2024, 13:17) *

脅差跟盾能有戰法師後綴最好,但不強求
我手上有低等級雷脅差,有需要的話可以借你

我玩的是风法,就不需要雷的了
我听到的说法是用招架和格挡

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post Nov 19 2024, 03:35
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嗯,完了

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post Nov 19 2024, 04:16
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我玩的是风法,就不需要雷的了
我听到的说法是用招架和格挡

之前看堡垒大佬研究过,最佳搭配好像是战法师脇差+格挡圆盾,但那是下GF的
IW生存压力没那么大,双战法师可以有效补充魔法命中率和降低魔力消耗
(双战法师给的魔法命中率差不多等于法杖给的魔法命中率)
至于魔力消耗,招架+格挡是绝对要喝大蓝药才能保证蓝量续航的

不过IW我这套风法打过几次也没被飞出去(装备的IW全是我自己打的),难度也没想的那么高的
我倒是备了一套战法,是准备换装备时过渡用的

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post Nov 19 2024, 04:17
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QUOTE(houzw @ Nov 18 2024, 19:04) *

我今早也遇到这个问题了,用账号密码登录就行

哦不是,是我的ig代码改变了,变得更长了,是换了一种算法吗
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post Nov 19 2024, 09:27
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QUOTE(剑行血间 @ Nov 18 2024, 21:59) *

好像很多装备奖励是乘算的
同时装备格挡50%的盾和6%格挡的重甲,总和是 1 - (1-50%)*(1-6%) = 53%
穿第二件6%格挡是 1 - (1-50%)*(1-6%)*(1-6%) = 55.82%
后面提升会越来越低,不过就算穿5件乘算6次,生存能力还是线性增长的
第一件6%折算成3%,53%格挡相比50%格挡提升了6.38%生存能力
第二件6%折算成2.82%,55.82%格挡相比53%依然提升了6.38%生存能力

突然想起还有个反格挡设定,那应该不是线性的,会缓慢下降,感觉还是50%格挡性价比最高


但看数值和性能,盾化在防具前缀里已经是最强那一档了,一个前缀给的是别的防具后缀的数值。
它现在少人关心只是因为它只能出现在板甲上,但凡它能出现在相位上,什么魔光加速一边去。
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post Nov 19 2024, 12:59
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有一个perk是staff副手可以持盾
多少hath合适
那加速肯定没什么意义,魔光上天

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