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post Apr 13 2024, 16:02
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QUOTE(sasasang @ Apr 13 2024, 21:51) *

给管理员的mm和pm都发了一次求bidkey的消息,不过到现在到现在还没收到回复

各位大佬怎么界定装备的中高低roll有没有一个阈值(界限)
光头80edb的裤子和魔光57edb的裤子,孰强孰弱

对名同前缀的都是roll越高越好。
元素、暗的充能和魔光前缀都是对名词条。圣比较特殊。
没有这两个词条的叫做光头,跟对名词条没有可比性。
魔光和充能的比较取决于你选择的方向。
魔光能直接提升输出,加速通关。
充能加强防御面,提高高难度如iw和GF的生存能力。

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post Apr 13 2024, 16:09
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QUOTE(sasasang @ Apr 13 2024, 21:51) *

给管理员的mm和pm都发了一次求bidkey的消息,不过到现在到现在还没收到回复

各位大佬怎么界定装备的中高低roll有没有一个阈值(界限)
光头80edb的裤子和魔光57edb的裤子,孰强孰弱


我个人对低roll的定义:legendary0-25% 因这部分的数值与 magnificent 85-100%重合
中roll就是 legendary 50%,高roll就是超过50%

某些特定的法师对于熟练度有极高的要求,但是至于MDB和EDB就是越高越好,低了也不是不能用。

Edit:光头肯定是不如魔光的。因为光头的攻击力加成是0 因此如果缺一个部件的魔光,用m魔光临时代替也是常见的操作。

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post Apr 13 2024, 16:58
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QUOTE(sasasang @ Apr 13 2024, 21:51) *

给管理员的mm和pm都发了一次求bidkey的消息,不过到现在到现在还没收到回复

各位大佬怎么界定装备的中高低roll有没有一个阈值(界限)
光头80edb的裤子和魔光57edb的裤子,孰强孰弱

我一开始也发了两周,后来我直接标题这样写
bidkey bidkey bidkey bidkey bidkey bidkey bidkey bidkey bidkey bidkey bidkey bidkey bidkey bidkey bidkey bidkey
够长够高调他才会看得到
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post Apr 13 2024, 18:04
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纯打AR感觉精力溢出了,又不想碰GF,要不帮不着急的新手法师IW装备吧
我决定了!我要打GF看看

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post Apr 13 2024, 18:35
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QUOTE(sasasang @ Apr 13 2024, 15:51) *

各位大佬怎么界定装备的中高低roll有没有一个阈值(界限)
光头80edb的裤子和魔光57edb的裤子,孰强孰弱

90%+,80%+,70%+各有其價,但50%-基本都是一回事,可以認定50%-屬於低roll
只看攻擊面大致成立光頭100% = 神秘60% = 魔光20%,非毀滅棍的魔光會比毀滅棍的更強一些
(這並不代表P光頭 = 魔光20%,因為前者防禦面要強得多


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纯打AR感觉精力溢出了,又不想碰GF,要不帮不着急的新手法师IW装备吧
我决定了!我要打GF看看

打!
(記得開卷軸欄位和elixir欄位

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post Apr 13 2024, 18:58
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QUOTE(sharmy @ Apr 14 2024, 00:35) *

只看攻擊面大致成立光頭100% = 神秘60% = 魔光20%


citation?
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post Apr 13 2024, 19:54
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citation?


QUOTE(Nezu @ Mar 1 2021, 03:51) *

Prefixes

For raw damage, the hierarchy is radiant > mystic > other prefixes. On paper, peerless 'other' prefixes are roughly equivalent to a mystic piece with 65% average rolls, or a radiant with 25% average rolls. Raw damage tends to be the best choice for easy content regardless of element, as long as you can survive it.

The 'charged' prefix increases cast speed, and as such, it is the only defensive prefix for mage. New players should consider this, and charged generally performs better (significantly fewer cures) than radiant in grindfest for imperil players. An endgame imperil player may mix charged/radiants for slightly better performance. However arenas are fairly easily survivable so if you have the budget to forge some equipment, you do not need to rely on cast speed, and can jump to using radiants ASAP.
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post Apr 13 2024, 20:34
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我大概是没有资源去验证nezu说过的话了。

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手上的几根验证用棍子我还得给他们打IW,慢慢来吧
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post Apr 13 2024, 20:56
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QUOTE(Lady_Slayer @ Apr 13 2024, 06:12) *

Ability 换了吗?战士跟法师用的不同页面的天赋。法师有部分MDB来自staff prof,天赋没换会少很多攻击力的

你的杖可以再敲敲。如果材料实在不够的话先把法杖的MDB敲到50.
强化最优先的就是法杖的MDB EDB 和 元素熟练,其他的不要管。
我一开始看你只有1700 魔攻还以为你玩的战法,但是你法师要是玩成这样还不如去玩战士
法杖的P5很重要。可以没别的,但是不能没P5。魂绑装只能自己敲IW,前5级没P5就洗掉吧。。
最后:你还没有穿熟练鞋的资格,即便你每天都在刷,熟练裤你也要至少穿两年的。先去找一个光头熟练裤,然后
把鞋子换相位。
前期找不到装备就去看M或者L的光头。再次的品质就没有必要看了,都是自动卖系统店的东西。
如果WTS找不着,就去WTB喊一喊,总会有人愿意卖给你的。

我魔攻3300.没放过1700相关的东西。
应该是大佬记错了。
有c肯定敲敲
PGC现在稳定4000t。
虽然在大佬眼里很差,但是还是比战士好多了
我自己就是打算熟练手或者裤的。这个就只能等拍卖了

如果有了帽子,应该能提升百分20左右的伤害,提到3200T吧

QUOTE(shiluo @ Apr 13 2024, 06:39) *

龙场过了,多谢各位给的指导

有个不算是问题的疑问,MD药的价格是如何维持住现在这个水平的?
像SD药的价格接近商店售价*0.9很容易理解
但是MD药第一它具备基础性,即任何人都要用到,交易量足够;
第二它的商店售价很高,很难靠商店补货;
第三它的产量不像HD药那样高,容易达成阶段性供应不足;
假如来了一个地精把3c及以下的全收了,提价到4c就是33%的利润,4.5c就是50%的利润
如何防范这种市场风险,全靠无形的手吗? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

这游戏有tick这个时间单位。一个draught持续50tick。
而50tick法师能动100-150下了
所以draught消耗很小

QUOTE(sasasang @ Apr 13 2024, 09:51) *

给管理员的mm和pm都发了一次求bidkey的消息,不过到现在到现在还没收到回复

各位大佬怎么界定装备的中高低roll有没有一个阈值(界限)
光头80edb的裤子和魔光57edb的裤子,孰强孰弱

原来是你小子
他老人家一般要一周回复

我个人觉得高roll溢价很多的
如果那个属性的收益是线性收益,roll差的和好的有些属性差距也往往不会太大
装备属性等于
Scaled Stat = (1 + level / level_factor) * 基础属性
factor越大的,最后差距就越小
比如EDB。范围0%和100%差距为2.
满级两者差距5,满锻*1.35=6.75.更别说新手不会锻phase
都买中roll的话,伤害低了大概百分5不到(这就不是我们新手要介意的事了)

像是幂收益的熟练度,就影响非常大

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post Apr 14 2024, 02:06
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我魔攻3300.没放过1700相关的东西。


对,我看差了。你是物攻1700..我经常会把物攻看成魔攻,就因为它正好在流派的最下边
满级的光头法师使用非D杖是4000魔攻,使用D杖并且敲满是4750
理论上不应该差那么多。你确定STAFF相关的ability都装上了?那个玩意每点熟练+0.5MDB

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对,我看差了。你是物攻1700..我经常会把物攻看成魔攻,就因为它正好在流派的最下边
满级的光头法师使用非D杖是4000魔攻,使用D杖并且敲满是4750
理论上不应该差那么多。你确定STAFF相关的ability都装上了?那个玩意每点熟练+0.5MDB

都点了,除了最后一个加ADB的。
满级属性上还能增加300左右的魔攻吧
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QUOTE(1235789gzy1 @ Apr 14 2024, 00:04) *

纯打AR感觉精力溢出了,又不想碰GF,要不帮不着急的新手法师IW装备吧
我决定了!我要打GF看看

等等, 原来完美回答小马图的话,每天AR全清的875 round花费不到24点精力吗
我现在虽然没红色惩罚, 但还是处于0.038的状态
(875*0.03=26.25)

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目前法杖锻造到我的锻造等级上限了, 除掉升级换成准备好的4+1熟练袍之外
感觉最直观最划算的提升应该是5.6M的DD1环, 所以全力屯钱了(

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是50 TURN 不是 50 tick
所有状态栏里的时间计数单位都是 TURN
CD的计数单位也是 TURN
包括你的刷速 4xxxt 2.00t/s 也是 turn per second

任何玩家的操作都记作1turn。如果你动了150下,那么就消耗150turn。150turn对应3次draught或者1.5次elixir。

如果你搞不清楚什么是tick,可以看看wiki: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Action_Speed/Chinese

顺便如果开局一直在使用道具,然后出手一击秒杀的话状态栏里会只显示消耗1turn,但是hvut会记录吃药所花费的tur
n数。因为吃药的动作是0tick。

并不是。buff类按tick
cd按turn算(虽然他说也按tick算,但是实战是1动就减少1t cd)
不然我4000tPGC就要用掉80蓝药了
经常三次操作才回一次蓝
你可以注意一下,你施法几次那个buff计数减少1

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citation?

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) 壁壘已經寫了
sad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) 總mdb越低的情況魔光的加成越大,
戰法mdb基本不破3000,M魔光都要優先穿
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我装备也有点弱了, 90AR要3000T, 但还是比单手盾战快

魔光MDB跟EDB这类全加成的收益很好算(问题是买不起)
5.6M的DD1跟11M的DD2, 这两个哪个都顶一身魔光了还更便宜, 所以DD2之前准备魔光毕业套感觉就是过度消费

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話說我前天突然精力變紅,今天回復正常,
所以要擺脫精力懲罰狀態也用不了多久吧。

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纯打AR感觉精力溢出了,又不想碰GF,要不帮不着急的新手法师IW装备吧
我决定了!我要打GF看看
要出来了
怎么发不出去?
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