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post Oct 25 2023, 16:49
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QUOTE(幻影游侠 @ Oct 25 2023, 16:21) *


头一次在游戏里见到粤语,想起这里之前那个粤语老哥,看他的回复一半能懂一半不懂 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



就算自己系广州佬,粤语文字如果没有太多粤语口语词,才可以看明白。

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话说, 哪位可以帮忙发个 Secret Pony Level 最后打那 9 个新BOSS时进场的战斗记录吗?
显示那 9 个新BOSS血量的开局第一回合文字。

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大概应该是像这样的
Spawned Monster B: MID=261394 (Gummy) LV=500 HP=XXXXXXX
Spawned Monster A: MID=154404 (Fluttershy) LV=500 HP=XXXXXXXX
Initializing arena challenge #35 (Round 100 / 100) ...


我看看它们有多少血 , 是否可以用现在手上的装备在一轮 debuff 消失前打完。

能一轮 debuff 消失前打完就当成是现有装备可以当作毕业装,不再存材料升级了。

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post Oct 25 2023, 17:19
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QUOTE(peter723pan @ Oct 25 2023, 22:49) *

就算自己系广州佬,粤语文字如果没有太多粤语口语词,才可以看明白。

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话说, 哪位可以帮忙发个 Secret Pony Level 最后打那 9 个新BOSS时进场的战斗记录吗?
显示那 9 个新BOSS血量的开局第一回合文字。
我看看它们有多少血 , 是否可以用现在手上的装备在一轮 debuff 消失前打完。

能一轮 debuff 消失前打完就当成是现有装备可以当作毕业装,不再存材料升级了。

Spawned Monster I: MID=261394 (Gummy) LV=500 HP=5589060
Spawned Monster H: MID=261398 (Applejack) LV=500 HP=7877060
Spawned Monster G: MID=261400 (Angel Bunny) LV=500 HP=4653060
Spawned Monster F: MID=154404 (Fluttershy) LV=500 HP=5225060
Spawned Monster E: MID=261397 (Rarity) LV=500 HP=5225060
Spawned Monster D: MID=261395 (Rainbow Dash) LV=500 HP=5225060
Spawned Monster C: MID=261793 (Spike) LV=500 HP=5953060
Spawned Monster B: MID=261396 (Twilight Sparkle) LV=500 HP=5225060
Spawned Monster A: MID=261399 (Pinkie Pie) LV=500 HP=5225060
Initializing arena challenge #35 (Round 100 / 100) ...

還沒高鍛造,還是得開卷軸的
即使高鍛造了,不上 weaken 等 debuff 還是在玩命
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post Oct 25 2023, 18:11
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QUOTE(peter723pan @ Oct 25 2023, 08:49) *

能一轮 debuff 消失前打完就当成是现有装备可以当作毕业装,不再存材料升级了。


主要还是跟攻击力有关系,我的满锻造圣和半满锻造风都可以在imp结束之前打通关,但是如果只有攻1没有异世界 加成的话就不清楚了

如果锻造成本比开下一级攻击环要高的话开攻击环也算是不错的考量,毕竟锻造成本是线性增加,但是每级的收益
都是指数型减少。

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post Oct 25 2023, 19:07
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QUOTE(ericeric91 @ Oct 25 2023, 17:19) *

Spawned Monster I: MID=261394 (Gummy) LV=500 HP=5589060
Spawned Monster H: MID=261398 (Applejack) LV=500 HP=7877060
Spawned Monster G: MID=261400 (Angel Bunny) LV=500 HP=4653060
Spawned Monster F: MID=154404 (Fluttershy) LV=500 HP=5225060
Spawned Monster E: MID=261397 (Rarity) LV=500 HP=5225060
Spawned Monster D: MID=261395 (Rainbow Dash) LV=500 HP=5225060
Spawned Monster C: MID=261793 (Spike) LV=500 HP=5953060
Spawned Monster B: MID=261396 (Twilight Sparkle) LV=500 HP=5225060
Spawned Monster A: MID=261399 (Pinkie Pie) LV=500 HP=5225060
Initializing arena challenge #35 (Round 100 / 100) ...

還沒高鍛造,還是得開卷軸的
即使高鍛造了,不上 weaken 等 debuff 還是在玩命


十分感谢提供数据
看来只有一个 Applejack 血量比较多
Spawned Monster H: MID=261398 (Applejack) LV=500 HP=7877060

估计是比同级的 Drogon 血多, 其他场的比较要等明天竞技场重置后, 能进场看才知道。

Applejack这血量在 500级 打起来, 你感觉是会像以下哪种?
Drogon 血较少
Post Game Content 6个里有2个血多的 血较多
Flying Spaghetti Monster 不用圣系打的时候 血特别多

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post Oct 26 2023, 00:11
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十分感谢提供数据
看来只有一个 Applejack 血量比较多
Spawned Monster H: MID=261398 (Applejack) LV=500 HP=7877060

估计是比同级的 Drogon 血多, 其他场的比较要等明天竞技场重置后, 能进场看才知道。

Applejack这血量在 500级 打起来, 你感觉是会像以下哪种?
Drogon 血较少
Post Game Content 6个里有2个血多的 血较多
Flying Spaghetti Monster 不用圣系打的时候 血特别多


龙根本就没什么伤害,上了魔磁网和 IMP 以后随便打。
面条上了沉默以后也没什么伤害,魔磁网 IMP 以后随便打。
但是马场的终层不一样,上了沉默加虚弱依然随随便便就能把 HP 和 SP 都打下去,我自己都是两个龙吼稳扎稳打。

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顺便截个 500 级面条,有一千万血。

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post Oct 26 2023, 01:36
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Flying Spaghetti Monster 不用圣系打的时候 血特别多

麵條有超凡脫俗的95抗性(聖除外),1.0熟+imp都counter不完,等血量下比正常的75抗怪硬
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post Oct 26 2023, 02:36
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post Oct 26 2023, 03:35
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最近天際線 2 的一些抱怨還挺好笑的,是在抱怨公共設施都不賺錢、維護費超高 XD

說起來龍打不痛不過抵抗好像特別高,印象中是 90%?
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post Oct 26 2023, 06:13
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我总觉得打龙特别快来着。面条也特别快,主要是他们伤害都非常不明显,鼠标放在它们头上十几秒就没了。马场
十个boss各种debuff丢完还要不停补血补sp不然还有概率被飞(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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This is a paradox game, meaning that buying new will only spoil the experience you'll have when they actually finish developing the game. Give them a year or two to fix the game, release a few DLCs that should have been included at launch, and only then pick it up at a sale price.
Just play the original until then. You'll be a happier person.

天际线1我买来但是没玩太久,第二部是不是很糟糕?

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post Oct 26 2023, 07:16
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我总觉得打龙特别快来着。面条也特别快,主要是他们伤害都非常不明显,鼠标放在它们头上十几秒就没了。马场
十个boss各种debuff丢完还要不停补血补sp不然还有概率被飞(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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我在steam上看到了一则天际线2的review

天际线1我买来但是没玩太久,第二部是不是很糟糕?

第一, Unity 原罪,效能不會太好
第二,預設畫質不知道發甚麼神經全部預設最高
第三,全物件獨立處理,導致效能吃重

不過排除畫質設定問題,其實進步很大而且有趣很多
很多一代跟 mod 的功能直接內建了
真實度有比較高,所以大型建築比一代大很多
公共政策跟建築也就不像一代那樣隨便弄都不會虧錢

一代是做大眾運輸跟公眾設施還能賺大錢 XD
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post Oct 26 2023, 07:58
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Oct 26 2023, 00:11) *

龙根本就没什么伤害,上了魔磁网和 IMP 以后随便打。
面条上了沉默以后也没什么伤害,魔磁网 IMP 以后随便打。
但是马场的终层不一样,上了沉默加虚弱依然随随便便就能把 HP 和 SP 都打下去,我自己都是两个龙吼稳扎稳打。

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顺便截个 500 级面条,有一千万血。



一次龙吼就可以了, 6个怪一次专注就 抵抗率归 0 了。

开局 , 龙吼 , 专注(就是按 F 那个 Focus) , 上半 MagNet 下半 Sleep ,
上半 Silence Blind Weaken Imperil , 然后我是圣暗,等第2个MagNet 时用没强化过的 Smite 打上半,
上了圣DOT 就用 Drain 吸魔。
如果没圣系DOT的吸魔, 开局上半 debuff 后用任意没强化范围的 T1 (只能打3个目标的) 打上半混回合。
(其实只要混一个回合,Blind 冷却后就可以下半debuff了)
再对下半3个上 Blind Weaken Imperil Silence MagNet.
接着随便打了, 用 Drain 吸魔的次数算时长,
Post Game Content 3 次吸魔后完结, 第一轮debuff没消失,不需要补第二轮debuff。
不过, 我只有 Ability 里 HP tank 60% 加血, 如果连续3个回合被超过3个BOSS打中,还是要 Cure 一下。

Drogon 2次吸魔后完结,
Flying Spaghetti Monster 专门把闲置的光头圣装换上去打纯圣 Strongest 循环, 也能 2次吸魔后完结


多谢提供 500级 的数据 , 可以截个500级的 Post Game Content 6BOSS 看看吗?
好像 Applejack 也就只是 Bottomless Dungeon 或 Recycled Boss Rush 的程度。
不过 6 BOSS 就算全上 debuff 还是要注意自己血量 , 9 BOSS 就更多多需要 Cure 了,
估计Secret Pony Level 其他方面应该没什么需要注意的。

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post Oct 26 2023, 16:57
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哎呀卧槽,终于出了p5,虽然是个辣鸡 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


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棍子上沒4s估計強了衣服gf也有點困難

ar的話強不強衣服無所謂,想搞就搞

好的,我ar摆烂


随便强了一下单手武器,然后没多少c了,就这样吧

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一次龙吼就可以了, 6个怪一次专注就 抵抗率归 0 了。

开局 , 龙吼 , 专注(就是按 F 那个 Focus) , 上半 MagNet 下半 Sleep ,
上半 Silence Blind Weaken Imperil , 然后我是圣暗,等第2个MagNet 时用没强化过的 Smite 打上半,
上了圣DOT 就用 Drain 吸魔。
如果没圣系DOT的吸魔, 开局上半 debuff 后用任意没强化范围的 T1 (只能打3个目标的) 打上半混回合。
(其实只要混一个回合,Blind 冷却后就可以下半debuff了)
再对下半3个上 Blind Weaken Imperil Silence MagNet.
接着随便打了, 用 Drain 吸魔的次数算时长,
Post Game Content 3 次吸魔后完结, 第一轮debuff没消失,不需要补第二轮debuff。
不过, 我只有 Ability 里 HP tank 60% 加血, 如果连续3个回合被超过3个BOSS打中,还是要 Cure 一下。

Drogon 2次吸魔后完结,
Flying Spaghetti Monster 专门把闲置的光头圣装换上去打纯圣 Strongest 循环, 也能 2次吸魔后完结
多谢提供 500级 的数据 , 可以截个500级的 Post Game Content 6BOSS 看看吗?
好像 Applejack 也就只是 Bottomless Dungeon 或 Recycled Boss Rush 的程度。
不过 6 BOSS 就算全上 debuff 还是要注意自己血量 , 9 BOSS 就更多多需要 Cure 了,
估计Secret Pony Level 其他方面应该没什么需要注意的。


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哎呀卧槽,终于出了p5,虽然是个辣鸡 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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只要你觉得伤害够了,生存压力没那么大那就差不多可以不敲了。
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QUOTE(--一虹-- @ Oct 26 2023, 16:57) *

哎呀卧槽,终于出了p5,虽然是个辣鸡 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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棍子上沒4s估計強了衣服gf也有點困難

ar的話強不強衣服無所謂,想搞就搞

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有鍛造就會比較輕鬆

有些是戰鬥技巧跟判斷的問題,同樣滿鍛造 pf 一樣,戰鬥判斷改變就可能變好打
GF 就算全光頭滿鍛造也能過,但是消耗不同
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打大boss果然还是得放magnet。今天打dwd终场给drogon放了magnet,终于把t数压缩到1100左右了。或许我也有机会dwd进1000t?
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打大boss果然还是得放magnet。今天打dwd终场给drogon放了magnet,终于把t数压缩到1100左右了。或许我也有机会dwd进1000t?


那火力得再加10%
(考慮到這階段imp的T數開銷已經很大的,或許需求還不止10%?)
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