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post Sep 26 2023, 22:50
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post Sep 27 2023, 00:48
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看到異世界給我打錢了,終於要版本更新了嘛。。。

QUOTE(Fate Prototype @ Sep 25 2023, 17:31) *

本质上是芥见下下能力不够,驾驭不住故事和角色的发展。

QUOTE(千叶的琉璃殿下 @ Sep 26 2023, 15:56) *

是这样的,从五条悟的登场到他的退场,彻彻底底把这个开篇逼格十足的无敌角色变成了不折不扣的小丑。

是的,一出場就是天花板,人物沒有成長弧綫,劇本不好寫下去。

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post Sep 27 2023, 01:25
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QUOTE(susancat @ Sep 26 2023, 22:48) *

看到異世界給我打錢了,終於要版本更新了嘛。。。


新赛季的 early bird 是23号-30号。已经过去一半咯。 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Sep 27 2023, 02:34
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QUOTE(千叶的琉璃殿下 @ Sep 27 2023, 03:56) *

是这样的,从五条悟的登场到他的退场,彻彻底底把这个开篇逼格十足的无敌角色变成了不折不扣的小丑。
…………
从236往前回顾了一番,发现失败二字贯穿了5t5的一生。
保护别人,被保护人死亡。
亲手杀了友人,让脑花侵占了他的身体。
开篇去买伴手礼,导致了虎杖不得不吞下宿傩的手指。
七海的死,后续的一系列时间,都有他的影子……



五条悟人气高,除了动画组画得帅,还有一点就是作为故事战斗力天花板,他之前的一切到处浪的行为都能被解释
为“绝对的强者拥有着绝对的自信,同时有绝对的能力去兜底任何意外情况”,所以他的吊儿郎当到处浪的性格算
是特色之一,也收获了很多粉丝。
但236话不明不白地、非常粗糙与突兀地去世,甚至还说出敌人还没使出全力他就死了,导致他之前的一切到处浪的
行为瞬间变成回旋镖扎到自己,妥妥地成了一个小丑。


QUOTE(susancat @ Sep 27 2023, 06:48) *

是的,一出場就是天花板,人物沒有成長弧綫,劇本不好寫下去。

其实五条悟作为一个配角,没有成长弧线都是能接受的。
但他作为主角方阵营的配角实在太过耀眼了,故事情节的推动靠他一个人就行,什么事情都有他来兜底处理,那么
虎杖悠仁作为主角的意义何在?
所以他必须被封号。
隔壁的一拳超人,琦玉自己就是主角,所以他设定为战斗力无敌是可以的,但作为配角就是不行。
所以我的英雄学院的欧尔麦特能力全消失了,re0的莱茵哈鲁特则是被一大堆法律条文给禁锢在国内不能出境。
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post Sep 27 2023, 03:13
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请问大家 异世界 体力消耗 是主世界的双倍吗?
打一次竞技场The Trio and the Tree 要5-6体力 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Sep 27 2023, 03:29
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精力消耗與樓層平均經驗

精力每日回復量=24
主世界精力消耗->60以上每層0.03,59以下每層0.02
24/0.03=800
24/0.02=1200

異世界精力消耗->60以上每層0.06,59以下每層0.04
24/0.06=400
24/0.04=600
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post Sep 27 2023, 04:00
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QUOTE(Fate Prototype @ Sep 26 2023, 20:34) *

五条悟人气高,除了动画组画得帅,还有一点就是作为故事战斗力天花板,他之前的一切到处浪的行为都能被解释
为“绝对的强者拥有着绝对的自信,同时有绝对的能力去兜底任何意外情况”,所以他的吊儿郎当到处浪的性格算
是特色之一,也收获了很多粉丝。
但236话不明不白地、非常粗糙与突兀地去世,甚至还说出敌人还没使出全力他就死了,导致他之前的一切到处浪的
行为瞬间变成回旋镖扎到自己,妥妥地成了一个小丑。
其实五条悟作为一个配角,没有成长弧线都是能接受的。
但他作为主角方阵营的配角实在太过耀眼了,故事情节的推动靠他一个人就行,什么事情都有他来兜底处理,那么
虎杖悠仁作为主角的意义何在?
所以他必须被封号。
隔壁的一拳超人,琦玉自己就是主角,所以他设定为战斗力无敌是可以的,但作为配角就是不行。
所以我的英雄学院的欧尔麦特能力全消失了,re0的莱茵哈鲁特则是被一大堆法律条文给禁锢在国内不能出境。

看現在觀衆的反應可能過幾話就會復活的。
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post Sep 27 2023, 04:26
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QUOTE(hc br @ Sep 27 2023, 03:29) *

精力消耗與樓層平均經驗



哦 谢谢大佬的解疑

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post Sep 27 2023, 07:52
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早鳥打到現在,全身只有一件 M 板甲,其他都是 exq 跟 sup 品質 orz
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post Sep 27 2023, 07:59
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QUOTE(ericeric91 @ Sep 27 2023, 13:52) *

早鳥打到現在,全身只有一件 M 板甲,其他都是 exq 跟 sup 品質 orz

我的盾都还是super的
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就一件L板甲,从150级一直穿到了240级都没有能换的,剩下的全是ex板甲……
掉落之悲催让我怀疑自己打的是不是pf (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) 难道是我前几季运气太好了?
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post Sep 27 2023, 10:05
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QUOTE(jy-laji @ Sep 27 2023, 13:59) *

我的盾都还是super的
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就一件L板甲,从150级一直穿到了240级都没有能换的,剩下的全是ex板甲……
掉落之悲催让我怀疑自己打的是不是pf (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) 难道是我前几季运气太好了?

我的武器是 exq 殺戮協差
盾牌是 exq Kite
我現在 222,第一天是快結束才發現 isk 刷新 XD

上一季一兩百多等打到 L 西洋真的爽過頭了

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post Sep 27 2023, 12:06
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异界交易区有好盾,需要的人可以去买,我问了,要5m放弃了

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post Sep 27 2023, 15:17
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QUOTE(--一虹-- @ Sep 27 2023, 18:06) *

异界交易区有好盾,需要的人可以去买,我问了,要5m放弃了


其實盾是最不用擔心的裝備,

簡單的說就是把打到的盃集中拿去開盾就成了,

對打過很多次的老屁股們來說,

盾不用頂,有個基礎35%+就很夠用了
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post Sep 27 2023, 15:51
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到目前為止ISK還沒出過L...
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post Sep 27 2023, 16:04
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到目前為止ISK還沒出過L...


可以問一下打啥難度嗎?

我100等開始打*15,

200等打*20,

打到現在應該是總共出了7件L,


[LV238] Legendary Onyx Phase Gloves of Surtr (238, EDB 58%, Evd 81%)
[LV240] Legendary Zircon Leather Helmet of Warding (240)
[LV172] Legendary Ruby Leather Leggings of Warding (172)
[LV170] Legendary Cobalt Shade Helmet of Negation (170, Evd 15%, ADB 32%)
[LV227] Legendary Cobalt Leather Leggings of Stoneskin (227)
[LV242] Legendary Shielding Plate Helmet of Dampening (242, BLK 70%, PMit 6%, MMit 8%)
[LV213] Legendary Zircon Plate Cuirass of Stoneskin (213, PMit 86%, MMit 27%)


開盃開了1件L,

拆了 https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/180513/498b7ad94b

現在252等

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post Sep 27 2023, 16:21
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QUOTE(hc br @ Sep 27 2023, 16:04) *

可以問一下打啥難度嗎?

我100等開始打*15,

200等打*20,

打到現在應該是總共出了7件L,
[LV238] Legendary Onyx Phase Gloves of Surtr (238, EDB 58%, Evd 81%)
[LV240] Legendary Zircon Leather Helmet of Warding (240)
[LV172] Legendary Ruby Leather Leggings of Warding (172)
[LV170] Legendary Cobalt Shade Helmet of Negation (170, Evd 15%, ADB 32%)
[LV227] Legendary Cobalt Leather Leggings of Stoneskin (227)
[LV242] Legendary Shielding Plate Helmet of Dampening (242, BLK 70%, PMit 6%, MMit 8%)
[LV213] Legendary Zircon Plate Cuirass of Stoneskin (213, PMit 86%, MMit 27%)
開盃開了1件L,

拆了 https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/180513/498b7ad94b

現在252等


218級 主要x10 前幾關會調x15

掉啦 223級
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刷IW 直接overpower 4 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

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另外想問一下infusion相關的問題

有限制最多同時幾種infusion在同一把武器上生效嗎?

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post Sep 27 2023, 18:01
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QUOTE(hc br @ Sep 27 2023, 15:17) *

對打過很多次的老屁股們來說,

盾不用頂,有個基礎35%+就很夠用了

250之后轻松很多,最难的是200级之后那一段,虚弱没满,格挡无技能加成,全靠沉睡了 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Sep 27 2023, 18:19
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QUOTE(Amffqfbs @ Sep 27 2023, 22:21) *

218級 主要x10 前幾關會調x15

掉啦 223級
Legendary Demonic Mace of the Battlecaster
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刷IW 直接overpower 4 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

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另外想問一下infusion相關的問題

有限制最多同時幾種infusion在同一把武器上生效嗎?

同一時間最多2種Infusion
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post Sep 28 2023, 02:30
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同一時間最多2種Infusion

了解,感謝你

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post Sep 28 2023, 02:43
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(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) 终于掉了一个能用的盾了……虽然没多好,至少比之前的好多了……
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