Did you try melatonin like I suggested? It works for me. You just need to take it early enough; 30 minutes before bed doesn't work in my experience. I take 250 mcg around 1800 - 1830, and by 2100 - 2200 it actually feels like bedtime. You also need to get up in the morning to complete setting the new circadian rhythm, not lie in bed for hours after you wake up.
That's way earlier than I expected. Does it take 2-3 hours to work? I think I tried it 60mins before last time and didn't notice much but that might be why.
Staying up late, I don't want to spend so much time sleeping.
Yeah, keep trying that shit. You'll find yourself to be tired and miserable and have an overall worse experience than if you just slept as much as you need to.
That's way earlier than I expected. Does it take 2-3 hours to work? I think I tried it 60mins before last time and didn't notice much but that might be why.
This is a pretty good short video on it:
The Dim-Light Melatonin Onset (DLMO) is several hours before you feel like sleeping. If you're trying to simulate that with exogenous melatonin, you need to take it several hours early.
The normal amount of melatonin that the human body produces over the course of one day is about 300 micrograms. At those levels, it doesn't have a directly sedative effect like depressant drugs, it just acts as one of several signals ([en.wikipedia.org] zeitgebers) which adjust and maintain the timing of your internal circadian mechanism.
There is a [en.wikipedia.org] phase response curve for taking melatonin. It causes the maximum advance of the circadian rhythm when taken about 4-6 hours before the normal DLMO, and causes phase delay instead (your circadian rhythm shifts later) if taken too late.
While large doses of melatonin, like 3 milligrams (ten times the amount your body would normally produce in a day) can have a directly hypnotic effect, one reason to avoid them is that the melatonin will still be present in your body past the time that it starts causing a phase delay instead, screwing up your circadian rhythm even worse.
In my case, I probably have [en.wikipedia.org] non-24, where your circadian mechanism inherently barely responds to light. That's why I had to get serious about melatonin, because nothing else would work. Without it, my schedule goes continually around the clock, regardless of how much light discipline I practice.
If you don't have that, then you also have to avoid blue light exposure past the time you want to simulate the onset of darkness, so the light doesn't counteract the melatonin. That can be done with [www.rshughes.com] wraparound orange sunglasses, or using Redshift on your computers plus incandescents on a dimmer switch or color-temperature-adjustable LED lights for your home lighting.
For almost all of our evolutionary history, artificial light was limited to candles and other fires, which produce a small enough amount of short-wavelength light that it isn't circadian disrupting.
Typical white LEDs produce far more blue light than incandescent lamps and sodium vapor lamps. The proliferation of white LED lighting and the use of screens that don't adjust their output spectrum with the time of day are enough to cause delayed sleep phase syndrome in most of the population.
This post has been edited by Necromusume: Nov 7 2022, 20:24
I can't sleep without jerking off. And it is taking me longer, like hours, to find good material to jerk off to. If I don't jerk off I will spend the same hours or longer lying on the bed staring at the ceiling and not able to sleep.
I can't sleep without jerking off. And it is taking me longer, like hours, to find good material to jerk off to. If I don't jerk off I will spend the same hours or longer lying on the bed staring at the ceiling and not able to sleep.
I'd say have my slut whore mom jerk you off, but she died. You are more than welcome to have your way with the body if that helps you sleep.
Right now, I'm sick. Spent pretty much the whole last night turning around and sometimes getting up to drink some water. So this time I'm here at 02:48.
Right now, I'm sick. Spent pretty much the whole last night turning around and sometimes getting up to drink some water. So this time I'm here at 02:48.
Friends, do you stay up late?
Oct 28 2022, 06:59
