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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E3v84pL3a8&t=23 / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNhXgwVsW60 Just this part. Are they similar? They don't really sound the same, but the songs immediately reminded me of each other here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03rzI5qPWOs&t=26 / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdpJjyQrTew First song feels like a medley of other songs I know. This part instantly reminded me of this <nice Evangelion and Gunslinger Girl copycat hentai video>.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03rzI5qPWOs&t=56 / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nv-vPBA0fI&t=13 This part seems familiar but after a bunch of search fails, the closest I found so far was this. Not what I expected.

I've never heard a woman singer sound this close to a guy before. I can't believe it. They must have used a voice changer or other kind of processing to do this? This voice actress does one of the most convincing guy voices out there but she's normally nowhere near as manly as in this song. There are some freaky vtuber versions of this song hehe. Is this IV V iii (#Vdim) vi? I've noticed lately that there are a number of songs that will use the anime progression just once in the resting/unique passage usually near the end, so this is another place to look for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0kNGz7FoZ0&t=26 (guitar) / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-IwkD_QblY&t=48 (guitar) / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJiUGSd9_AQ&t=6 (drums) / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5TNRQhJaSU&t=13 (drums) These seem to have the same kind of beat rhythm, is there a name for it? It's clearest in the first song since it's karaoke version. It's mushed up in the others (I have the karaoke version of the second song on my old computer so I could hear it more clearly).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E3v84pL3a8&t=23 / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNhXgwVsW60 Just this part. Are they similar? They don't really sound the same, but the songs immediately reminded me of each other here.

No, the progressions themselves are not exactly similar but there are a few things that I can think of that make you associate 2 songs together. The sound designs are somewhat similar with the retro-ish vibe. The tempos are a bit different but not too far apart. Same key. The lyrics structure and rhythm, also a lot of fast talking part. The short break right before the chorus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03rzI5qPWOs&t=26 / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdpJjyQrTew First song feels like a medley of other songs I know. This part instantly reminded me of this <nice Evangelion and Gunslinger Girl copycat hentai video>.

I like the first song and that does say a bit lol. It's got this retro visual novel music vibe. Both are the Komuro progression (vi IV V I) and you know that shit is abused in anime music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03rzI5qPWOs&t=56 / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nv-vPBA0fI&t=13 This part seems familiar but after a bunch of search fails, the closest I found so far was this. Not what I expected.

See what I said above? It's retro visual novel music. The progressions are completely different, each chord does take up somewhat similar amount of time due to the tempos being not so far apart. Keys are F minor and E minor. frip song is the canon progression (somewhat) but in F minor? Sailor moon is just going down the entire scale, with some circle of fifths stuff in the double time second half, then quickly modulating to do a ii-V in E major and resolving in E minor again.

Is this IV V iii (#Vdim) vi?

Yes.

These seem to have the same kind of beat rhythm, is there a name for it?

I know what you are talking about but I also have zero idea if it has a name. Not exactly well versed in the various names drummers keep making up. I usually just think about them as numbers, like something is a 2x3+1x10 at 1/8 rhythm in 4/4, rather than sticking to the old way to notate and understand music. I think it's like the DnB rhythm and you fill the space after the first snare with 1/8?

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Guts theme but 4 years before.
[youtu.be] https://youtu.be/XrnWcH7oymQ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocgucru5D5M / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOxkGD8qRB4

I'm entirely sure the tokyo 7th sister song is inspired by pop/stars. 100% confident.

finally got access to my pc again. I tried lining up the 2 songs and they are way more similar than I initially thought. Same 170BPM, just 2 semitones apart. The structure is almost the same, I didn't even need to cut anything and 90% of the songs just lined up perfectly. Even the chorus beats are the same.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBgADhsOoog&t=72s / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIhNdAFaWTY&t=51s : Pretty much same first half of choruses. Yes I know it's just 45(3)6 but the rhythm and melodies.

I only just now realized that the korean-like girls in pop/stars from League of Legends are different from that Overwatch girl. I don't play either game series. Hmm it seems that League of Legends came from Warcraft III, which I did play just a tiny bit while it was in beta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obt4mYCiXFU&t=247

Someone else just posted here about Neuro Vtuber. I'm skeptical on how much is truly automated and how much is manually aided or tweaked by her programmer. But this song is funny regardless. I guess this song is hard to sing for girls. I went to look for real Vtuber girls singing this song and they don't seem to be able to do it either. (I don't think I have any problem with this, though probably anyone who hears me will die).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28M-EFT_O64

Same song as one of the songs in the stream. A guy sings this, though I wonder if he uses processing to make his voice more girly in some parts. I went to check his real voice and it sounds kind of like a normal Japanese guy's voice, just on the high end. My voice should be scarier than his, so maybe I can learn to make girl voice too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28M-EFT_O64

Same song as one of the songs in the stream. A guy sings this, though I wonder if he uses processing to make his voice more girly in some parts. I went to check his real voice and it sounds kind of like a normal Japanese guy's voice, just on the high end. My voice should be scarier than his, so maybe I can learn to make girl voice too.

Oh mafumafu. I have been following him for over a decade. That's his signature singing voice without processing, though I don't think that's a very healthy voice to keep. There's autotune on some of his better records.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYUYXs3b7t4

Unknown lmao.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmd4sEFOkWc / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs6GKj3YZEY : same fucking song. exact same tempo, 2 semitones off. quite similar structurally, both are trio songs. the composer is known to recycle a lot of his music so nothing unusual but this level of laziness is never seen before. the pricunny song is a bit better produced, which is natural considering it's released over 1 year after the other song.

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I thought those two songs sounded like Onegai Muscle or Pre-Parade but when I went to check they weren't the same.

she hits B6(?) like nothing

I don't know what any of these notes are. Hmm.

Seems like good girls can deal with Take on Me by singing it an octave higher to E6. I like this funny squealing version even better but listening to this whole thing might kill you.

Bad girls can do this song by reaching A2 instead. Most of them don't seem to be able to go that low. This girl has a normal speaking voice so I'm surprised she was the only one I found so far going that low.

Last year when I first tried to check the lowest I could make was A2, but I just checked and I can do F2 now. I must be getting into strong man. Big muscle water.

This dude can make E6. He has regular speaking voice. Oh well. I have much girlier voice in the normal speaking and singing range than these guys. I don't think training to make ultra high shrieks or mafumafu voice will change your true default voice much.

I don't think training to make ultra high shrieks or mafumafu voice will change your true default voice much.

They won't but you will destroy your throat physically if you try to do those kinds of voice without proper training. I did, though I only ended up with a few days not being able to talk. Doing high pitched squeaky voice is really damaging. You can notice a few seiyuus changing their signature loli roles into more mature roles over the years if they debuted during their middle/high school.

After watching a bunch more streams I think making songs is not fully automated for Neuro. She sings only one new song every stream (and often repeats it). It's probably still fairly automated, that's why sometimes she makes strange noises or briefly sings in the wrong parts.

Neuro-sama tries again. This is the only song they've felt a need to "fix." Still sounds poor. Actually I think her original version sounds better. This one seems tweaked and artificial. Not sure what exactly triggers the growling. I like listening to her. Maybe being a robot grants her perfect pitch (I haven't heard vocaloid music much to compare).

They won't but you will destroy your throat physically if you try to do those kinds of voice without proper training. I did, though I only ended up with a few days not being able to talk. Doing high pitched squeaky voice is really damaging. You can notice a few seiyuus changing their signature loli roles into more mature roles over the years if they debuted during their middle/high school.

Yeah I noticed that too, it's pretty standard.

Medium-high pitch voice is potentially not as damaging for me; I feel it's more a question of sounding the way I want, versus the quality and stability that comes out. I can choose from like 3+ kinds of squeaky voice in the range most songs are at (even many guy songs seem keyed in the female range).

Ghost Rule is almost comfortable for me in a Hatsune Miku voice, but I dunno how to make mafumafu voice, at least not in that quality.

Ironically, the person in the world with the voice closest to mine (maybe) turned out to be a hololiver that was born a month after I learned what a vtuber was. I think their voice is natural since I know mine is, but I don't know if they are a guy or a girl in real life. Uniquely, they refuse to sing anything (and never laugh, sneeze, or cough) so it's like they are hiding something. I'm not one of those suspicious dudes though so I have to pray she is a girl based on her looks.

The hololiver also likes to make deep guy voice and little sister voice, so she's perfect for me to compare with what I can generate. I first noticed our similarity from her "little sister" voice, which was almost the same as my "stuffed animal" voice, which I used to use often (only when no human can hear me). Just like me, she was refusing to sing even happy birthday in a stream. The couple clips she sung, she uses the little girl voice (which is also what I'd often default to).

Later I noticed that her serious speaking voice is even more similar to my real voice, to the point that I mistake it for myself in certain clips and get major cringe.

I'm old though so I probably shouldn't push my voice at this age. This morning I woke up feeling better than usual, and I was listening to that Take on Me octave up by the professional girl. For some reason I felt that I could get close, and indeed I did (horrible screeching quality). I almost got up to E6 twice (probably D6 or so). But then blood came out of my nose and now my throat is a bit raspy. (Wait, where did that blood originate?)

I could probably hit that with training, maybe in more than one way. Pointless though because I'll never be anywhere close to a real girl in quality. I think when I was younger I knew how to go an entire octave higher, but I forgot the feeling. The guy from above actually explained it, but his explanation was the same as what I innately felt. "Just self-experiment, find and do it and suddenly go an octave higher" haha.

This also reminds me that my voice actually never changed in school. I read this year that girls' voices do deepen but only a few tones. I probably went the same. Some people in high school had remarked that my voice never changed. There are also some other physical changes that didn't occur for me until I was 30, or never at all.

Wait this guy is awesome. Okay I will probably improve a lot from this guy. He has 100 videos of singing. However I must rest for 1 week to a month, after I bled from trying to scream a falsetto E6.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtawrvojDyU / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuAcdIqcanA: intro, even the riff is roughly similar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQx3EhYK5p8 / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjrYKwxZNbY : lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQx3EhYK5p8&t=48s / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1-7uRBhyy8&t=57s : lol. This is too sussy. Exactly the same progression, 1 semitone and 7bpm apart. But the more suspicious part is the syncopation. Notice that all chords start an eighth early rather than exactly on the beat (a.k.a. syncopation).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBC8cVy3PGw : fripSiden't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y68I1GeXESk / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3bxbVGWy5k : genre and production. intros are quite structurally and melodically similar

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I see that unravel song again that vtubers like to sing for some reason. That guy sounds like he is dying. Lemme dig up my old links and listen again a year later.

semi-pro vtuber unravel / amateur vtuber unravel (all hololive) Oh yeah, not bad I guess. I could make fun of the amateur one last year but anything is better than me, and at least these are all obviously 1000% real girls. Although I also like the yellow hololive girl vtuber that has my guy voice, even though I occasionally cringe when I mistake it for my own.

Thanks for making me realize there was Tiger Bunny 2, don't remember if I even watched all of Tiger Bunny 1 but it's all free on Netflix so I can watch it whenever now. This song has some resemblance to the first one. Was one of the songs in the anime medley contest that I recognized.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y68I1GeXESk / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOGaugKpzs The Anohana song is overall more similar, but I imagine a tiny bit of this in your Elf song, maybe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij-EmRP1hTw / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJiUGSd9_AQ&t=6 The songs are probably not particularly similar but it's another example of that drum rhythm I was talking about earlier that I found.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uS-0w2J5b4 Not similar to anything, just might as well post every song this group did since they only made 3 songs and they are kind of good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2rmqzZs7ao This one was by a different composer and the one I heard first, many years ago. But the voices are distinctive or something because I knew right away it was the same group. Best song from this anime is earlier in this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCz1C68OdWQ Just reposting songs I like from before again so I can find them here. This one also has that rhythm. Default version with Mikuru Asahina singer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ7jJQsgxAo When I made the prior post I discovered there were more versions of this song. I immediately went to buy this Hitomi Nabatame version. I didn't know she could sing good. I think this is the most normal and best version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtzYvJ63JaY This singer sounds like a dying Hatsune Miku to me. I'm surprised the comments like it. I might buy this cheap CD later when I can combine it into an overseas parcel for free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH8EexBNztU Just some random other shojo IV V iii vi songs (I think) I watched somewhat recently. Kimi ni Todoke is ultra sappy, I guess this is what girls like to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfVWdc7Vhdw I wouldn't expect IV V iii vi to be as popular for shojo anime? I struggled to survive this is what happens when you buy $10 blu-rays based on cover picture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yee-r9EIqg This shojo anime is more adult-like and has lots of good songs, no IV V iii VI. I have no idea how to describe the story except that it's about a bunch of promiscuous people.

I wouldn't expect IV V iii vi to be as popular for shojo anime?

it's literally the backbone of jpop. it's harder to find a japanese song without this progression, regardless of genres/demographics.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=92&v=ihF8jUVT9Ns / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I_DKXWdmRU : outright sampled. I'm surprised people don't talk about how similar they are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=27&v=8whmEEiJSeA / https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=31&v=x8VYWazR5mE : can't really pinpoint the reason but the 2 songs have very similar vibe. I guess the structure and rhythm. Chords are entirely different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=55&v=wtqib5i-Z6I / https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=51&v=n7VZxg9pxkg : rhythm. Yes I know they are 4536. But the rhythm is the thing. Both chorus vocals start 1/8th of a beat early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvBYEjHIomw : Key's (the visual novel company) or rather Orito Shinji's music with kz's production.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQaIKnHltb0 / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2GJcYBoVyg : 1 bpm apart, 2 semitones apart. Both with kami motif, folk oriental instruments (a.k.a. 和風). Can't ignore the 4536 spam in the choruses, but that's how jpop works. Ooishi's song has very similar verse structure, melody, rhythm to Yoru ni Kakeru as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--YlMbCrpsA / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSy-z9N7A-k : structure and production
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--YlMbCrpsA&t=61s / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ElwbjokcvM&t=54s : same chorus pretty much. same key also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JPm6z7F3Co / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC_qla6FQwM : Hibikase is 100% inspired by Systematic Love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_CSdxSGfaA&t=106s / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnyIPjuu__w&t=70s : same key (I think), 3 bpm apart, same rhythm (the clave). And, uhh, same lyrics I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsE6B-SuBBA / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-M1AtrxztU : instrumentation (start with violin, then marimba spam)

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I don't like looking at real life people, but still I gotta say, that real girl in that video doesn't look like she could be the girl singing the song by the voice...nope she isn't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_CSdxSGfaA&t=106 / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnyIPjuu__w&t=51 / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5XoVNQNUac&t=20 This song might be able to go in that group, too. Way slower, lower key (?), and chords are time rotated (?) though.

We Are Japanese Goblin what is this hehe

Hmm seems it came from a Touhou bgm. Whenever people show me Touhou songs though, I rarely like them. The only one I liked so far is Chinese Tea. I don't know anything about Touhou except from various random hentais.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaZTnSJ2pe0: This is probably the worst case of generic anime music I have ever heard. It somehow sounds like all music anime at the same time. I can hear gochiusa, kemono friends, new game, and a few more anime just from this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKdOUJOuv1k / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0C4N51Iq80: just same sample, which is kinda irrelevant to this thread but I find it funny.

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