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Dec 23 2021, 13:19
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sssss2
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE - Primary stat bonuses and a global damage bonus depending on the number of tower floors cleared QUOTE Floor 201: sssss2 (1843795) I cleared the floor 200 and reached the floor 201, so I get a global damage bonus 20.0%, not 20.1%. Right? I stopped challenging the tower to get this number 20.0.
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Dec 23 2021, 14:03
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pooaa
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 661
Joined: 20-July 14

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is it possible to reduce chance of ponies overlapping each other? it's almost certain to lose one when they overlap combined with obscure stuff, i have encounter three overlap altogether...
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Dec 23 2021, 14:24
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(sssss2 @ Dec 23 2021, 12:19)  I cleared the floor 200 and reached the floor 201, so I get a global damage bonus 20.0%, not 20.1%.
Right?
Sorry, your OCD will have to remain triggered for the rest of the season. QUOTE(pooaa @ Dec 23 2021, 13:03)  is it possible to reduce chance of ponies overlapping each other? it's almost certain to lose one when they overlap combined with obscure stuff, i have encounter three overlap altogether...
There already is a bias for one to be somewhat to the left and one to be somewhat to the right, but if it turns out to be a big issue I might increase it.
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Dec 23 2021, 14:31
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cs987987
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 11-March 12

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Can we have a system like the Tagging data to show the Riddlemaster accuracy with 1-2 days delay If it has the 1-2 days delay, we will not know the answer is correct or not right now
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Dec 23 2021, 16:37
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(cs987987 @ Dec 23 2021, 13:31)  Can we have a system like the Tagging data to show the Riddlemaster accuracy with 1-2 days delay If it has the 1-2 days delay, we will not know the answer is correct or not right now
I'll probably just add an indicator when your accuracy is low enough that you have a penalty.
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Dec 23 2021, 17:47
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pooaa
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Dec 23 2021, 20:24)  There already is a bias for one to be somewhat to the left and one to be somewhat to the right, but if it turns out to be a big issue I might increase it.
I see, the problem is the third one will likely to accompany either, when the pair have same direction the feature will hard to identify If the penalty indicator is out I'll surely be less anxious (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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Dec 23 2021, 19:04
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GREGRE
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 225
Joined: 27-November 10

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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Dec 23 2021, 02:36)  Like I said before, I know that not all riddles can be solved accurately so the system doesn't expect you to. That said, it's usually Fluttershy, and I just replaced the two vectors that seem to be causing people the most problems. I'll try to get around to it today or tomorrow.
How confident should we be in our answer in order to check off a pony? Thus far, I've only checked off ponies that I'm almost completely certain are correct, so I think I've definitely missed some of them. For the formless blobs in OnceForAll's post, I can sometimes rule out a few ponies, but avoid answering in order to avoid incurring penalties (since the previous system penalized choosing the wrong pony). Should we instead be checking off ponies if we think that there is a passing chance that they may be in the image? Also, if we can't decide between two ponies, are we better off checking off both of them just in case? QUOTE(Tenboro @ Dec 23 2021, 09:37)  I'll probably just add an indicator when your accuracy is low enough that you have a penalty.
Thank you, this would definitely reduce the amount of dread I feel when a riddlemaster screen pops up.
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Dec 23 2021, 19:41
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Necromusume
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 6,974
Joined: 17-May 12

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QUOTE(OnceForAll @ Dec 23 2021, 02:31)  (IMG:[ pic.skk.moe] https://pic.skk.moe/file/sukkaw/eh/53.jpg) Can somebody please tell me where is the third pony? I only see 2 Rarity here. (IMG:[ files.catbox.moe] https://files.catbox.moe/w8a7e0.png) Applejack? This is going to be the next script: Players barking at the screen, "Rotate! Enhance!" Leon: Pony, what's that? Holden: Know what a horse is? Leon: Of course. Holden: Same thing. Leon: I've never seen a pony. Track 45 left. Enhance 15 to 23. Give me a hard copy right there. This post has been edited by Necromusume: Dec 23 2021, 19:54
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Dec 23 2021, 20:59
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nek
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hi is it possible to display bonus damage granted from isekai ?
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Dec 23 2021, 21:08
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Mud attheBaseofLotus
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Can you next time deliver equipment from isekai to persistent via mooglemail? Cause it is hard to see what we receiving, and just in case when someone have no empty slots in inventory(what would happens in this case?), also it doesn't feel like a reward when stuff silently appears in inventory.
I saw credits added in credit log - thats fine.
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Dec 23 2021, 22:22
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BlueWaterSplash
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ sssss2 cleared floor 200 and reached floor 201)  Sorry, your OCD will have to remain triggered for the rest of the season. Presuming you were being serious, does that mean everybody (even those who fail to clear isekai Floor 1) gets at least a 0.1% damage bonus to persistent? CODE Reached Floor 205: youshi1 (3146277) Floor 205: Ming28561 (3775954) Floor 205: Bolide (2309354) Floor 204: Xeda (4388600) Floor 201: sssss2 (1843795) Floor 200: gehelife (1070629) Floor 180: raraha (4071895) Floor 177: Treesion (707354) Floor 161: sabregimp (188779) Floor 155: Nero-Arc (700155) Floor 145: HT862 (1751283) Floor 139: newzhenterzzf (5585303) Floor 139: conatime (5595606) Floor 130: BlackPantsu (586593) Floor 130: accelkatana (4012458) Floor 122: NeoAlden (5940217) Floor 121: P-Killer (2968580) Floor 120: Scarlet Tear (5159860) Floor 120: ashlikt (2309737) Floor 115: ace_amuro (896192) Floor 112: unikwind (2480915) Floor 108: eomivan (808303) Floor 106: Altair.AC (3905888) Floor 105: Chizuru Ichinose (638489) Floor 104: Ass Spanker (1068757) Floor 103: chanman2021 (5678409) Floor 101: ex-homehome (1284678) Floor 101: XMike (8053)
Cleared Floor 178: youshi1 (3146277) Cleared Floor 122: Grandmasters (4697311) Cleared Floor 104: Bolide (2309354) Cleared Floor 103: conatime (5595606) Cleared Floor 101: Nezu (867559) Cleared Floor 100: Altair.AC (3905888) Cleared Floor 100: sabregimp (188779) Cleared Floor 100: ace_amuro (896192) Cleared Floor 99: Treesion (707354) Cleared Floor 98: Nonfar (3861631) Cleared Floor 97: Xeda (4388600) Cleared Floor 95: P-Killer (2968580) From these result comparisons, I'm just guessing that season 2 was less grindy than season 1 (maybe not by a huge amount) while the added difficulty wasn't enough to make any difference (players of adequate level can just use Silence and Sleep as necessary). My personal experiences were skewed from the typical because I play just the minimum to reach Floor 50, so my level is too low. Even though Floors 41~50 were probably inherently somewhat less grindy than season 1, that was eliminated for me because of the added difficulty. I had to Weaken the same monsters up to 2~4 times due to expiring buffs (noted to be tweaked for season 3). Also the season 3 notes suggest Floors 41~50 will be much easier in season 3 (no change overall though, for those who want to advance further) so I'm looking forward to it. Wait, I just realized that if debuff durations have been generally increased (?) then 1H Paradise style may become more viable (if it wasn't already).If the goal is to cause isekai players to hit a difficulty wall (as opposed to just being limited by how much they are willing to grind) restricting items is probably not the ideal answer. I think monster damages should increase more, while monster health need not increase. Even that may not be enough because of Silence and Sleep (and Blind), so those might have to be tweaked. In a way that would be a shame because Sleep and Blind are finally getting to shine because of the tower. In persistent, no one would ever use them (low level players may still occasionally Weaken or Silence). Maybe that would be addressed with the upcoming versions of item world. We could use Silence and Sleep there, but perhaps they could be disabled in isekai (like fusrodah).
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Dec 23 2021, 22:36
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(GREGRE @ Dec 23 2021, 18:04)  How confident should we be in our answer in order to check off a pony? Thus far, I've only checked off ponies that I'm almost completely certain are correct, so I think I've definitely missed some of them. For the formless blobs in OnceForAll's post, I can sometimes rule out a few ponies, but avoid answering in order to avoid incurring penalties (since the previous system penalized choosing the wrong pony). Should we instead be checking off ponies if we think that there is a passing chance that they may be in the image? Also, if we can't decide between two ponies, are we better off checking off both of them just in case?
The "wrongness" for a riddle answer is calculated as (unique_ponies - num_correct + num_wrong) / unique_ponies, so if there are 3 ponies shown and you answer three correctly you'd have (3 - 3 + 0) / 3 = 0. If you answer 2 correctly and miss/leave 1 it would be (3 - 2 + 0) / 3 = 0.33. And if you answer 2 correctly and 1 incorrectly, it would be (3 - 2 + 1) / 3 = 0.67. So generally you wouldn't want to check a box unless you are more than 50% sure. QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Dec 23 2021, 21:22)  Presuming you were being serious, does that mean everybody (even those who fail to clear isekai Floor 1) gets at least a 0.1% damage bonus to persistent?
You'd need to clear at least one floor to get anything, but you'd get 0.2% for reaching floor 2, yes.
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Dec 23 2021, 22:51
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GREGRE
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 225
Joined: 27-November 10

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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Dec 23 2021, 15:36)  The "wrongness" for a riddle answer is calculated as (unique_answers - num_correct + num_wrong) / unique_answers, so if there are 3 ponies shown and you answer three correctly you'd have (3 - 3 + 0) / 3 = 0. If you answer 2 correctly and miss/leave 1 it would be (3 - 2 + 0) / 3 = 0.33. And if you answer 2 correctly and 1 incorrectly, it would be (3 - 2 + 1) / 3 = 0.67. So generally you wouldn't want to check a box unless you are more than 50% sure.
Thanks for the info. It sounds like it would definitely be better to err on the side of caution in most cases. Also, by that math, if you can't decide between two ponies, it sounds like you would be better off picking neither of them, since it can only harm you (in the circumstance where one of those ponies shows up elsewhere in the image, or if it was actually a different pony from the two you thought it was) This post has been edited by GREGRE: Dec 23 2021, 22:52
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Dec 23 2021, 23:17
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(GREGRE @ Dec 23 2021, 21:51)  Also, by that math, if you can't decide between two ponies, it sounds like you would be better off picking neither of them, since it can only harm you (in the circumstance where one of those ponies shows up elsewhere in the image, or if it was actually a different pony from the two you thought it was)
Yeah, if you can't decide between two ponies, checking both of them will at best be as good as picking nether. It doesn't encourage wild guessing.
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Dec 24 2021, 00:09
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namae56709
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Dec 23 2021, 20:22)  If the goal is to cause isekai players to hit a difficulty wall (as opposed to just being limited by how much they are willing to grind) restricting items is probably not the ideal answer. I think monster damages should increase more, while monster health need not increase.
There is a point at which increasing a monster's damage stops having any effect. There is a hard limit on how much SP spirit shield can use but it will still protect you from damage.
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Dec 24 2021, 01:11
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BlueWaterSplash
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Thanks for mentioning that. I think what could happen though is that the monster damage from skills will effectively cap as you mention for a wide range of difficulties (floors and rounds). Then at some point, if the monster damage increases enough, even ordinary attacks could start draining down your spirit shield. Then you'll have to worry about spirit running out, and that's when you'll maybe need to also start using Sleep or Blind. If the current Tower doesn't get to that point in practice, then the difficulty scaling can be adjusted until it does. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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Dec 24 2021, 01:17
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XMike
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 929
Joined: 26-November 06

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Can we get a number display of how many rounds we can do before we run out of stamina on the character screen? I didn't read the instructions and thought I only had to pick one pony for the captchas and now I'm down to 5 stamina and have no idea what my stamina per round cost is >_>;;
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Dec 24 2021, 01:31
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BlueWaterSplash
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I got one of those hard 3rd pony things, and I selected two ponies, then I went O_O for a really long time... and the timer ran out and I got all 3 wrong (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Dec 24 2021, 04:26
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稗田阿一
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 237
Joined: 17-August 19

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Can you check my pony log? Today I feel my stamina consumption abnormal. I remember I just missing an option today.(Missed an AJ) Now 20round AR cost 3 stamina. Worse than that, it seems that a tower take me more than 30 stamina.
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Dec 24 2021, 05:15
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XMike
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 929
Joined: 26-November 06

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I think by picking 1 pony type for all the captchas I've somehow gotten my stamina burn rate so high that it consumed 9 stamina for clearing a 40 round tower.
I thought having more than one correct answer meant you can pick any ONE of the ponies on the captcha, not you have to go and pick each one >_>;;
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