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I could be wrong, but as I read it, the only time you lose stamina is because of not answering riddlemaster in time.

You may consume more stamina per round, but there seems to be some leniency for error that most people probably won't get hit hard if at all by it.

(I may get corrected on this)

Riddlemaster
Instead of valuating answers as binary "right" or "wrong" it will internally calculate an accuracy score based on how many unique ponies were displayed and how many right and wrong answers you made. Instead of docking stamina directly, the recent average of these accuracy scores is used interally to adjust the per-battle stamina cost.

If you fail to answer within the time limit, you will be docked 10 stamina directly regardless of your riddle history. (It will not affect the per-round stamina cost.)

The obfuscation factors (blobbiness and graininess) are now dynamic and adjusted interally based on various factors, primarily your level and how much you played lately. Most other aspects of the generation have also been reworked.

Yes, I think that basically repeats what I said, if you also include:

Because the images are all randomly generated, you may occasionally (rarely?) encounter jumbled riddles that are difficult or near-impossible to fully discern. Due to this, you will still keep the normal stamina consumption up to some margin of error.

In other words, while it is more difficult to answer perfectly, it is also more forgiving of occasional mistakes.

Snom offers to have more time limit for Ponies's (was Pony's) Ambush (aka Riddle) because there will be more Ponies to recognize them than usual. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

This post has been edited by shote1369: Dec 22 2021, 02:13

I could be wrong, but as I read it, the only time you lose stamina is because of not answering riddlemaster in time.

You may consume more stamina per round, but there seems to be some leniency for error that most people probably won't get hit hard if at all by it.

Pretty much, yeah. Looking at the actual stats, the majority of people are well within the set accuracy requirement for no penalty. But a bunch of people obviously didn't get the memo yet that there can be more than 1 solution, so it should improve over the next few days.

Because the images are all randomly generated, you may occasionally (rarely?) encounter jumbled riddles that are difficult or near-impossible to fully discern.

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Internal numbers (accuracy calculations/requirements, stamina cost factors, obfuscation factor thresholds etc) are not disclosed and no readout will be provided for them.

Note that soliciting people to submit riddle images with answers as well as providing such are now bannable offenses - riddle images can be traced to the account they were generated for. (This doesn't disallow "look at this stupidly impossible riddle lol" kind of posts at a small scale.)

Not afraid of Google Recaptcha lawyers knocking on your door for concept stealing? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

What's wrong with the previous system?

It's obviously intended to make it harder to set up a neural network which automatically learns to solve the riddlemaster.

This post has been edited by Necromusume: Dec 22 2021, 02:31

For the Riddlemaster, could Applejack be placed on the A option if that's not random as well?

The most times I got the riddle wrong were when I was half asleep, saw Applejack, then chose A without thinking, even if the correct answer was B or C.

Anyone else noticed that there's significantly less rounds in the arena?

Never mind.

This post has been edited by Honeycat: Dec 23 2021, 03:42

When will the last season Isekai Peerlesses appear in Persistent inventory ?

And shouldn't the credits above 1M also appear in Credits Log ?

'Cause I haven't seen either until now ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

When will the last season Isekai Peerlesses appear in Persistent inventory ?

And shouldn't the credits above 1M also appear in Credits Log ?

'Cause I haven't seen either until now ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Takes a while, I think last time it felt like a month before it was transfered (maybe more like 2 weeks)

Takes a while, I think last time it felt like a month before it was transfered (maybe more like 2 weeks)

Welp, thanks. Talk about automation ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Uhhm, so I just hit 0 Stamina in Isekai while doing arenas, even though I started it with like 34.

I got a RE, and I'm pretty sure I answered properly...

EDIT: if there's going to be such a harsh punishment now, can we at least have a stamina log to check how much we are using for each modes, and if we messed up a RE at some point somewhere.

EDIT2: Having the current stamina displayed in battle would be great as well. I never know if it's the right moment to use an energy drink on persistent, and it was an awful surprise finishing the Isekai arena and finding a sad smiley with a 0 right next to it.

This post has been edited by Kinights: Dec 22 2021, 05:50

This is a dramatic update.

Uhhm, so I just hit 0 Stamina in Isekai while doing arenas, even though I started it with like 34.

I got a RE, and I'm pretty sure I answered properly...

EDIT: if there's going to be such a harsh punishment now, can we at least have a stamina log to check how much we are using for each modes, and if we messed up a RE at some point somewhere.

EDIT2: Having the current stamina displayed in battle would be great as well. I never know if it's the right moment to use an energy drink on persistent, and it was an awful surprise finishing the Isekai arena and finding a sad smiley with a 0 right next to it.

I've encounter similar problem, drained more than 20 stamina in a single arena, and pretty sure answered the riddle correctly...
and since there's no ED in isk so forced to stop

Uhhm, so I just hit 0 Stamina in Isekai while doing arenas, even though I started it with like 34.

I got a RE, and I'm pretty sure I answered properly...

EDIT: if there's going to be such a harsh punishment now, can we at least have a stamina log to check how much we are using for each modes, and if we messed up a RE at some point somewhere.

EDIT2: Having the current stamina displayed in battle would be great as well. I never know if it's the right moment to use an energy drink on persistent, and it was an awful surprise finishing the Isekai arena and finding a sad smiley with a 0 right next to it.

I've encounter similar problem, drained more than 20 stamina in a single arena, and pretty sure answered the riddle correctly...
and since there's no ED in isk so forced to stop

The same happened to two friends purifiedcat and onceforall, their staminas were dropped by 9 points in a single IW (around 20-35 rounds)

The same happened to two friends purifiedcat and onceforall, their staminas were dropped by 9 points in a single IW (around 20-35 rounds)

And it is getting worse. I am now at 8 Stamina and I don't even have enough Stamina to even start a new 32 round IW again. I might have missed 1 of 2 unique ponies once or twice before (My strategy is rather select less, don't select anything wrong), and now the punishment just surprises me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


This post has been edited by OnceForAll: Dec 22 2021, 06:41

Without being able to see stamina penalties it is very hard to provide feedback except where you are losing significant amounts of stamina. People could be using more stamina per round due to penalties and unless they are claculating expected stamina each battle they may never know, which I certainly do not like the idea of.

New Season Notes (2021 S2 -> 2022 S1)
Persistent awards will be added soon.

Looking forward to that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Isekai Changes
- Minor correction to the difficulty calculation for Tower difficulty. It should now actually reach PDUFOR at Floor 40 rather than a few floors earlier.
- You can now attempt/clear The Tower 5 times per day until you reach Floor 20.
- The stat bonus thresholds are now for reaching the floor rather than clearing it, since the readout makes it a bit confusing.

Hurray, now it sounds eaasier to reach at least Floor 30 now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Thank you very much for the Updates, Tenboro!

It's obviously intended to make it harder to set up a neural network which automatically learns to solve the riddlemaster.

I get that but is a severe first time penalty really necessary?
By previous system I was referring to the previous penalty system that was lenient to the occasional miss but gets just as severe for repeat offenders.

Penalty aside I think the new riddles themselves are ok
but time could be an issue in Persistent where I would only have 20 seconds
as I have been staring at some of these for way more than that.
Then again that's partially because I am being more cautious than usual to avoid the steep penalties.

I've changed the behavior when running out of time to consider it as a blank answer with no direct stamina loss. I also tweaked some of the internal numbers based on the actual accuracy stats to make it a bit more lenient and bring most people within the "no penalty" range, and set it to only consider riddles answered after right now, but;

Uhhm, so I just hit 0 Stamina in Isekai while doing arenas, even though I started it with like 34.

I got a RE, and I'm pretty sure I answered properly...

You only got 12 out of 23 across 12 riddles, so you may not have noticed that there can be several answers.

I've encounter similar problem, drained more than 20 stamina in a single arena, and pretty sure answered the riddle correctly...
and since there's no ED in isk so forced to stop

You got 13 out of 23 across 13 riddles, so the same applies to you.

And it is getting worse. I am now at 8 Stamina and I don't even have enough Stamina to even start a new 32 round IW again. I might have missed 1 of 2 unique ponies once or twice before (My strategy is rather select less, don't select anything wrong), and now the punishment just surprises me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

17 out of 23 with 2 wrong answers in 11 riddles.

I get that but is a severe first time penalty really necessary?
By previous system I was referring to the previous penalty system that was lenient to the occasional miss but gets just as severe for repeat offenders.

It's not. It doesn't start to apply any stamina penalties until a number of riddles have been answered and the accuracy is below a certain threshold, and the penalty scales exponentially so if you're just a little bit below the threshold it would be barely noticeable. The occasional miss has no penalties whatsoever, unlike the old system.

but time could be an issue in Persistent where I would only have 20 seconds

The min time was increased to 30 seconds.