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post Jan 3 2022, 20:50
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QUOTE(Mags_ @ Jan 3 2022, 18:17) *



Even though this is the edited edition I still love it.

It kills me we only get a proper passion project like Redline once in a decade and yet we get new isekai shit every season.
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post Jan 4 2022, 01:54
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Keanu Reeves gave away his Matrix 4 money to the crew and charities.


Doing it for the money, the correct way.
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post Jan 4 2022, 02:46
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 3 2022, 13:54) *

Keanu Reeves gave away his Matrix 4 money to the crew and charities.
Doing it for the money, the correct way.


I swear I was watching The Matrix series on TV last night and you mentioned Keanu Reeves!
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post Jan 5 2022, 03:41
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I just accidentally read an untagged spoiler for the last couple episodes of Bubblegum Crisis.

God damn it. This is why America is dying. Anime spoilers for 35 year old series.

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post Jan 5 2022, 04:01
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You know who else is dying?

Aeris.
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post Jan 5 2022, 04:27
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Jan 4 2022, 21:01) *
You know who else is dying?

Aeris.
Yeah, that one got spoiled for me, too. And Mother 3's ending.

That's the one thing that really, really sucks about playing old games/watching/reading old media for the first time now.

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post Jan 5 2022, 05:18
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post Jan 5 2022, 05:28
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Jan 4 2022, 16:01) *

You know who else is dying?

Aeris.



1997 Me: "That is weird, why is Aeris getting her ultimate weapon so early in the game...."


Do they change anything in the remake? There were always those rumors of being able to bring Aeris back to life in the Jap version but it might have been people confused with game shark.
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post Jan 5 2022, 08:49
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IDK, but if they do they've taken the Phantasy Star II remake route (which is a bad one).

The permadeath in that game was only meaningful because the character was actually perma-dead.

Although I already knew they were taking a bad route when they decided to kill ATB and let Nomura direct games.

He's a funny guy with an interesting sense of humor, but I do not like his games. FF9 was one of my favorites (the others were 3 and 5 for job systems; 9 had a nicer story though) and I think it might be partially because of Nomura's lack of involvement in the project.

Even the original version of 7 was annoying and in many ways a step down from 6 - which was basically a show run by Yoshitaka Amano (the guy who does all the 'whispy' looking art for all the early games).

Neither had good gameplay, but 6 had a coherent story and characters that I liked more on average - including protagonists I didn't want to strangle (Cloud).

I really felt something for pretty much all the characters in that game. Except possibly Gau. But whatever.
I especially felt for Terra, as I am sure I was supposed to.
The only characters in FF7 that I like are:
  • The Childhood Fren, because she actually cares about people and the planet, and also kicks ass in fights
  • The materia hoarder who stole all your shit but had cutesy music and interesting dialogue on the airship
  • The family dog (the ONLY part of the game that really got me emotional for longer than fifteen seconds).
  • That fat guy who died really early on that cloud was a dick to on the train
The end.
I hate everyone else. The rest of the game is edgelord garbage and aeris being horny.

Characters I hate in FF6:
  • Kefka, AKA the guy I'm supposed to hate, because the game is well written.
That is all.

Characters I really like in FF6:
Cyan:
[i.imgur.com] (IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/iR1XaJKg.jpg)
Shadow:
[i.imgur.com] (IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/bjLtS5Ag.jpg)
Terra:
[i.imgur.com] (IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/pAQtcD9g.jpg)
(Terra in "trance:")
[i.imgur.com] (IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/yAEr8Gag.jpg)
And more I'm too lazy to find art for:
  • Celes.
  • Edgar.
  • Mog.
  • Locke.
  • Relm.
Also FF6's music blows every song save three (which I think are of equal caliber) from FF7 out of the water. Just hearing the overworld music or the opening credit version of it gets me stirred up.

Anecdote time:

I sat down with a friend and watched him play the entirety of FF7. At the end he said "you know, I liked the game."
Then I asked "why? because the characters suddenly became likeable on disc 3? Did that really make up for Midgar? Or all the "what the fuck do I do now" moments? Or the controls?"

He couldn't answer.

Actually, the one thing he did say was that the game would have been better in 2D.

I'm happy he came around to liking Yuffie at the end, at least. Yuffie was the powerhouse on my playthrough, seconded by Cloud or Tifa.

Oh another thing, you don't have to play the entire game three times to understand the story without looking up someone else's explanation in FF6.

Of course, the gameplay is garbage in every FF game that isn't called FF5, though.

And one FF3 art that I adore, almost as much as the JP Phantasy Star II cover art:
[i.imgur.com] (IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/fKVxkFFg.jpg)

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post Jan 5 2022, 09:43
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I played them in the wrong wrong order, so I prefer FF7. Not sure why, I had a SNES for ages, but couldn't afford many games. Didn't play FF6 and other FF until years later.


I also just saw a video, that they recently found how to save Aeris using Yuffie.
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post Jan 5 2022, 09:45
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 5 2022, 02:43) *
I played them in the wrong wrong order, so I prefer FF7. Not sure why, I had a SNES for ages, but couldn't afford many games. Didn't play FF6 and other FF until years later.
I also just saw a video, that they recently found how to save Aeris using Yuffie.
I updated my rant; see the top two lines for how I feel about that.

7 isn't irredeemable like some later FF games are, but it is vastly overrated and the remake seems to ruin the things that the original actually had going for it. If you can revive Aeris the death loses pretty much all impact.

It's like FF4 where every death is a fake-out. Sure, when Rydia comes back at the crucial moment, I felt pretty happy about it. But when the game was over, her going overboard didn't really feel that important except as a way to get a quick reaction from the player. Nothing that stays with you.

I say this as someone with a perma-dead character as my avatar here. Except not in the remake. Most of the reason I remember her so strongly (apart from cuteness) is because she really was a tragic character through and through, whose only big break was a six month period spent with the main protagonist of the game, who cared for her despite her alien appearance that made her an outcast. Since she was genetically engineered to grow fast, her entire lifespan was about a year before she died. So for half her life she was hungry and unloved.

If you consider the text adventure game that serves as a sort of prequel, there's even more to that story, but I'm not going to get into it even though it's interesting to me because it's sort of like citing star wars prequels or books as if they matter in the context of the 1977 movie - a movie written before anyone had thought up the idea of Vader being Luke's father for instance (That idea came about while writing Empire Strikes Back).

Basically though my point is you can't build up a tragic character, kill them off, and then say "just kidding" and have anyone really remember your game for it. The real impact comes when a death is really a death. Much like I don't trust Sega to do justice to the Phantasy Star series, I don't trust Square/Nomura to do justice to the Final Fantasy games (inferior though they may be).

The best PlayStation RPG I've ever played was either Breath of Fire III or IV. The only Square RPG's I really recommend anyone play are Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Seiken Densetsu III, and Final Fantasy V (VI is borderline because it has a stellar story and music but nothing to keep you engaged when you hit the floating continent). None of those were playstation games (unless you count the "FF Anthology" of snes games ported to PSX).

Honestly though, to me a majority of JRPG's are garbage and always have been garbage. You get a few exceptions every once in a while, but most really aren't fun to play and would almost be better off as visual novels.

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post Jan 5 2022, 14:53
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 5 2022, 13:28) *

1997 Me: "That is weird, why is Aeris getting her ultimate weapon so early in the game...."
Do they change anything in the remake? There were always those rumors of being able to bring Aeris back to life in the Jap version but it might have been people confused with game shark.

[www.explainxkcd.com] https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/299:_Aeris_Dies
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post Jan 5 2022, 20:03
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Jan 5 2022, 07:53) *
The mouseover text, right?
Yeah, I edited a save once to try that out.
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post Jan 5 2022, 20:20
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Music is dead.
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post Jan 5 2022, 20:27
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Music is dead.


Make music
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post Jan 5 2022, 23:17
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Make music
We can't, ever since the day the music died.
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post Jan 6 2022, 08:14
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I prefer the original star wars version.
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post Jan 6 2022, 10:22
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Jan 5 2022, 16:17) *
music died.


Are you kidding me? Nah. We don't need classics and oldies, we're better than that

We need stuff straight off of 4chan

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post Jan 6 2022, 10:38
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 6 2022, 01:14) *
I prefer the original star wars version.
I won't lie, I occasionally accidentally use the weird al lyrics instead myself. I completely understand.
QUOTE(Crazy3D @ Jan 6 2022, 03:22) *
Are you kidding me? Nah. We don't need classics and oldies, we're better than that.

We just need stuff straight off of 4Chan.
You have bad taste. At least in my opinion.



In case blocked for someone, "Take the Long Way Home" (Supertramp - you can substitute almost any track on Breakfast in America though), and Funkadelic's "Maggot Brain" (the whole album).
Might as well mention Wish You Were Here as well.

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post Jan 6 2022, 14:39
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I can't help it.

How are people supposed to be themselves if they can't t-pose some silly beats?

My caucasian anglo-saxon spirit within is crying out for the chance. ♥







Let me know if they are all bad. No hard feelings

This album is pretty good:
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