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#HappyNewYear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6r6p8eAX6Y

Same head chop off anime song from before, just reposting.

#HappyNewYear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMslQH5rj6A

Hoping this counts as fast but this is pretty boring, yeah. Just trying to stay in pure anime team. Maybe it's better to split teams, I don't know.

Happy New Year # Ex

RE-entry for first

Slow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4vYucplJp0
Song: Pandemonic Planet (song from Touhou 15)

2 entries that not in count for ex slow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh7XAgh4tWg
Pieces of My Memory - unlined & Taishi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF7NpKfiZuI
supercell - 銀色飛行船

& happy new year.

Happy New Year # Ex

RE-entry for first

Slow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4vYucplJp0
Song: Pandemonic Planet (song from Touhou 15)

Sorry I'm extra allergic to youtube cover in general. This falls under rule 1.4 unfortunately.

Because I'm a good human, I will ignore the 2nd post from Adhinferno Bloodmoon and count his initial post as the final submission.
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Results:

Individuals:
sogeth
shote1369
londaemon
Firetruckk
Adhinferno Bloodmoon
zch2214278056
arthasdk
BlueWaterSplash
pc12345678

Teams:
Team 1 (18 entries, 8 gold): 27.5% = 6876830 credits
Team 2 (6 entries, 2 gold): 23.2% = 5788010 credits
Team 3 (24 entries, 9 gold): 32.9%= 8229479 credits
Team 4 (2 entries): 16.4% = 4105681 credits

Winning per valid entry:
Team 1: 687683
Team 2: 1447003
Team 3: 548632
Team 4: 2052841

Only 5 players are qualified for speed demon (gold star holders not counted): BlueWaterSplash, Adhinferno Bloodmoon, londaemon, NachtHemd, sogeth. Highest bpm gap is londaemon with 198bpm while lowest is Adhinferno Bloodmoon with only 8. Not sure why he edited the 2nd song to be even slower than his original submission.

There are 21 players with valid submissions, 20 for Xmas, 16 for New Year. One participation prize is 5M/21=238096 credits. To compensate for the inability to get bigger prizes, gold star holders will get one participation prize per valid entry.

Pretty anon, chikeshi, londaemon, NachtHemd, raraha, BlueWaterSplash, sogeth are the only ones with full valid entries.

The secret song is FREEDOM DiVE↓ by xi, so the winner for the F prize is BlueWaterSplash. F is the initial of the song. I omitted the D because it would become another hint. sogeth got the right idea by going for a song with 222.22BPM but unfortunately it's the wrong song.



Start sending prizes now. Hopefully I didn't miss anyone.
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These 2 songs are the would-be for me if I had participated in round Ex:

Our Story - nano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYzO8Z0AykA
Anime: Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio: Ars Nova
A lot of nice songs from the soundtrack

1M PP - Camellia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSDZveD8ZGQ
Not the best thing from Camel. But it's fast, and it fits the requirements.
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All sent. Let me know if you haven't received your prize or if I made any mistakes in the calculations.

I'm never holding a giveaway like this again. Or will I? This was way more tiring than I expected it to be. Though I did get a couple albums from it so that's the silver lining.

This post has been edited by Ass Spanker: Jan 1 2022, 11:58

Congrats to the winners and thanks for holding the event and letting some of us play even if it was mostly for fun (though the participation stuff sure adds up to a lot!). I can understand it being tiring, I'm also checking the entries to see what I can get for myself but I'm only up to Nezu's post so for now I just made a copy of the doc to do it while playing later. Might as well add your entries before I forget.

thanks for the wonderful event!

I got exposed to a lot of new music (and visual novels for the first time!), so this was very interesting competition and community event for me. And I learned a a little bit more about music theory. So that's pretty cool.

Thank you for doing so much work, and being so generous to the community in general.

One small (?) request: I would very much like a version of the spreadhsheet that I could copy/export, if that would be possible. The list of entries alone would be great, of course, but the titles, artists, even the notes and formulas sections would be of interest.

Many many thanks, and a Happy New Year to us all!

I got exposed to a lot of new music (and visual novels for the first time!), so this was very interesting competition and community event for me. And I learned a a little bit more about music theory. So that's pretty cool.

Thank you for doing so much work, and being so generous to the community in general.

One small (?) request: I would very much like a version of the spreadhsheet that I could copy/export, if that would be possible. The list of entries alone would be great, of course, but the titles, artists, even the notes and formulas sections would be of interest.

Many many thanks, and a Happy New Year to us all!

[docs.google.com] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ass...rue&sd=true
Download as xlsx. It should retain all the commands and pivot tables I used.

That last song I posted crapped out, but I would also have given it 130 BPM myself. If we had more guidance on BPM judgment I could easily have found something faster (though not over 200 BPM at 7 minutes within anime category). I would also have rated Image Material 140 BPM; I have little understanding of music.

Given the revised team math, it was way better to split teams. Depending on the specifics, the original formula would greatly reduce those big earnings, which is why I tried to stay purely Anime team. Sogeth got a couple million by copying my X song, haha! I should have copied his Visual Novel song, because there was a 175 BPM song by that same composer (I knew how it would be rated because of the comment). I also had doujin choices but I saw the internet arguing over whether they were 205 or 102.5 BPM (now I think it would be judged 205 BPM).

I found Freedom Dive by copying sogeth. I don't touch rhythm games. When I listened to his song, I accidentally found it. I might still have found it myself; I just didn't try to look for it right away.

That key change song I posted earlier would probably have been Other category (and another song I did not post, unless disqualified for not otaku enough). I guess it's not that hard to join; I didn't know what kind of songs fit there. I thought "3D Idol" meant some kind of cosplaying hentai CGI singer or something.

The spreadsheet comment about the Ranma song made me realize that it has the exact same bass rhythm as my favorite song. Is this precisely what "swing" rhythm means, or is it a more general class of things? Are there any other anime songs with this exact same bass rhythm? (Hey, maybe I should make a contest seeking it!)

I'm downloading all Monster Musume and xi albums (and should update my fripSide stuff) to my other computer now, so I can listen to how they sound on real speakers. I often cannot hear any chords, bass, or low drums on computer monitor speakers. I might be identifying similar songs by the melody actually. Even if melodies are not the same, the chords seem to influence compatible melodies somehow.

I noticed that the structure (intro-verse-chorus pattern) of Monster Musume and Freedom Dive seem similar as well. If I have time, I might try to fuse the entire songs together to see if it works (extract sections of Freedom Dive and/or other songs and splice into Monster). Ass Spanker could probably do it faster and better than me.

I suspect that fusing the beginnings of Hesitation Snow and Inuyasha might not work perfectly. Even though they sound extremely similar, something feels incompatible between them. This might be that Inuyasha is major key and Hesitation Snow is minor key. Maybe trying to fuse them could create an abomination to teach us a lesson in how major/minor key sounds different?

Congrats to everyone that won. Thanks for holding the event. Most of my entries didn't really qualify but hopefully someone enjoyed listening to some of them.

That last song I posted crapped out, but I would also have given it 130 BPM myself. If we had more guidance on BPM judgment I could easily have found something faster (though not over 200 BPM at 7 minutes within anime category). I would also have rated Image Material 140 BPM; I have little understanding of music.

Tempo is a really subjective thing at times and I judge it by feel usually. But IMAGE -MATERIAL- being 140bpm is just impossible. It's way too fast compared to most pop music that hovers around that range.

Given the revised team math, it was way better to split teams. Depending on the specifics, the original formula would greatly reduce those big earnings, which is why I tried to stay purely Anime team. Sogeth got a couple million by copying my X song, haha! I should have copied his Visual Novel song, because there was a 175 BPM song by that same composer (I knew how it would be rated because of the comment). I also had doujin choices but I saw the internet arguing over whether they were 205 or 102.5 BPM (now I think it would be judged 205 BPM).

That was a mistake on my side really. I was trying to make a formula for it but in the original terms, it would mean people with a single entry in anime would have the same prize as people with 5 entries in anime, which was not what I was looking for. But since the start, I have been implying that staying in a big team would not be a good move.

I found Freedom Dive by copying sogeth. I don't touch rhythm games. When I listened to his song, I accidentally found it. I might still have found it myself; I just didn't try to look for it right away.

That was quite a lucky find if you managed to get it by copying sogeth. FD is one of the big cornerstones in music/rhythm games, pretty much a household name if you even remotely play one or follow the doujin music scene by these composers.

That key change song I posted earlier would probably have been Other category (and another song I did not post, unless disqualified for not otaku enough). I guess it's not that hard to join; I didn't know what kind of songs fit there. I thought "3D Idol" meant some kind of cosplaying hentai CGI singer or something.

3D idols I mean like AKB, Morning Musume, etc. I don't listen to them much and I might be missing out on something nice by doing so. But to my experience, usually music for these groups are extremely formulaic because it's tried and true. Not to say anime music is not but idol music? It's sticking to the template to another level.

The spreadsheet comment about the Ranma song made me realize that it has the exact same bass rhythm as my favorite song. Is this precisely what "swing" rhythm means, or is it a more general class of things? Are there any other anime songs with this exact same bass rhythm? (Hey, maybe I should make a contest seeking it!)

Yes that was swing, I think at 1/5? It's a bit too fast for me to follow without checking in an app. Usually you will find swing at 1/3 in the case of common anime pop.
Some examples I can think right off the top of my head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUIWP_KD7J4 is 1/4, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sY2YaoMYqk is 1/6. Mandatory Pretty anon summon.
Pulling back the BPM thing, swinging might mess up determining the tempo as well, especially in the case of 1/3 and 1/4 where it's very easy to triple or double/quadruple the tempo.

I'm downloading all Monster Musume and xi albums (and should update my fripSide stuff) to my other computer now, so I can listen to how they sound on real speakers. I often cannot hear any chords, bass, or low drums on computer monitor speakers. I might be identifying similar songs by the melody actually. Even if melodies are not the same, the chords seem to influence compatible melodies somehow.

Copying melodies is a huge huge issue because it's easy to say it's plagiarism. Now, you will still see familiar melodies here and there because some of them are quite iconic and sound good. But most of the time, it's the chord progressions that give the familiar feeling without outright shouting "HEY, I'M COPYING".
You will find 5 chord progressions extremely common in Japanese music.
- Anime progression, a.k.a. 王道進行 (I didn't use this name during the other giveaway because people can google it for songs): watered down without the sevenths, it would be 4 5 3m 6m. This is the chord progression that reigns absolute domination over JP music. More popular starting late 2000s, early 2010s.
- Canon progression: 1 5 6m 3m 4 1 4 5. Comes from Pachelbel's Canon. Extremely pleasant to listen to, have a general descending then ascending movement. More popular during the 2000s.
- Komuro progression: 6m 4 5 1. More popular during the earlier period (80s-90s).
- [url=https://youtu.be/v8oqbWrP1QY?t=40Just the two of us progression[/url]: IVmajor7 III7 vi7 v7 I7. This chord progression has a somewhat emo feeling. More popular around now, with all the kids listening to emo music. But I have to say this progression sounds really nice, though I'm still having trouble identifying it in music I listen to. One part is probably me not being the main audience targeted by the more popular songs written with this progression.
- The most common progression in the world: 1 5 6m 4 (and its siblings). As the name said, almost all pop songs use this thing, and Japan copies it to some extent. Popular period? All time. There's a reason why it's the most common progression in the world.

I'm downloading all Monster Musume and xi albums (and should update my fripSide stuff) to my other computer now, so I can listen to how they sound on real speakers. I often cannot hear any chords, bass, or low drums on computer monitor speakers. I might be identifying similar songs by the melody actually. Even if melodies are not the same, the chords seem to influence compatible melodies somehow.

xi is a really talented composer with a wide range of music genres, though his specialty is artcore, a genre probably invented by him. Might be a bit difficult to listen to if you are not used to faster music, since most of his songs hover around the 200bpm range.

I noticed that the structure (intro-verse-chorus pattern) of Monster Musume and Freedom Dive seem similar as well. If I have time, I might try to fuse the entire songs together to see if it works (extract sections of Freedom Dive and/or other songs and splice into Monster). Ass Spanker could probably do it faster and better than me.

Nothing as good for learning as doing it yourself. I used to make very jarring cuts until I realized I should have changed song keys and fading was a thing.

I suspect that fusing the beginnings of Hesitation Snow and Inuyasha might not work perfectly. Even though they sound extremely similar, something feels incompatible between them. This might be that Inuyasha is major key and Hesitation Snow is minor key. Maybe trying to fuse them could create an abomination to teach us a lesson in how major/minor key sounds different?

Try it out to see why! Yes, fusing a major key with its relative minor usually doesn't work.

Happy new year Ass Spanker
thanks for your gift!