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Mar 28 2010, 22:08
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palon
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It's not exactly rocket science. While I'm hardly part of a brain trust myself even I figured out about the other place before people started beating it over others heads. Reading all the posts sure has been amusing, though.
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Mar 28 2010, 22:09
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grgspunk
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Sigh... Dude, this isn't a legal issue--It's an advertising issue.
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Mar 28 2010, 22:10
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Beryl
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QUOTE(FourThirteen @ Mar 28 2010, 15:59) grgspunk has a point. (Please don't hit me) Tenboro probably could have worded that announcement differently to avoid some of the panic. But then, maybe that's not his style. I haven't spent enough time around the guy to know.
Panic is fun QUOTE(vicviper2 @ Mar 28 2010, 16:08) Move the servers to the Netherlands. One of the other sites I used to frequent did this and they have not had any problems with the morality Police. Especially since the law was amended as : "On October 1, 2002, the Netherlands introduced legislation (Bulletin of Acts and Decrees 470) which deemed "virtual child pornography" as illegal.[7] The laws appear to only outlaw "realistic images representing a minor engaged in a sexually explicit conduct," and hence lolicon is not included.[8]" TO REPEAT: LOLICON IS NOT A REALISTIC DEPICTION OF A MINOR IN THE EYES OF THE DUTCH. Translation: 3D depictions of minors is deemed to be Child Pornography, meaning CG and Photo Realastic images are considered Porn. Think about it!
It's not a question of law. Read the news post. The advertisers don't feel good about that content because of their "morals".
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Mar 28 2010, 22:10
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FourThirteen
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QUOTE(vicviper2 @ Mar 28 2010, 16:08) Move the servers to the Netherlands. One of the other sites I used to frequent did this and they have not had any problems with the morality Police. Especially since the law was amended as : "On October 1, 2002, the Netherlands introduced legislation (Bulletin of Acts and Decrees 470) which deemed "virtual child pornography" as illegal.[7] The laws appear to only outlaw "realistic images representing a minor engaged in a sexually explicit conduct," and hence lolicon is not included.[8]" TO REPEAT: LOLICON IS NOT A REALISTIC DEPICTION OF A MINOR IN THE EYES OF THE DUTCH. Translation: 3D depictions of minors is deemed to be Child Pornography, meaning CG and Photo Realastic images are considered Porn. Think about it!
I can understand not reading this entire thread, but one would think you could at least read the announcement. This has nothing to do with legality: the advertisers simply don't want this stuff on the same site as their ads. EDIT: Dammit. My ninja is weak. This post has been edited by FourThirteen: Mar 28 2010, 22:11
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Mar 28 2010, 22:14
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KithKanan
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QUOTE(BunBun @ Mar 28 2010, 13:10) Panic is fun
Panic attacks aren't, however. This site has never caused those for me, thankfully. *puts on Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses* (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Mar 28 2010, 22:16
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Beryl
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Imma hop in my Heart of Gold and gtfo now.
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Mar 28 2010, 22:17
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KithKanan
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QUOTE(BunBun @ Mar 28 2010, 13:16) Imma hop in my Heart of Gold and gtfo now.
Time to die, nerd boy?
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Mar 28 2010, 22:21
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Beryl
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QUOTE(KithKanan @ Mar 28 2010, 16:17) Time to die, nerd boy?
That's not where my name comes from =(
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Mar 28 2010, 22:23
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KithKanan
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QUOTE(BunBun @ Mar 28 2010, 13:21) That's not where my name comes from =(
Oh, well... then I do apologize, since I'm sure you get that all... the... fricking... time... >_<; Even though I haven't read that comic in about 7 years. ^^; As an alternative and more relevant possibility, is your name taken from: (IMG:[ tfwiki.net] http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/0/0c/Comic_Bun_Bun_logo.jpg) This post has been edited by KithKanan: Mar 28 2010, 22:26
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Mar 28 2010, 22:26
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mr.scotty
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now i hope the people don´t use the EXpunge option ------ btw this site is the best HENTAI ... .ORG site i know ^^
This post has been edited by mr.scotty: Mar 28 2010, 22:27
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Mar 28 2010, 22:41
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Mr. Dude
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cant we just find new advertisers? because if content gets removed then the interaction on this websites plummets and the website wont be as expensive as before. or on a weekly/monthly basis we re-upload all the removed contents and the administrator just tell the advertisers "we are removing the content as best as we can but the process is a long and complicated one" just like what Google is doing, it takes them ages to remove something and it takes like 5 mints to re-upload the same thing that was just removed. so basically we have all the galleries back but they keep being removed and re-uploaded
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Mar 28 2010, 22:42
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kamui574
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QUOTE(kgikz @ Mar 28 2010, 21:49) This is the Beginning of the End. Sorry.
This, but to move it to reason over panic you need to elaborate. So I will: The thing is, aside from the standpoint of lolicons, most multichapter mangas feature atleast 1 loli/shota/borderline character. If they are still open, they are now in danger in the future as soon as the morality police finds something, and this mess just gives them a basis to believe youll fix it in the future. Pretttty much I hope the lolicon galleries are being stored for when the problems are resolved before it causes a mess of other problems such as: Lowered popularity of the site, and creating demand for another site that allows this. Which means a hit to sponsors, a hit to donations, and then this site is in a hole. so this is a problem that HAS to be fixed, a hentai site cannot exist underclose observation from the moral police. The only solution I can think of is to talk it over with sponsors, as for any other fix, I dont know.EDIT: Or i[t could be close to a certain day, and this totally got me. This post has been edited by kamui574: Mar 28 2010, 22:49
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Mar 28 2010, 22:46
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Msgr. Radixius
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QUOTE(mr.scotty @ Mar 28 2010, 15:26) now i hope the people don´t use the EXpunge option ------ btw this site is the best HENTAI ... .ORG site i know ^^
I don't think it's big enough to be ironic, yet.
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Mar 28 2010, 22:48
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Panuru
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QUOTE(mr.scotty @ Mar 28 2010, 15:26) now i hope the people don´t use the EXpunge option ------ btw this site is the best HENTAI ... .ORG site i know ^^
We've already kneecapped subtlety, blown its head off, and raped the widow. This is just poking the body with a stick (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Mar 28 2010, 22:49
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mr.scotty
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QUOTE(Mr.dude1234 @ Mar 28 2010, 22:41) cant we just find new advertisers? because if content gets removed then the interaction on this websites plummets and the website wont be as expensive as before. or on a weekly/monthly basis we re-upload all the removed contents and the administrator just tell the advertisers "we are removing the content as best as we can but the process is a long and complicated one" just like what Google is doing, it takes them ages to remove something and it takes like 5 mints to re-upload the same thing that was just removed. so basically we have all the galleries back but they keep being removed and re-uploaded
Tenboro said : "I spent the last day or so improving the filtering solution" so nothing is completly removed yet on g.e-HENTAI.ORG This post has been edited by mr.scotty: Mar 28 2010, 22:50
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Mar 28 2010, 22:52
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KithKanan
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QUOTE(Panuru @ Mar 28 2010, 13:48) We've already kneecapped subtlety, blown its head off, and raped the widow. This is just poking the body with a stick (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) There is no subtlety. Only Zuel.
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Mar 28 2010, 23:04
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mr.scotty
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QUOTE(KithKanan @ Mar 28 2010, 22:52) There is no subtlety. Only Zuel. right (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) you can never give enough hints
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Mar 28 2010, 23:09
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KithKanan
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QUOTE(mr.scotty @ Mar 28 2010, 14:04) right (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) you can never give enough hints ... for some people to get them, anyway. ^_-
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Mar 28 2010, 23:10
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Linkman70000000
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QUOTE(Dali @ Mar 28 2010, 20:55) I drew this picture to express my feeling over how ridiculous this is: (IMG:[ i277.photobucket.com] http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk54/lizardianguy/hurrr/lolwut.jpg) Oh no! I'm such a monster! Please... Anyway, sorry to hear that those idiots are giving you trouble. Good luck managing this. We're gonna have to delete that. It's clearly a realistic portrayal of a young boy with an exposed penis. See G.E? You've caused another pedophile to reveal his true, malicious side of evil intent. This post has been edited by Linkman70000000: Mar 28 2010, 23:14
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Mar 28 2010, 23:21
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Msgr. Radixius
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QUOTE(KithKanan @ Mar 28 2010, 15:52) There is no subtlety. Only Zuel.
It's Zuul :<
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