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Mar 28 2010, 03:26
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BradRepko
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QUOTE(grgspunk @ Mar 27 2010, 18:23) By the way, Tenboro said that he had to pay $46000 in 2009 and that donations were less than half of that, right?
Then I asked myself, "what donations?" and "how do you donate to the site?" Then I checked the front page and compared it to the gallery. The front page does have the donation info, but from my experience, but there's nothing like that in the gallery section. I think the problem with a lack of donations may be due to a lack of accessibility.
From my experience, many people go to the galleries directly via a forum/blog link without going to the front page--That means many people who go to the site don't even need to visit the front page, and they don't even know about the donation page. How exactly do you expect people to donate if not a whole lot of people know where they have to go to donate?
Shouldn't there be a "Donation Info" link on the gallery section? You know, alongside the buttons such as "my home", "upload galleries", "information", etc?
*blinks* That... honestly doesn't sound like a bad idea. Good work, GTSspunk. QUOTE Don't get angry at them, dude. Remember, there are uploaders amongst the complainers. I don't think lose the collections they worked so hard to collect and post on this site. Doesn't matter. Tenboro runs this site as a labor of love, it's his baby, and other people have no right to complain to him since he's hurting from this worse then all of us. It's his dream the advertisers are crushing, not ours. If people download collections to this gallery and no longer have access, then maybe they should think about keeping those files held backup on there computer, or in a flash drive or something. It's not Tenboro's fault if they deleted it from there computer after loading it here. This post has been edited by BradRepko: Mar 28 2010, 03:29
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Mar 28 2010, 03:26
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shunsin
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hmm seems incest was deleted or blocked or something. oh well...dammit
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Mar 28 2010, 03:27
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RakkaKaze
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I'd like to agree with this.
I personally haven't accessed the main site since around the time it finally left the grasp of HKey. There were some doujin WAY back that could only be found on that older site that were lost and I just said screw it until I found the gallery some time later.
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Mar 28 2010, 03:39
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grgspunk
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QUOTE(BradRepko @ Mar 27 2010, 20:26) Doesn't matter. Tenboro runs this site as a labor of love, it's his baby, and other people have no right to complain to him since he's hurting from this worse then all of us. It's his dream the advertisers are crushing, not ours. If people download collections to this gallery and no longer have access, then maybe they should think about keeping those files held backup on there computer, or in a flash drive or something. It's not Tenboro's fault if they deleted it from there computer after loading it here.
Doesn't make him any less accountable for inconveniencing hundreds of users, dude. Do you really think people would be willing to "back up" their files in a day and age where people are paranoid that someone might stumble on their computer? Really, if advertisers were that much of an issue, he should've planned out a way to get out of this beforehand or find more advertisers. At least some sort of warning email for all the uploaders would've been nice, as if that were the case, people may have been able to re-download their stuff before they realize that it's been "blocked". Hell, we don't even know for sure if all the money he makes from ads actually goes to the site or not--It's not like he posts financial statements every year or anything like that. Why shouldn't users complain for the inconvenience they go through if their mere prescence actually contributes to the money that goes to the site? E-hentai wouldn't even exist if it weren't for all the visitors that go there and help contribute to the ad revenue. This post has been edited by grgspunk: Mar 28 2010, 03:42
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Mar 28 2010, 03:41
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Yunigen
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I'm just wondering now though, what should be the trend of uploading? should uploaders upload loli/shota etc., get there galleries expunged, so that it gets viewed on the other site? Because I'm gonna argue that the now "banned" stuff makes a bulk of H-mangas and translations (meaning uploads are gonna be slow if only legal material is upped).
Also, I am I the only one who finds it wierd that the lesser fetishes got banned rather than the more extreme ones, like guro or scat? Such a strange turn of trends, considering 2 girls 1 cup got a huge amount of heat when it was released in the internet...
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Mar 28 2010, 03:43
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BradRepko
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QUOTE(grgspunk @ Mar 27 2010, 18:39) Doesn't make him any less accountable for inconveniencing hundreds of users, dude. Do you really think people would be willing to "back up" their files in a day and age where people are paranoid that someone might stumble on their computer? Really, if advertisers were that much of an issue, he should've planned out a way to get out of this beforehand or find more advertisers. At least some sort of warning email for all the uploaders would've been nice, as if that were the case, people may have been able to re-download their stuff before they realize that it's been "blocked".
Hell, we don't even know for sure if all the money he makes from ads actually goes to the site or not--It's not like he posts financial statements every year or anything like that. Why shouldn't users complain for the inconvenience they go through if their mere prescence actually contributes to the money that goes to the site? E-hentai wouldn't even exist if it weren't for all the visitors that go there and help contribute to the ad revenue.
You can get the fuck out too, you know that? You lowlife, you don't have any sympathy for what Tenboro's been put through, do you? Get out of my sight, you disgust me. This post has been edited by BradRepko: Mar 28 2010, 03:44
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Mar 28 2010, 03:44
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grgspunk
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QUOTE(Yunigen @ Mar 27 2010, 20:41) I'm just wondering now though, what should be the trend of uploading? should uploaders upload loli/shota etc., get there galleries expunged, so that it gets viewed on the other site? Because I'm gonna argue that the now "banned" stuff makes a bulk of H-mangas and translations (meaning uploads are gonna be slow if only legal material is upped).
Anything that gets uploaded with the "loli/shota" tag gets transferred from the site and put on the other site. I don't see this being that big of a problem for the time being, assuming people actually realize that they aren't being permanently deleted.
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Mar 28 2010, 03:45
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NoNameNoBlame
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QUOTE(grgspunk @ Mar 28 2010, 03:39) Do you really think people would be willing to "back up" their files in a day and age where people are paranoid that someone might stumble on their computer? Why wouldn't they be?
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Mar 28 2010, 03:46
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grgspunk
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QUOTE(BradRepko @ Mar 27 2010, 20:43) You can get the fuck out too, you know that?
Make me, asshat. And if you did, along with everyone else who's bound to bitch, the site wouldn't last very long. I help the site live by visiting the place and referring others to visit here--You really think "complainers" like me have no valid reasons to be angry at such a rash decision? This post has been edited by grgspunk: Mar 28 2010, 03:52
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Mar 28 2010, 03:47
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k9k
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whelp, there goes most of my interest in this site
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Mar 28 2010, 03:50
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NoNameNoBlame
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This thread is a concentrated mixture of stupidity and fail. It is a thing of grotesque beauty.
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Mar 28 2010, 03:50
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BradRepko
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QUOTE(grgspunk @ Mar 27 2010, 18:46) Make me, asshat. And if you did, along with everyone else who's bound to bitch, the site wouldn't last very long. I help the site live by visiting the place and telling others to do it--You really think "complainers" like me have no valid reasons to be angry?
No, I don't. You see, this is Tenboro's site, and I happen to think he does a five star job running the place. Don't get to cocky and think that because you got some people to join this gives you any rights. Tenboro is the one who goes through the trouble of maintaining the site and making sure the servers and domain are paid for. You're just a moocher who is bitching because his free scraps are being taken from him, scraps you only had in the first place because of Tenboro's dedication to this place.
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Mar 28 2010, 03:51
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Stedman75
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I shall admit that I didnt read past post 50, but this news is saddening...
asking for a £1 donation for a Years access is tottally a cool idea, and MOORE than worth it, as already stated many people do not have access to online cashflow or otherwise money not from parents, but lots and lots will and do.
I think this would be a fab idea!
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Mar 28 2010, 03:51
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Mant
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QUOTE(BradRepko @ Mar 27 2010, 19:43) You can get the fuck out too, you know that? You lowlife, you don't have any sympathy for what Tenboro's been put through, do you? Get out of my sight, you disgust me.
Cool now, criticism is fine as long as its constructive. Also, when something has problems the correct answer is staying and see if they can be fixed, not just "take them or leave".
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Mar 28 2010, 03:54
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Ratio
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QUOTE(grgspunk @ Mar 28 2010, 03:44) Anything that gets uploaded with the "loli/shota" tag gets transferred from the site and put on the other site. I don't see this being that big of a problem for the time being, assuming people actually realize that they aren't being permanently deleted.
So what's stopping people from just viewing the other site, which has no ads?
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Mar 28 2010, 03:59
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grgspunk
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QUOTE(BradRepko @ Mar 27 2010, 20:50) No, I don't. You see, this is Tenboro's site, and I happen to think he does a five star job running the place. Don't get to cocky and think that because you got some people to join this gives you any rights. Tenboro is the one who goes through the trouble of maintaining the site and making sure the servers and domain are paid for. You're just a moocher who is bitching because his free scraps are being taken from him, scraps you only had in the first place because of Tenboro's dedication to this place. Shows how much a prick like you knows. He may have been doing a five-star job, but I fail to see that as some excuse to turn face when he screws up? Considering the five-star job he does, wouldn't it be at least somewhat reasonable expect him to anticipate something like this and have a way out without having major purges like this? You don't seem to understand the fact that his "scraps" that I oh-so-like to mooch on belongs to "someone else". Why the hell shouldn't people complain if they were suddenly getting taken off? Why the hell shouldn't people complain if he has the willingness to submit to any form of censorship? You really expect me to care about his own problems if my own stuff, as well as that of others, is in danger of getting deleted? You really expect me to defend his decision with rose-colored glasses if there's a major problem going on? Newsflash: EVERYONE is accountable for censorship, especially the one who submits to demands for it. Seriously, as good of a job as he's done in the past, it did NOT have to turn out like this. QUOTE So what's stopping people from just viewing the other site, which has no ads? Nobody knows about it yet. This post has been edited by grgspunk: Mar 28 2010, 04:03
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Mar 28 2010, 04:02
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Wayward_Vagabond
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Since most of my favorite galleries have been deleted, g.e-hentai.org is now dead to me. Since I'm not using that portion of the site anymore, I don't see running h@home as a good use of my bandwidth, or hard drive space anymore. Hello 60kps of upload, and 20gb of hard drive space.
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Mar 28 2010, 04:03
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BradRepko
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QUOTE(grgspunk @ Mar 27 2010, 18:59) Shows how much a prick like you knows. He may have been doing a five-star job, but I fail to see that as some excuse to turn face when he screws up? Considering the five-star job he does, wouldn't it be at least somewhat reasonable expect him to anticipate something like this and have a way out without having major purges like this? You don't seem to understand the fact that his "scraps" that I oh-so-like to mooch on belongs to "someone else". Why the hell shouldn't people complain if they were suddenly getting taken off? Why the hell shouldn't people complain if he has the willingness to submit to any form of censorship? You really expect me to care about his own problems if my own stuff, as well as that of others, is in danger of getting deleted?
You really expect me to look through this whole thing in rose-colored glasses whenever there's a major problem at hand? Newsflash: EVERYONE is accountable for censorship.
You know, your rants would be a whole lot more believable if I hadn't already dedicated my life to the fight against banning lolicon and shotacon. The difference between us is that I have enough faith in Tenboro to know that he is doing everything he can to try and stop this and that he didn't come to this decision lightly. I'm also educated enough to know that if he didn't do this right now, he could face the entire site being shut down in a matter of months. It's better to have loli and shota banned temporarily than have the whole site shut down permanently. Loath the advertisers and the religious nuts who did this, not the man for whom they conspired against. This post has been edited by BradRepko: Mar 28 2010, 04:05
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Mar 28 2010, 04:06
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Wayward_Vagabond
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Brad, you've "contributed*" to this thread enough, now just stop with your damn rants. *I'm stretching the meaning of this word quite a bit, even when used sarcastically.
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Mar 28 2010, 04:08
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Msgr. Radixius
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QUOTE(grgspunk @ Mar 27 2010, 20:59) Why the hell shouldn't people complain if he has the willingness to submit to any form of censorship?
Why should they? What does it help? The complaints are not constructive in the slightest. It's all a bunch of "You owe me this because I did these things for you on your site that you code and that you maintain because I took up hard disk space on your servers." That's like a child going to another child's Easter basket, grabbing a chocolate bunny, giving it to the other child as a gift and expecting something in return. The world doesn't work that way, never has, never will. And who's to say they even gave Tenboro warning in regards to this action? There might have been a 24 hour time limit he had to observe or they'd cut all funding to the site, ergo bringing everything to a screeching halt instead of keeping under the radar to figure out some way to get your precious kiddie fuck pictures back. Tenboro doesn't owe you shit, because you don't deserve it for just showing up to the party, and you're not proving anything by your useless bitching, and I will claim that it's useless as there is no use for it. Maybe settle the fuck down for five goddamned minutes and think for the first time in the last twenty four hours. Maybe an alternate recourse wasn't taken because there wasn't one at the time.
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