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Actually, that is NOT what the expunge option is for.

Well that's what I thought.. what was it for? (guess i shoulda come here sooner eh?

Also I don't blame Tenbooro for this at all ! He's doing what he must.

But please... rally your site!

For all those saying this isn't a big loss, you are delusional. First of all a lot of people will leave immediately, there was a thread on 4chan before and pretty much everyone agreed that E-hentai without loli / shouta is not worth going to. So you're already losing a strong following as I know for a fact that many people on 4chan often link to, promote, and visit this site. Another problem is that you just gave the moralist and advertisers control. Now they know all they have to do is complain and you're gone, this won't be the end I gurantee they will complain about scat, violence, rape, drugs, tentacles, monsters, incest, etc... and you won't be able to bounce back. People already can see this and will leave this site because you are sending the message that moralist run this site. Not only are you losing free promotion, visitors, hits, galleries, and dignity but now other sites will pop up that offer loli and easily be able to compete with and squash this site. As you said business is business, and that holds true for both sides. I love this site, but if you no longer offer what I want I'll go elsewhere. I predict your hits will drop by the millions this year.

My solution, get new advertisers. Your site boasts great stats, you could easily get new advertisers who don't care about your content. Sites like notfourchan hosts loli content and have server costs that exceed 30,000 a year yet they manage to stay alive on ads and have even more hits / visitors that this site. I suggest going to loli sites like notfourchan and getting those advertisers.

...Consider this the whiners thread, Mr. Daniels, I'm pretty sure the forums users, while important to this site, couldn't keep it going by themselves, even with all rape, tentacle, furry, guro, sodomy, removed, too
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Of course the forum users account for a minority of site users/viewiers. Even if some of the forum users believe a paid system or x or y or z is a good idea, that doesn't mean the majority of the site's traffic will.

in a nutshell, if something major is changed because of this, the site will lose viewers and probably go down the toilet.

Perhaps we should have expected this coming as soon as that Gallery called "Repent" came up, with a single picture of Jesus on the Cross. Didn't think anything of it... stated an opinion... in the inappropriate place.. got expunged.

But that should let you know.. besides the non-h mangas and doujin.. well nothing about HENTAI is "moral", not by those standards. Don't expect them to be satisfied... they want it all. They want us all doing what they want.

I'm telling ya now.. the next holocaust will be by a fanatical pat robertson christian taliban burning all the heretics and unbelievers (bet the homaseshuals will be on the grill too :/ )

You can actually see the hidden galleries if you find the fjords they were pining for. Tenboro said so, don't bother him about it.

maybe e-hentai admin should made a new rule regarding this matter.

such as exclusive contents (e.a : loli) for buying a membership here.

I believe most of us spend money to buy WoW stuff etc, and it's our time to help e-hentai !

Of course the forum users account for a minority of site users/viewiers.

Yet, they are probably the group with the highest rate of donations to the site.

Even if some of the forum users believe a paid system or x or y or z is a good idea, that doesn't mean the majority of the site's traffic will.

Yes, because a majority wants something for nothing. Servers have costs. If ads aren't covering the costs, and people aren't willing to cover the costs, who will?

My solution, get new advertisers. Your site boasts great stats, you could easily get new advertisers who don't care about your content. Sites like notfourchan hosts loli content and have server costs that exceed 30,000 a year yet they manage to stay alive on ads and have even more hits / visitors that this site. I suggest going to loli sites like notfourchan and getting those advertisers.

That site has been up and down more than a Vietnamese prostitute, but I'll look into the ad hosts they use.

Yet, they are probably the group with the highest rate of donations to the site.

"Probably"? More like, the group with the only donations.

Yet, they are probably the group with the highest rate of donations to the site.
Yes, because a majority wants something for nothing. Servers have costs. If ads aren't covering the costs, and people aren't willing to cover the costs, who will?

1. However, if you restricted the site traffic to only those who donate, the site would basically be dead. Free. anonymous viewers are the lifeblood of image galleries.

2. Different advertisers.

Yet, they are probably the group with the highest rate of donations to the site.
Yes, because a majority wants something for nothing. Servers have costs. If ads aren't covering the costs, and people aren't willing to cover the costs, who will?

I totally agree with this as well. But we simply don't think about it. Not the bunch with the most initiative, but we can be rallied.

It's not necessarily that we don't care.. well actually it's exactly that, doesn't necessarily mean we won't pay.

"Probably"? More like, the group with the only donations.

I firmly believe that if its to keep this site at his 100% people would gladly donate a monthly fee. I know i would, and i dont think im this unique so that im the only one.

What i want to say is, let's not give up, that would be really sad.

1. However, if you restricted the site traffic to only those who donate, the site would basically be dead. Free. anonymous viewers are the lifeblood of image galleries.

2. Different advertisers.

Have to agree with 1. here ( 2. that is up to Tenbooro)

It should be made a clear option and very loud call on the g.e-hentai.org page. That's spurred me to donate to Wikipedia, Encyclopedia Dramatica. AMV.org, and just by realizing galleries (a number that were tagged, blocked improperly ) were missing here..

Have to agree with 1. here ( 2. that is up to Tenbooro)

It should be made a clear option and very loud call on the g.e-hentai.org page. That's spurred me to donate to Wikipedia, Encyclopedia Dramatica. AMV.org, and just by realizing galleries (a number that were tagged, blocked improperly ) were missing here..

Doing that might spur some people to donate, but it's not going to turn every single site visitor into a donator.

Some people can't transfer money online or don't want to, or can't read English and wouldn't be affected by an anouncement anyway...

but if it gets more people to donate, that would be good... to be honest I never noticed a donate button here.

I firmly believe that if its to keep this site at his 100% people would gladly donate a monthly fee. I know i would, and i dont think im this unique so that im the only one.

What i want to say is, let's not give up, that would be really sad.

This. I would have no problem donating $5, $10, even $15 a month if it kept this site running the way it is supposed to be run, by Tenboro not moralfags. I honestly believe that yes this site would lose hits if it became a membership site, but the amount of hits lost would be a blessing compared to the amount that will be lost if all the loli, shouta, incest, etc... were gone. I think this site could survive on a combination of membership payments and ads with out any problem from moralists.

This. I would have no problem donating $5, $10, even $15 a month if it kept this site running the way it is supposed to be run, by Tenboro not moralfags. I honestly believe that yes this site would lose hits if it became a membership site, but the amount of hits lost would be a blessing compared to the amount that will be lost if all the loli, shouta, incest, etc... were gone. I think this site could survive on a combination of membership payments and ads with out any problem from moralists.

It won't be a blessing when the site loses most of its viewer base to free sites, and this one fades into obscurity. Eventualy it would get so small it wouldn't be worth donating to.

Again, free viewers are the lifeblood of image galleries.

This post has been edited by 51stafmonsta: Mar 27 2010, 22:50

@Tenboro

#1 The ad providers at norfourchan are rather aids, but yes they do not care about loli/shota etc and they pay the server costs no problem. The up/downtime in the past was mainly the shitty board script it was running before and before that something happened to the domain. Again though, this ad provider really sucks, but they don't care about that type of content and the ad frame is easily enough blocked.

#2 You don't have to use paypal or w/e as your payment system. You could setup your own payment system like newzbin.com has for example. I think there are both US & British banks which will setup such payment systems for you. Then YOU will be in control of your own payment system and won't get jacked like paypal would do to you.

#3 You don't even have to make it a "pay site" and still force money out of people to an extent. You say if every visitor donated a tenth of a cent it would pay the bills. So what if one out of 10,000 users donated $1 a month? Also It would be fairly trivial to limit anonymous users to 25KB/sec or something, thus allowing them to still view for free but just at much lower speed. The Linux kernel already has such functionality built in (not sure which OS you use), then you could just give donators higher QoS/exemption from the limit when they log in (temporarily give their IP a higher level of service until they log out). Plus is anyone going to bitch if you make the minimum donation something very low like $5 for 5 months of no limit?

#4 Why can't you setup a separate no ads site at say "l.e-hentai.org" or something and try running it off of donations only or with the ad provider notfourchan uses. Then only the loli/shota section would be plagued with the AIDS ads from that medium and the other galleries wouldn't be affected.

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It won't be a blessing when the site loses most of its viewer base to free sites, and this one fades into obscurity. Evently it will get so small it wouldn't be worth donating to.

Again, free viewers are the lifeblood of image galleries.

Then what about if the payment was to get access to loli/shota/bestiality/incest/NEXTONEWEKNOWWILLCOME content?

I'm not saying that if you dont pay you cant even enter, what i say is that normal free people could access normal content and upload everything, paying members could access "normal" content and the banned one. After all its not like things got deleted, they are just filtered.

Another problem is that you just gave the moralist and advertisers control. Now they know all they have to do is complain and you're gone, this won't be the end I gurantee they will complain about scat, violence, rape, drugs, tentacles, monsters, incest, etc... and you won't be able to bounce back.

I agree, this is the beginning of the end. The next thing to go will probably be Sailormoon type stuff where the characters have obviously been aged over 18 in the doujinshi, but according to the show they're only 16 so they'll be removed. Why stop there? Someday all porn will be the missionary position and only between married couples. Then we can get rid of that too because looking at those couples causes us to lust after someone else's wife. Is that an exaggeration? We'll just have to wait and see. To me, once you start protecting the rights of fictional characters, you've already lost it.

My suggestion is that you make a list of the advertisers who are pretending to have morals, so we can openly boycott them.

Doing that might spur some people to donate, but it's not going to turn every single site visitor into a donator.

Some people can't transfer money online or don't want to, or can't read English and wouldn't be affected by an anouncement anyway...

but if it gets more people to donate, that would be good... to be honest I never noticed a donate button here.

The amount of people that visit here I wouldn't think we'd need that many?

@Tenboro

#1 The ad providers at norfourchan are rather aids, but yes they do not care about loli/shota etc and they pay the server costs no problem. The up/downtime in the past was mainly the shitty board script it was running before and before that something happened to the domain. Again though, this ad provider really sucks, but they don't care about that type of content and the ad frame is easily enough blocked.

#2 You don't have to use paypal or w/e as your payment system. You could setup your own payment system like newzbin.com has for example. I think there are both US & British banks which will setup such payment systems for you. Then YOU will be in control of your own payment system and won't get jacked like paypal would do to you.

#3 You don't even have to make it a "pay site" and still force money out of people to an extent. You say if every visitor donated a tenth of a cent it would pay the bills. So what if one out of 10,000 users donated $1 a month? Also It would be fairly trivial to limit anonymous users to 25KB/sec or something, thus allowing them to still view for free but just at much lower speed. The Linux kernel already has such functionality built in (not sure which OS you use), then you could just give donators higher QoS/exemption from the limit when they log in (temporarily give their IP a higher level of service until they log out). Plus is anyone going to bitch if you make the minimum donation something very low like $5 for 5 months of no limit?

1. no comment

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3. Crippling the site in any way would make it less attractive for free users. They'd go somewhere with no restrictions.