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Mar 27 2010, 21:43
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Mant
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Mar 27 2010, 13:38) They were "fine" in the sense that you were able to be a freeloading jackass with no repercussions. The servers always had to be paid for.
Exactly. Things seemed to already be managed. If there are now problems, people is willing to step up and help solve them.
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Mar 27 2010, 21:46
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Mant
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QUOTE(Kir @ Mar 27 2010, 13:43) Oh no! Not my precious loli doujins! Now a world without loli is not worth living! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) On a serious note, even loli/shota materials are removed from search, the original source still exists. Guess you have to look for them somewhere other than e-hentai? E-hentai is still an excellent database for doujins / h-cg sets, it's just a small sacrifice to keep this site alive. Sacrifice to censorship is never small. It opens doors that should stay closed. And in this case it also brings a lot of collateral damage to unrelated content and galleries.
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Mar 27 2010, 21:48
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mariposa0
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Boy the hypocrisy in this thread is overwhelming.
"Nevermind, it's just that nasty loli that it's gone, we can live without it"
Almost all the galleries on the all-time top list have already been deleted, including the ones in the top positions. If they were that popular, someone must have liked them, despite what people in here are saying.
To sum it up, this means no more Kisaragi Gunma, no more Yamatogawa, and certainly no more Hanaharu Naruco. I mean, I understand the situation, but there must be a way around this.
The way things are now, this is a death sentence for the Galleries, because most doujins/manga depict characters who are or may reasonably be under age to a degree. The gallery count is down to 102,937, and more will follow as there are still some 'newly forbidden' galleries around.
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Mar 27 2010, 21:49
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Kidays
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QUOTE(mariposa0 @ Mar 27 2010, 15:48)
The way things are now, this is a death sentence for the Galleries, because most doujins/manga depict characters who are or may reasonably be under age to a degree. The gallery count is down to 102,937, and more will follow as there are still some 'newly forbidden' galleries around.
what was the gallery count before?
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Mar 27 2010, 21:51
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51stafmonsta
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well I'm about ready to pack up my stuff and leave
the whole reason I went here was because everything was free, and it had about everything
and I'm sure lots of other people think the same way
so, if a paid service is made. I'll leave
if loli is gone... I'll leave
there are lots of other sites that have loli, if they can survive then so can ehentai.
advertisers... herpa derp
This post has been edited by 51stafmonsta: Mar 27 2010, 21:57
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Mar 27 2010, 21:52
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QUOTE(Kidays @ Mar 27 2010, 20:49) what was the gallery count before? The count of all galleries ever uploaded is now around 221,000, but nearly all of the missing ones were expunged for various reasons or deleted on request of copyright owner or as real child porn, or similar reasons. As Tenboro said in first post, not so many are missing.
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Mar 27 2010, 21:52
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LOL
My Otaku No Megami san gallery is gone forever...i think it's for some shota tag.
LOL LOL LOL
Again, imho, the problem is not about the single loli/shota/bestiality ban. It's about the ABUSE of it...
It's too much leave at personal tagging: just one page, an older woman with some loli artwork or something else, and PUFF....your gallery is gone.
(my english suck...)
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Mar 27 2010, 21:53
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mariposa0
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QUOTE(Kidays @ Mar 27 2010, 22:49) what was the gallery count before?
From the first post: "It's not *that* bad - it cuts out about 30k of the 150k currently active galleries." I guess it was an underestimation... Again, I understand that the admins aren't doing this because they want to, but there must be something the community can do. I for one even ignored the existence of a donation page until today.
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Mar 27 2010, 21:54
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Panuru
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QUOTE(51stafmonsta @ Mar 27 2010, 14:51) well I'm about ready to pack up my stuff and leave
Losing your zero galleries, zero donations, and single post will be a sore blow.
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Mar 27 2010, 21:55
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For all the people who have all the answers: sure, if you can come up with about $5k a month to cover upkeep and the occasional new server, I don't have any problems telling the advertisers to shove it. If not, well, shove it. We could probably easily raise $5k in a donation drive. Doing it every month, consistently? Not gonna happen. You can piss and whine about censorship all you want, but the site doesn't run on rainbows and unicorns, our hosts only accept cold hard cash.
Another point in the story is that payment processors are for the most part even more squeamish than advertisers, so we wouldn't be able to put up any form of payment option with the lolis still in place.
Third point, moderators can see everything that goes away, and put it back. So there is no "abuse" that causes galleries that shouldn't be removed to go away.
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Mar 27 2010, 21:58
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QUOTE(Panuru @ Mar 27 2010, 15:40) Get all of your health care in the emergency room, do you?
Really ? There are the obvious repercussions to that... I guess this would be like paying full to have your ass snapped back into place, like $30k compared to a $12k bill with insurance.. at least that's the closest analogy I can think of, but then you came up with it. thing is this is quite rectifiable.
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Mar 27 2010, 21:58
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Mant
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So, death that is.
Or at least utter degradation.
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Mar 27 2010, 22:00
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badrusseu
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The only problem with the "resonably of age" thing is that it's (likley) as defined by the advertisers, who have made they're predisposition toward this sort of content quite clear.... I just don't think they will be very lenient on the content thats allowed on the site
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Mar 27 2010, 22:01
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51stafmonsta
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Mar 27 2010, 15:55) For all the people who have all the answers: sure, if you can come up with about $5k a month to cover upkeep and the occasional new server, I don't have any problems telling the advertisers to shove it. If not, well, shove it. We could probably easily raise $5k in a donation drive. Doing it every month, consistently? Not gonna happen. You can piss and whine about censorship all you want, but the site doesn't run on rainbows and unicorns, our hosts only accept cold hard cash.
Another point in the story is that payment processors are for the most part even more squeamish than advertisers, so we wouldn't be able to put up any form of payment option with the lolis still in place.
so what about all the other sites with loli that have to pay hosts? Some of them are free, and I don't think the money is coming from nowhere. Obviously some advertisers don't care.
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Mar 27 2010, 22:01
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darknessreaver
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Mar 27 2010, 15:55) For all the people who have all the answers: sure, if you can come up with about $5k a month to cover upkeep and the occasional new server, I don't have any problems telling the advertisers to shove it. If not, well, shove it. We could probably easily raise $5k in a donation drive. Doing it every month, consistently? Not gonna happen. You can piss and whine about censorship all you want, but the site doesn't run on rainbows and unicorns, our hosts only accept cold hard cash.
Another point in the story is that payment processors are for the most part even more squeamish than advertisers, so we wouldn't be able to put up any form of payment option with the lolis still in place.
Third point, moderators can see everything that goes away, and put it back. So there is no "abuse" that causes galleries that shouldn't be removed to go away.
Crap, from the Godless Liberal himself... is there really nothing we can do? I still want the message about the donation, btw :3
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Mar 27 2010, 22:02
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look to all the people bitching and moaning you can either love E-Hentai or leave it if you don't like how it is run than go away!!!!!!!
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Mar 27 2010, 22:02
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51stafmonsta
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QUOTE(Panuru @ Mar 27 2010, 15:54) Losing your zero galleries, zero donations, and single post will be a sore blow.
so you'd insult the majority of the website's users too? I don't think a few people that have post counts account for the majority of the site traffic. viewers are what the site was made for, derp also, more people coming through the site make more money from ads, so more people here, the better. This post has been edited by 51stafmonsta: Mar 27 2010, 22:03
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Mar 27 2010, 22:03
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Mant
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QUOTE(mr daniels @ Mar 27 2010, 14:02) look to all the people bitching and moaning you can either love E-Hentai or leave it if you don't like how it is run than go away!!!!!!!
Or do your best and try to improve it.
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Mar 27 2010, 22:04
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Panuru
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QUOTE(51stafmonsta @ Mar 27 2010, 15:02) so you'd insult the majority of the website's users too? I don't think a few people that have post counts accuot for the majority of viewers.
There's nothing wrong at all with free users. If you'll note what I quoted, I was wondering exactly what "stuff" you were going to remove. This post has been edited by Panuru: Mar 27 2010, 22:06
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Mar 27 2010, 22:04
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QUOTE(51stafmonsta @ Mar 27 2010, 21:01) so what about all the other sites with loli that have to pay hosts? Some of them are free, and I don't think the money is coming from nowhere. Obviously some advertisers don't care.
Those sites aren't billion-monthly-hits sites. It takes a lot of hardware to push that. And our advertisers "didn't care" as well, for several years, until we became big enough that idiots started pestering them.
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