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Jul 3 2021, 05:11
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pooaa
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QUOTE(Shank @ Jul 3 2021, 07:08)  thanks, guess i had amnesia since i've read that thread already (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Jul 3 2021, 17:43
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Jul 3 2021, 03:55) 
Did you even read my previous posts? Clearly not. If in a 50+ rounds arena I CONSISTENTLY get, 100% OF THE TIME, ONLY MONSTERS WITH A SPIRIT BAR FOR 49 ROUNDS, and then FROM ROUND 50 ONWARDS, AND ONLY FROM ROUND 50 ONWARDS, WEAKER MONSTERS APPEAR, and the higher the round, higher the chance I encounter more than 1 but also 2 or 3 of them. This is NOT normal.
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Jul 3 2021, 18:15
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ComradeGeneral
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Is it possible to get the soulfused Persistent equipment as the soulfused Isaki equipment when a new Isaki season starts? This change may bring more stable beginner routes, reducing effects of unlucky drops on early levels.
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Jul 3 2021, 18:33
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Shank
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Considering its supposed to be a competition, I can't imagine that going well. You'd have people will peerless whathaveyou's, and newbies to hv will never be able to compete
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Jul 3 2021, 23:44
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BlueWaterSplash
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I did Tower Floor 13 with level 130 monsters today and noticed it happened to be about right for what Santa describes. So I fled and redid that floor three times. I did encounter a very few monsters without SP bars in the early rounds, but noted that they all were made by real people trainers.
Then in the later rounds, I couldn't tell if I encountered any more of such monsters without SP bars, but I definitely encountered a ton of the generics like Green Slime and Amphibious Sperm Whale. So I think the generics have something to do with this, but I don't know how the game treats them for monster picking.
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Jul 4 2021, 03:46
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Jul 4 2021, 00:43)  Did you even read my previous posts? Clearly not.
If in a 50+ rounds arena I CONSISTENTLY get, 100% OF THE TIME, ONLY MONSTERS WITH A SPIRIT BAR FOR 49 ROUNDS, and then FROM ROUND 50 ONWARDS, AND ONLY FROM ROUND 50 ONWARDS, WEAKER MONSTERS APPEAR, and the higher the round, higher the chance I encounter more than 1 but also 2 or 3 of them. This is NOT normal.
Only from floor 50? Meet them at round 18 on tower just now (when monsters per round is >6) QUOTE Then in the later rounds, I couldn't tell if I encountered any more of such monsters without SP bars, but I definitely encountered a ton of the generics like Green Slime and Amphibious Sperm Whale. So I think the generics have something to do with this, but I don't know how the game treats them for monster picking. later round = more monsters per round, monsters from player generated monsters pool exhausted due to spawning pattern limitation (a monster could only shows up once every 10 turns or so, 4 type of monsters per round, trainer limitation, PL limitation and so on and so on), hence it picks from generic monsters to fill the list. Generic monsters (and sg,boss,etc) also don't really have PL associated with them (try scan them - dragons are exempt as they are technically 10b's monster) Once again, which part of it is not working as intended? Even if it is indeed hardcoded that at certain low level ranges when monsters are more than 5/6 then 1-3 of them are always generic monsters as some kind of advantage for low level, just like how you can't meet player generated monsters before lvl 25 or the limitation of monster counts on RE below lvl 100, then what of it? SGs and Bosses shows up occasionally on RE and non-sg arena, what makes generic monsters showing up "not normal"?
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Jul 4 2021, 04:25
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RabidTanker
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Jul 2 2021, 07:01) 
Monsters should get stronger with rounds increasing, not weaker.
Hush, don't give him any ideas.
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Jul 4 2021, 12:11
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Necromusume
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jun 21 2021, 09:25)  - Low-level arenas now become unavailable as you level up, mostly to prevent needing to show multiple pages of irrelevant challenges and making people feel the need to clear them every day. At level 500, Endgame (level 100) and up will still be available. Why not just put them on another tab called Other Arenas, and if we want them we still have them?
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Jul 4 2021, 19:09
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Noni
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QUOTE to prevent ... making people feel the need to clear them every day Asking for the well-known road? This looks like the answer to me. And I for one think this is a brilliant idea.
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Jul 4 2021, 20:22
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kamio11
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QUOTE(Noni @ Jul 4 2021, 17:09)  Asking for the well-known road? This looks like the answer to me. And I for one think this is a brilliant idea.
Is there anyone who actually feels pressured to clear all the arenas every day? I see lots of people complaining about their removal, and not many people championing it. Anecdotally, I, for one, have no issue with ignoring all the arenas most days, much less the lower-level arenas. Perhaps all the arenas should be removed to avoid any chance of people feeling that they need to clear them every day? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (I actually find the low-level arenas useful for quickly testing changes to scripts and/or remembering what my hotkeys are after not playing for months.)
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Jul 4 2021, 23:16
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uareader
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QUOTE(kamio11 @ Jul 4 2021, 20:22)  Perhaps all the arenas should be removed That may be good, hopefully we could finally get drops during special events in random encounters thanks to that. </half-serious>
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Jul 5 2021, 21:56
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BlueWaterSplash
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Ah help I am so scaredy I just got DEFEATED in the Dark Skies pfudor at level 218, this is more hard than the tower last season. My equipment isn't bad either, pure exquisite shade with waki and ethereal rapier. QUOTE(kamio11 @ follower of decondelite)  Is there anyone who actually feels pressured to clear all the arenas every day?
I, for one, have no issue with ignoring all the arenas most days Ahaha you made me laugh! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Petition to save Dark Skies it is the most challenging arena I ever fought. I need to pfudor it now or it will go off the top of my screen.
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Jul 6 2021, 06:06
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OnceForAll
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jul 6 2021, 03:56)  Ah help I am so scaredy I just got DEFEATED in the Dark Skies pfudor at level 218, this is more hard than the tower last season. My equipment isn't bad either, pure exquisite shade with waki and ethereal rapier. Ahaha you made me laugh! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Petition to save Dark Skies it is the most challenging arena I ever fought. I need to pfudor it now or it will go off the top of my screen. That's what we call "feels pressured to clear all the arenas in PFUDOR". (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jul 6 2021, 15:42
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Maharid
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jun 21 2021, 11:25)  Arenas - Arena round counts were rescaled and now cap at 100.
I missed that, good. ... I just got on 1 Stamina doing IW on my epup to get some extra juice for later levels... bad! This post has been edited by Maharid: Jul 6 2021, 16:52
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Jul 6 2021, 18:59
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Necromusume
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When rescaling the arenas to 100 rounds, you should bunch up the monsters so there are the same number of regular monsters & schoolgirls total, just in fewer rounds. Then there really would be no downside for the players.
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Jul 7 2021, 23:40
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jcullinane
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QUOTE(kamio11 @ Jul 4 2021, 14:22)  Is there anyone who actually feels pressured to clear all the arenas every day? I see lots of people complaining about their removal, and not many people championing it.
I wouldn't know, without ways to regain stamina at a faster rate so giving up on clearing all those was a decision made without my choice. Which, so I've been told, is all a matter of the players skill and ability so I guess I missed the part about stamina regeneration being insufficient because apparently my 10+ years of HV playing is insufficient. So I suppose from such responses I've seen elsewhere your pressure is also because of a lack of skill and ability. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Jul 8 2021, 10:09
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Tenboro

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Based on some feedback from various people, I made some additional minor tweaks to arena scaling:
- Tweaked the arena monster scaling to effectively skip the first 25% of arena rounds
(I also did another quick pass on the number of rounds per arena.)
Let me know if you notice any weirdness introduced by this change.
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Jul 8 2021, 10:49
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cs987987
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jul 8 2021, 16:09)  Based on some feedback from various people, I made some additional minor tweaks to arena scaling:
- Tweaked the arena monster scaling to effectively skip the first 25% of arena rounds
(I also did another quick pass on the number of rounds per arena.)
Let me know if you notice any weirdness introduced by this change.
Does this will change, I think this is too difficult, it will spend too much time in this difficulty QUOTE A Dance With Dragons now forces PFUDOR difficulty I spend 30 min to clean X20 Eternal Darkness before before this fix. I think "A Dance With Dragons" will spend more than 30 min to clean
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Jul 8 2021, 10:55
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teddy.bear
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nvm shouldn't just skim through posts i guess...
This post has been edited by teddy.bear: Jul 8 2021, 10:57
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Jul 8 2021, 11:10
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Noni
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jul 8 2021, 10:09)  Based on some feedback from various people, I made some additional minor tweaks to arena scaling:
- Tweaked the arena monster scaling to effectively skip the first 25% of arena rounds
(I also did another quick pass on the number of rounds per arena.)
Let me know if you notice any weirdness introduced by this change.
Great news! The changes seem to work fine, we can get way more exp per stamina on ISK now, and have a better chance of getting at least 1 FOS peerless within a season.
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