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post Dec 4 2024, 09:24
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For supposedly being the next gen great format, webp cannot be directly uploaded to google translator, iqdb, yandex, saucenao or any such image sites TODAY.

webp also has no thumbnail support out of the box on windows 10. I do not know for 11, but I doubt it.

both use cases are modern by any definition of the word. W10 is still a supported common OS.

It's not even close to a proper replacement or great format.
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post Dec 4 2024, 09:36
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For supposedly being the next gen great format

That would be JXL and AVIF, but unlike with webp, the support isn't there.

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webp cannot be directly uploaded to google translator, iqdb, yandex, saucenao or any such image sites TODAY.

[saucenao.com] https://saucenao.com/search.php?url=https%3...4862837_p0.webp

lens and yandex were good too.

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out of the box on windows 10. I do not know for 11, but I doubt it.

supported out of box on 11. Should be on 10 too, but if it isn't it the official extension can be installed [apps.microsoft.com] here

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It's not even close to a proper replacement or great format.

in purely technical terms it is a much better replacement for png, gif and jpeg.
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post Dec 4 2024, 09:48
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lens and yandex were good too.

I'll stand corrected on those.
Most likely I used iqdb's "further search" redirect so it's been a while since i've tried lens or yandex directly.

Nevertheless, until google translate and iqdb accept webp directly, I will not respect it. It is a big joke that google tl does not.

But it's not my site to run, and I suppose the ~20% savings sound good to Tenboro, understandably.
This site updates very slowly, which was always nice, made it feel like the old internet.
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post Dec 4 2024, 19:40
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WebP looks pretty awful for color images honestly.
https://e-hentai.org/s/c8bf5bfd5b/3038785-24 (still jpg)
https://e-hentai.org/s/bee0aa76f3/3146577-24 (webp almost dupe)
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post Dec 4 2024, 20:26
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WebP looks pretty awful for color images honestly.


At least do an apples-to-apples comparison if you want to make statements like that.

Here's the same image converted to 1280x PNG (lossless), JPEG and WebP using the legacy JPEG and current WebP quality values. Just open them in three tabs with the PNG in the middle and compare yourself. Not only is the WebP closer to the lossless version, it is almost half the size of the JPEG (28kB vs 48kB).

While there are some parts that look sharper on the JPEG, there is also much more visible artifacting - in fact, a lot of the "sharpness" people see are MCU/DCT artifacts that aren't present in the lossless version. So if you just compare the JPEG vs WebP, you might be tricked into thinking that the WebP loses these details, while in fact it's the JPEG encoding adding them.

As for the colors:

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PNG -> WebP:

Channel distortion: RMSE
    red: 648.953 (0.00990238)
    green: 502.039 (0.00766063)
    blue: 587.323 (0.00896197)
    all: 582.561 (0.00888931)

  Channel distortion: NCC
    red: 0.998782
    green: 0.998835
    blue: 0.997796
    all: 0.998471

  Channel distortion: MAE
    red: 431.974 (0.0065915)
    green: 361.486 (0.00551592)
    blue: 407.974 (0.00622528)
    all: 400.478 (0.0061109)

PNG -> JPEG:

  Channel distortion: RMSE
    red: 671.641 (0.0102486)
    green: 539.765 (0.00823628)
    blue: 647.792 (0.00988467)
    all: 622.383 (0.00949695)

  Channel distortion: NCC
    red: 0.99871
    green: 0.998552
    blue: 0.997448
    all: 0.998237

  Channel distortion: MAE
    red: 440.627 (0.00672354)
    green: 368.067 (0.00561634)
    blue: 452.54 (0.00690531)
    all: 420.411 (0.00641507)


The WebP resample has less deviance on literally every color channel with every metric. (For Root Mean Squared Error and Mean Absolute Error, smaller is better. For Normalized Cross Correlation, larger is better.)

You are free to prefer the JPEG if you wish, but you're not going to convince me that it's worth twice the filesize or even that it provides a better overall visual result.
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post Dec 5 2024, 16:28
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if a jpg gallery is originally smaller than 1280x, does it still get resampled to webp?
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post Dec 5 2024, 17:18
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I just wish I could download the 1280x resampled archive on its original image format like before.
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post Dec 5 2024, 18:09
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QUOTE(aaaplus @ Dec 5 2024, 22:28) *

if a jpg gallery is originally smaller than 1280x, does it still get resampled to webp?

If it exceeds the filesize threshold, just like before.

QUOTE(RaLz- @ Dec 5 2024, 23:18) *

I just wish I could download the 1280x resampled archive on its original image format like before.

Resamples were never on their original formats, as PNG was resampled to JPEG.
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post Dec 30 2024, 16:56
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That's great! Thank you !
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post Jan 1 2025, 13:53
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That's great! Thank you !
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post Jan 7 2025, 22:22
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are older galeries now being converted to webp without having been updated ?

last time i checked galleries after 07. nov. were resampled in webp. now i find galleries from ealier dates that have been resampled as jpg now in webp as well.


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post Jan 7 2025, 22:25
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Yes, old galleries' resampled images are being converted slowly from new -> old.
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post Jan 7 2025, 22:33
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QUOTE(nasu @ Jan 7 2025, 23:25) *

Yes, old galleries' resampled images are being converted slowly from new -> old.

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dammit, i thougt the old galleries would be safe

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post Jan 11 2025, 17:06
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Well, the change to WEBP sucks in every way.
First of all now I cant just right click>save image directlly anymore, the change also means that IF I do want to save the image I have to scrol to the bottom, right click and save the download link, wich takes longer (both in real time and download time) and is a biger archive, and I can't even do that if it's the bussiest hours of the day, whatever that means.
In summary, go back, make E-Hentai Greate Again
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post Jan 12 2025, 00:18
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QUOTE(SasakiS @ Jan 11 2025, 10:06) *

Well, the change to WEBP sucks in every way.
First of all now I cant just right click>save image directlly anymore, the change also means that IF I do want to save the image I have to scrol to the bottom, right click and save the download link, wich takes longer (both in real time and download time) and is a biger archive, and I can't even do that if it's the bussiest hours of the day, whatever that means.
In summary, go back, make E-Hentai Greate Again


Stop using antique software? I can right click and save image just fine.

and webp archives aren't larger, they're considerably smaller, which is part of the reason for the change. You'll have to get over it, the change to include webp is not likely ever going to be rolled back.
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post Jan 12 2025, 18:51
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Hi all, i dont know if this is written down somewhere but is there a maximum number of static ranges for 1 client? Asking this because i maybe want to upgrade my current capacity sometime in the future, so want to know whats "worth it".
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post Jan 12 2025, 21:15
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Thanks very much

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post Jan 22 2025, 06:09
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The Started counter on the tag history tool seems to be badly lagging for all of January. I should have at least +57 tags started since 19 days ago, and actually more than that,
https://repo.e-hentai.org/tools/tagapprove?tagid=508510

https://repo.e-hentai.org/tools/taglist?uid...from=1735867979

They show up in the text listing, but the Started counter still shows only 35 for all of January.
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post Jan 22 2025, 08:57
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Seems to be working as intended. Some of those tags don't qualify for being assessed yet.
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post Jan 29 2025, 09:11
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I experience the same vibes and problems as the others, yet I cannot find any offical statement of going from established formats like jpg and png to webp, which isnt imo a good way to view art.

Was it such a bandwidth problem that several decades of site usage validated a full conversion? Bc that just sounds to me like burning down a country to get rid of a house spider in terms of resource management.

I concur with the other users and support the backing of reverting the webp decision, endkng it and returning to traditional formats.
Thisbisnt 9gag, this is a unique artdepository, much of it unable to be found anywhere else on the web. Reformatting the files is like replacing og artwork with cheap copymachine copies and then stapling them on the wall and going "just as good"

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