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This section is for trading in Isekai mode.

Standard forum rules apply. Each user may have one combined WTS/WTB thread at a time, plus one auction. Please do not abuse this; if we end up with a ton of auctions alongside shop threads, we'll have to remove one of the two to make it fair on other users who want their threads to be seen as well.

Mark your thread WTS, WTB, WTT in the title. If you are selling and buying, use WTT.

Additionally, if you want SmartSearch users to be able to tell what you're looking to do at a glance, put WTS or WTB on each line per item. For example:

WTS Legendary Radiant Phase Robe of Heimdall 100m
WTB Legendary Charged Phase Robe of Mjolnir 30m+

As usual, do not bump your topics more often than once every 24 hours.

When you're done with your topic, edit the title to indicate it is [Closed].

Note that only users with bronze stars or higher are able to attach items or equipment to MoogleMails in Isekai mode, and so non-donors can only buy, but not sell.

Isekai Trading Rules

• You may not use CoD to gift credits in any circumstances. CoDs should be used for legitimate trading only.
  - IW service is considered legitimate for this purpose.
• You may not exchange Isekai credits (ISK) for anything except Isekai equipment and Isekai items.
• You may make deals with other players to exchange persistent HV equipment, items or currencies for Isekai equipment and items, but not Isekai credits.

Violations can get you disqualified from the current and/or future season's rankings, and/or permanently blocked from sending Isekai attachments.

Please note that these restrictions preclude users from auctioning equipments for others with payments made in ISK. As such, users can only make auctions for their own equipment (for ISK payment by direct CoD), or for persistent credits payment (no CoD, and the honour system is assumed to apply).

This post has been edited by Nezu: Feb 24 2021, 21:01

I dont know if i can reply here (if im in the wrong just move this post to it need to be)

So, we can trade this way:

Premanent Credits can be exchanged for items and equipments in ISEKAI but those deals must be done not involving ISEKAI credits.

Right?

also:

You may make deals with other players to exchange persistent HV equipment, items or currencies for Isekai equipment and items, but not Isekai credits.

That part also includes exchanging PERMA CREDITS for ISEKAI CREDITS?

Not pointed there, and if it is an option, i think it must be there, dont?

That part also includes exchanging PERMA CREDITS for ISEKAI CREDITS?

ISK can only be traded for Isekai equip/items via CoD. In short, any deals that involve both ISK and anything outside of HV Isekai is NG.

OK, ISK can't be Gift.
Question here: Can I send items and Equipments as Gifts to help other Players?
e. g. sending Average Equipments and Draughts to Beginners.
e. g. sending an Exq. Leather of Protection with lv 60 to an other Player, because I've found better Leather with higher Level.

ISK can only be traded for Isekai equip/items via CoD. In short, any deals that involve both ISK and anything outside of HV Isekai is NG.

OK, then no ISKc for Permac.

That ok.

Now, what about Buying ISK Trophies with Perma Credits?

Scremaz posted and odd answer (no calling wrong or good) so im just wonderion coz:

Isekai Trading Rules

• You may not use CoD to gift credits in any circumstances. CoDs should be used for legitimate trading only.
• You may not exchange anything except Isekai equipment and Isekai items for Isekai credits.
  
• You may make deals with other players to exchange persistent HV equipment, items or currencies for Isekai equipment and items, but not Isekai credits.

Violations can get you disqualified from the current and/or future season's rankings, and/or permanently blocked from sending Isekai attachments.

And so i undertood it can be possible.

Correct me if wrong.

Peace.

Scremaz posted and odd answer (no calling wrong or good) so im just wonderion coz:

i just posted you admin's answer as soon as i saw it, since you looked interested. nothing more, nothing less.

OK, ISK can't be Gift.
Question here: Can I send items and Equipments as Gifts to help other Players?
e. g. sending Average Equipments and Draughts to Beginners.
e. g. sending an Exq. Leather of Protection with lv 60 to an other Player, because I've found better Leather with higher Level.

Yes, that's fine.

Now, what about Buying ISK Trophies with Perma Credits?

That's fine too.

This post has been edited by Nezu: Jan 12 2021, 01:13

That's fine too.

Simple answer is beatifull.

Thanks.

Question here: Can I send items and Equipments as Gifts to help other Players?
e. g. sending Average Equipments and Draughts to Beginners.
e. g. sending an Exq. Leather of Protection with lv 60 to an other Player, because I've found better Leather with higher Level.

Now, what about Buying ISK Trophies with Perma Credits?

Like Nezu said, these are both fine, for related reasons.

I have heard the feedback from people who don't think trading EH/HV Persistent stuff for Isekai stuff should be allowed, but this isn't enforceable without disabling trading altogether, since nothing stops people from making an off-site deal and then having the Isekai item sent as a "gift" or a low-ball CoD.

Specifically, what we don't allow is to use CoD to transfer ISK for anything else than the specific items in that message. Everything else is just examples of things that violate that rule.

Sorry for my Trouble, but now I encounter a new Problem and have a new Question.
Can I sell "Service" in Isekai and accept ISK as Payment?
Yesterday I've done an IW for a Friend. So I think, if I can earn ISK through IW just like in Persistent.
e.g. Player A send me an Equipment, I do IW for it and send it back with LV 10 and COD.
In this Trade, neither an Item nor a Equipment is exchanged, but my Service, so it may look like that Player A gifts me with ISK.
I'm sorry for having Questions, but I'm lerning this Rules for Isekai myselft and don't want to violate Rules. So, if I'm not sure after reading the Rules, I think I should ask before I do or try it.

Can I sell "Service" in Isekai and accept ISK as Payment?
Yesterday I've done an IW for a Friend. So I think, if I can earn ISK through IW just like in Persistent.
e.g. Player A send me an Equipment, I do IW for it and send it back with LV 10 and COD.
In this Trade, neither an Item nor a Equipment is exchanged, but my Service, so it may look like that Player A gifts me with ISK.

That's fine, but keep in mind that the other guy would need a bronze star or higher, or they wouldn't be able to send it to you in the first place.

Its sounds like its to stop people from using lemming accounts to aggregate ISK.

Been ages since people did that in HV but I guess we dont' want the practice coming back.

Its sounds like its to stop people from using lemming accounts to aggregate ISK.

Been ages since people did that in HV but I guess we dont' want the practice coming back.

Ages?

Im pretty sure nezu said something about it happening a lot on december.

Specially to get annoying guns.

Correct me if wrong.

Possibly for the event, I wasn't paying as much attention.

Ok, i'm not really good in english so i ask just to be 100% sure.

1) It is ok to sell an ISEKAI item or equip for persistent credits?

2)

Please note that these restrictions preclude users from auctioning equipments for others with payments made in ISK. As such, users can only make auctions for their own equipment (for ISK payment by direct CoD), or for persistent credits payment (no CoD, and the honour system is assumed to apply).

This mean that someting like Super's auction (Granmaster Auction in the first run of isekai) are a no no, right?

Ok, i'm not really good in english so i ask just to be 100% sure.

1) It is ok to sell an ISEKAI item or equip for persistent credits?

2)

This mean that someting like Super's auction (Granmaster Auction in the first run of isekai) are a no no, right?

1 - yes
2 - not exactly - Grandmaster's auction was entirely in persistent credits. You couldn't run an auction charging ISK because you wouldn't be able to send that ISK to the seller. If it's your own items only - like the Genie's Bottle auctions - that's fine.

Thanks for the clarification.

Why aren't there more WTBs asking for ISK only?

I have a thread idea, but I wanted to ask for approval ahead of time since it involves non-donors and a different form of transaction.

In short: one thread at the end of the season where individuals (including non-donors) can list their very best gear that they plan to salvage but are willing to send to bazaar instead if someone wants it to soulbind to take back to persistent.

Impetus: the last week-ish of each isekai season used to be great for newer players, since many decent, even good legendaries would be unloaded by non-donors (and likely some donors too) as they cleaned out their equipment inventory. Now, it's more profitable to salvage these. It looks to be much harder to find mid-tier gear in general with this update, so newer players can use any break they can get so they aren't as reliant on rentals or struggling as much overall. This thread idea hopes to preserve at least part of the previous isekai season-end opportunity.

Caveats/details:

• Last week of the season only. This way, it mostly wouldn't compete with donors and traditional stores/auctions.
• "Sellers" (selling to bazaar), in their post, would direct "buyers" to either PM or MM them. Buyers should post in the thread for transparency and then PM/MM as directed. It would be on the seller and first-posting buyer to privately decide on an exact date+time that the seller would send the equipment to bazaar.
• No bargaining/favors/etc would be allowed. First-come, first-serve, no strings attached. Sellers would do this entirely out of goodwill, getting nothing else in return (besides hopefully a thanks and a player who might pay it forward to someone else in the future). [There is potential for abuse here, but I feel that the potential for good outweighs this.]
• There would be no guarantees. Sellers should only post if they aren't going to get angry if something goes awry, and buyers should only post+PM/MM if they're fully committed (also with sufficient fragments/credits and high enough level) to soulbind the gear in question.
• Only mid-to-high-quality legendaries should be posted: stuff would be great for a newer player. No magnificents (more profitable to be sold to bazaar anyway) and no meh/junk legendaries (nobody wants, and newbs shouldn't be given the impression that they're worth soulbinding, so they should be salvaged). This would also function to limit the number of items per seller, so it'd be easier for them to manage with less chance (or at least fewer chances) of agreements not being fulfilled by one side or the other.
• To ensure that gear doesn't go to waste, the recommendation to sellers would be to check on their equipment ten minutes after selling it to bazaar. If it hasn't been bought, then they could PM/MM anyone else who was interested in the item.

This is -not- a perfect system, but given the goodwill of most players here I think this has a solid chance of working.

I would be willing to start and manage the thread, providing equipment updates (in the second post; first post would be info, generally as stated above) at least every ten hours. I probably wouldn't be the ideal manager, but I'm volunteering to put in the work to make this happen rather than asking someone else to do it.

I have a thread idea, but I wanted to ask for approval ahead of time since it involves non-donors and a different form
...

Not the post for this.