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post Feb 17 2021, 22:51
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 4 2021, 09:19) *

I have been planning to make lower-level arenas unavailable as you level up instead of having multiple pages of arenas, for several reasons. Will probably be in the next season.

As for reducing the time it takes to burn through your stamina in general, already planned for the next season. "Double droprate and stamina burn in Isekai" is likely going to be the way this will happen.

IW/potency revamp has been planned for some time. Not sure it will be in the next update though.

As for having more things "pass on" to Persistent - having the item inventory convert is a bit iffy since it means having to be more conservative with drops on Isekai, but I have been playing with the thought of having proficiency exp specifically pass on. It's not entirely trivial for some technical implementation reasons, but I will be looking into that more later.


My two cents on arena changes, reduce the overall length of the higher level ones if you are going to start "Locking" the lower level ones. You are taking away quick endorphins even if the reward is shit
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post Feb 18 2021, 00:32
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 4 2021, 10:19) *
make lower-level arenas unavailable as you level up
Ouch, just when we get auto-sell and auto-salvage options, we would suddenly need low level equipments and Item World to have battles with a reasonable amount of rounds.
Well, if Item World had had a very very stronger impact on equipment, and the equipment had gotten sold in Bazaar after it can't be Item Worlded any more, it could have been good for beginners/low levels at least, but that's not the case.
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post Feb 18 2021, 07:09
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QUOTE(RabidTanker @ Feb 14 2021, 19:09) *

Well, I'm getting my ass kicked on the Nintendo level, might as well figure out how the Item World works...



QUOTE(uareader @ Feb 15 2021, 08:11) *

Yeah, stopped for a while when the Tower reached that level, then did one successful go, but probably won't ever go farther.
I wonder if Tenboro will watch stats to see where the "typical stopping points" for the Tower were, and if that will be one of those (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


I made it to the last couple of Nintendo floors before it got pretty difficult. Slightly amended approach, and now I think I am at first IWBTH floor now, level 27, and I know further progress will be tough without significant IW and significant upgrades. Or maybe finding much better Rapier...I can see I am not gonna earn many souls so I cannot waste them.

Still enjoying. I can see from my Ranking that this is not a popular game mode, but I bet it will become one in future iterations, it has way too much potential. Now if only I could get a medal, or a cookie, or something for my perseverance in this iteration that enhances my abilities in next iteration? Rewards for use in Permanent, ok, but I myself am less interested in those I have heard discussed. Lots of opinions no doubt.
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post Feb 18 2021, 07:33
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Tenboro any ideas on when the next update is coming as I really don't feel like doing any more floors with how long they take and the useless clear bonus' I keep getting. If you are going to shorten them soon then I will wait.

QUOTE(eramosat @ Feb 18 2021, 07:09) *

I made it to the last couple of Nintendo floors before it got pretty difficult. Slightly amended approach, and now I think I am at first IWBTH floor now, level 27, and I know further progress will be tough without significant IW and significant upgrades. Or maybe finding much better Rapier...I can see I am not gonna earn many souls so I cannot waste them.

Still enjoying. I can see from my Ranking that this is not a popular game mode, but I bet it will become one in future iterations, it has way too much potential. Now if only I could get a medal, or a cookie, or something for my perseverance in this iteration that enhances my abilities in next iteration? Rewards for use in Permanent, ok, but I myself am less interested in those I have heard discussed. Lots of opinions no doubt.


For higher floors you need as much block and parry as you can get and enough plate so that you are not losing spirit to a normal physical attack. Then you just need a whole lot of perseverance as it is a mind numbingly boring grind. You need to imperil every monster and silence a few too towards the end and even then it feels like it takes forever even with a good rapier. Apart from IW your weapon unless you can get lvl 5 juggernaught on armour its really just a waste of time especially with gear that you will be upgrading at some point.
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post Feb 18 2021, 11:11
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QUOTE(teddy.bear @ Feb 18 2021, 05:33) *

Tenboro any ideas on when the next update is coming as I really don't feel like doing any more floors with how long they take and the useless clear bonus' I keep getting. If you are going to shorten them soon then I will wait.


I don't believe any further updates are planned during this season (since we're already well underway and out of the early bird period), anything that changes will 99% likely be at the start of next season. Of course only Tenboro can confirm this, but I am fairly sure nothing outside of game-breaking bugs are going to be altered for now.

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For higher floors you need as much block and parry as you can get and enough plate so that you are not losing spirit to a normal physical attack. Then you just need a whole lot of perseverance as it is a mind numbingly boring grind. You need to imperil every monster and silence a few too towards the end and even then it feels like it takes forever even with a good rapier. Apart from IW your weapon unless you can get lvl 5 juggernaught on armour its really just a waste of time especially with gear that you will be upgrading at some point.


That's not necessarily true; I'm playing DW with light armor, I don't use silence, my armor is un-IWed and unforged, my weapons have some minor forging and random mixes of IW stuff... and I'm at floor 46. I think I can still clear a few more before I get stuck.

The top end of 1H players are at floors 60-70 now, albeit with 'special tactics' enabling them to get that far.

It's definitely pretty slow, but at least we have some possible solutions lined up for that, and I have a few alternatives up my sleeves to discuss with Tenboro when the time comes... but first it's important to see how people perform this season, and what the spread is, before thinking about which design is best for the current playerbase.
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post Feb 18 2021, 11:28
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Tenboro any ideas on when the next update is coming as I really don't feel like doing any more floors with how long they take and the useless clear bonus' I keep getting. If you are going to shorten them soon then I will wait.


I don't have any plans (or time for that matter) to make multiple HV updates per season outside of small tweaks and bug fixes.
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post Feb 18 2021, 12:12
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 18 2021, 11:28) *

I don't have any plans (or time for that matter) to make multiple HV updates per season outside of small tweaks and bug fixes.


Ok, I think I will just go for the peerless ticket from snowflake then.

If the top players are already at floor 60-70 I don't have enough motivation to try to catch up, floor 47 took 1h15m for me to complete and while I could certainly quicken up the pace a bit by enchanting, as it is now over 1h per floor I would need to be either doing multiple floors back to back to not waste enchanments or buy them.

My shade armour is better than my heavy set now but it's too late to switch without assimilator and I doubt it would be better for survavbility than my heavy gear without lots of forging. The main reason I use silence towards the end is to save on spirit potions when I get hit by void and holy attacks.

It would be nice if we could mix armour types without sacrificing so much as I could get almost 50% resist with just 1 forged shade negation piece. Whether the reduction in damge from higher resists and evade is enough to overcome the loss of mitigations and HP would be interesting to test out. I may give it a go at some point as it's not like I have anything else to spend credits on and I have plenty of HG leather
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post Feb 18 2021, 12:20
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Forgot to ask last post but is salvaging to reset potencies okay, is it possible to do this indefinietly instead of using shards?
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post Feb 18 2021, 12:28
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QUOTE(teddy.bear @ Feb 18 2021, 11:20) *

Forgot to ask last post but is salvaging to reset potencies okay, is it possible to do this indefinietly instead of using shards?

yes you can do this indefinitely, as long as you have unlimited ISK to buy the item back. It gets a lot more expensive after the first time.
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post Feb 18 2021, 12:42
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QUOTE(Noni @ Feb 18 2021, 12:28) *

yes you can do this indefinitely, as long as you have unlimited ISK to buy the item back. It gets a lot more expensive after the first time.


Would be nice if that was pointed out in the beginning. I can't really do that for any of my current gear anymore as it is all forged, and I don't particularly wish to lose materals.

Tenboro seeing as though this workaround exists and some of us did not know it was possible to do so indefinately can you either remove the shard cost to reset potencies or add shards to the store so those of us who have forged our gear have the chance of getting decent potencies this season.
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post Feb 18 2021, 21:14
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It's been nice but I'm ending my adventure with isekai for the sake of more real-life-time.
My impressions until now:
- I don't really get the 'too few rewards' crowd - They are very generous credits-wise. There are lots of players that will buy your isekai items and equipment for persistent credits with a multiplier. And now even low roll eq have some value!
(For already ultra-rich people this may not really be appealing but I will leave suggestions about that to them)
- The same thing as above unfortunately seems to mean p2w as lots of persistent credits = less ISK spent on potions/catalysts/mats/eq so more can be spent on buying soul-fragments/even better eq from other players.
- It's been nice to be able to try other play-style without much commitment.
- Proficiency gain without Dawn-like bonus to unused ones is painful when swapping styles. (suddenly starting from zero at lvl 300 for example...)
- Amnesia shards seem too rare
- Without a way to recover stamina there is little meaning in doing grindfest at all outside of very early levels when there is only a few arenas unlocked.

Suggestions:
- If the plan is to incentivize playing different styles then I feel proficiency gains should get some more love
- Change grindfest into forge-mat-fest so that people can do more forging on their own equipment without relying on the persistent credit bank / trading in general.
IMO this would also help multi-style players it would be more probable to be able sustain more than 1 eq-set (compensate non-optimal-drops in the forge)
- big "+" from me on the exp-bonus based on the tower level idea - after 320 leveling goes very slowly, and lower levels seem almost too quick.

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post Feb 18 2021, 22:45
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Bette Davis drama in two acts.

Before The Tower...

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After The Tower...

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post Feb 20 2021, 19:27
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Hi Tenboro,

Could it be possible to let players check their ISK log?(like we could check credits log in persistent)

ISK is using in multiple ways, such as player trades/equipment shop/item shop. ISK log is helpful for players to check their trades and daily cost in system shops, and thus they could have a better preparation before the last-cannot trade-month.
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post Feb 25 2021, 17:46
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Fun idea:

Lottery peerless equipment will land in isekai, and will only be available in Persistent after the isekai season has ended.

Benefit would be that a lot more lottery items are interesting to actually use, and interesting for a lot more players. And the waiting in persistent isn't that long, at worst it's 6 months until you have your won equipment there!
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post Feb 26 2021, 03:33
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QUOTE(Noni @ Feb 25 2021, 15:46) *

Fun idea:

Lottery peerless equipment will land in isekai, and will only be available in Persistent after the isekai season has ended.

I think it is safe to assume that a significant number of players only spend time in persistent. Not being able to immediately use lottery gear would lead to anger, frustration, etc. I could see the benefit of adding the option at time of ticket purchase to send the Grand Prize to Isekai. However, I believe adding that code would be low priority.
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post Apr 17 2021, 02:56
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do the peerless tickets need to be used in isekai mode or will they carry over to persistant?
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QUOTE(teddy.bear @ Apr 17 2021, 01:56) *

do the peerless tickets need to be used in isekai mode or will they carry over to persistant?


QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 9 2021, 10:00) *

Finally, any Soulbound gear you have in Isekai will carry over to Persistent at the end of the season. Any Peerless gear and Peerless vouchers you manage to acquire will also be included, though Peerless gear will become soulbound in the process. Upgrades will not carry over.

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post Apr 18 2021, 01:18
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Thanks nezu I missed that bit
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post May 15 2021, 11:50
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I think it is safe to assume that a significant number of players only spend time in persistent.

Count me in.
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