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Which random country wins the US senpai's attention?
Yemen [ 4 ] ** [19.05%]
Ethiopia [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Burkina Faso [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Libya [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Iran [ 12 ] ** [57.14%]
North Korea [ 4 ] ** [19.05%]
Kashmir [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Venezuela [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Ukraine [ 1 ] ** [4.76%]
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post Nov 8 2020, 13:56
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Sanders got NTR'd fucking twice, in a row. Did a 180 with the borders after talking loads of shit about "the Koch". A silly commie through and through.

And his voters still support Biden. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Imagine Trump surrendering to Jeb or Cruz after they cheated the primaries. Ron Paul shilling for Mccain or Romney, Hilarious. In other words, they are Man-children. Just like him.
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post Nov 8 2020, 16:05
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Nov 8 2020, 00:37) *

I am generally pro Sanders but he came out in support for the establishment. A few times he has given very left win speeches and then voted in line with the party.


Running as a Democrat broke whatever integrity Bernie had.
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post Nov 8 2020, 16:34
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QUOTE(dixi normous @ Nov 8 2020, 04:05) *

Running as a Democrat broke whatever integrity Bernie had.


Also when he dropped out each time he kept the donations and backed the establishment.
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post Nov 8 2020, 16:35
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How can people be pro Sanders? He's a commie lover and he wants to tax everyone to death.
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post Nov 8 2020, 18:15
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Nov 8 2020, 08:34) *

Also when he dropped out each time he kept the donations and backed the establishment.


And got a couple of shiny new houses.
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post Nov 8 2020, 19:10
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QUOTE(progste @ Nov 8 2020, 14:35) *

How can people be pro Sanders? He's a commie lover and he wants to tax everyone to death.

Surprisingly Norway, which has some of the highest taxes, also has probably the most stable economy in the world thanks to a socialist-capitalist model. Although this is because when they hit oil and gas in the North Sea they didn't dole it out to favoured oligarchs or spend all the money on vanity projects (see USA, Russia, UK, Venezuela, etc.) but invested it all. Damn smartass commies.
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post Nov 8 2020, 19:48
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QUOTE(ohmightycat @ Nov 8 2020, 18:10) *

Surprisingly Norway, which has some of the highest taxes, also has probably the most stable economy in the world thanks to a socialist-capitalist model. Although this is because when they hit oil and gas in the North Sea they didn't dole it out to favoured oligarchs or spend all the money on vanity projects (see USA, Russia, UK, Venezuela, etc.) but invested it all. Damn smartass commies.

Norway is actually the opposite of that, while taxes for low incomes are high the corporate taxes are really low.
Their current prosperity was brought about in the 80s ad 90s by right wing governments which lowered taxes and payed off the debts, so now they are prospering on those results.

What Sanders proposed doesn't resemble Norway in the slightest, it's more similar to the policies that ruined Venezuela, which he praised to high heaven up to a couple years ago.
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post Nov 8 2020, 19:52
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QUOTE(Crazy3d @ Nov 8 2020, 06:56) *
And his voters still support Biden. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Imagine Trump surrendering to Jeb or Cruz after they cheated the primaries. Ron Paul shilling for Mccain or Romney, Hilarious. In other words, they are Man-children. Just like him.
I hardly support Biden, but OK.
Also, super-delegates are something the republican party rightfully does not have.
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post Nov 8 2020, 23:19
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QUOTE(ohmightycat @ Nov 8 2020, 07:10) *

Surprisingly Norway, which has some of the highest taxes, also has probably the most stable economy in the world thanks to a socialist-capitalist model. Although this is because when they hit oil and gas in the North Sea they didn't dole it out to favoured oligarchs or spend all the money on vanity projects (see USA, Russia, UK, Venezuela, etc.) but invested it all. Damn smartass commies.


Norway's top marginal income tax rate has been dropping. I think it has fallen to 38.2% now.

Sweden, Finland, and Denmark are still super high.

California under Biden's tax plan is going to be highest on the planet. Americans still probably won't get exactly the health care they want as big democrat cities are half bankrupt at the moment and need the tax to cover current liabilities.
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post Nov 8 2020, 23:34
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I kind of want to see the far right start that civil war with all those militias they have been forming

Im wanting entertainment the riots were fun but lets see them lose it
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post Nov 8 2020, 23:42
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My vote was dropped >:(
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post Nov 8 2020, 23:52
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QUOTE(AhumanRS @ Nov 8 2020, 13:42) *

My vote was dropped >:(

Every vote counts maybe the next 4 years they will have a better system

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post Nov 8 2020, 23:57
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QUOTE(AllucarDracula @ Nov 8 2020, 15:52) *

Every vote counts maybe the next 4 years they will have a better system

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They aren't going to update the forum in 4 years or ever. EsotericSatire dropped my vote.
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post Nov 9 2020, 03:13
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Someone needs to drop his daily dose of msm.

And no Russia or Syria up there is pretty fail cat lol
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post Nov 9 2020, 09:22
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QUOTE(Crazy3d @ Nov 8 2020, 15:13) *

Someone needs to drop his daily dose of msm.

And no Russia or Syria up there is pretty fail cat lol



I didn't make the list.

I doubt they would go to war with Russia. Might try to got to war with part of Syria.

China is backing Iran so Beijing Joe won't touch them.
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post Nov 9 2020, 18:37
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I'm still pissed that Jeb didn't get clapped into office.
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post Nov 10 2020, 01:05
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Nov 9 2020, 02:22) *

I didn't make the list.

I doubt they would go to war with Russia. Might try to got to war with part of Syria.

China is backing Iran so Beijing Joe won't touch them.


My two cents: Iran despises Israel, Israel can't buy their way against them and Israel is afraid. Then there's their huge leverage with Reps and Dems. Obama fucked them when you look at the massive cover support for ISIS and Al Nusra during the Syrian "civil war". Iran receives access to some of their frozen accounts in in exchange for crucial information about any nuclear program, that's it.

Trump obviously granted zionists many things but wasn't eager for actual war. Probably because he knows it's a nightmare and get wanted a reelection. Plus Rand Paul managed to influence the guy. Zionists and neocons tried to push through but he only gave so much. He told Tucker about these pressures that he tries to keep at bay.

My take is Biden will attempt to work something with China just like Israel with the UAE. An analysis needs to be a bit deeper than "China gives Biden money, China with Iran and now Biden China/Iran puppet". C'mon man. I see China throwing Iran and Russia under the bus if they believe they can simply buy power to avoid a fight which Russia nor Iran have the economy to avoid. In a sense that means China, Russia and Iran care about the future of "their people", unlike woke politicians under the thumb of supranational institutions. Makes sense considering Russia always been conservative outside economics and there's a religious uprising nowadays. Religion may be key. But China in that sense is different and will probably throw their "allies" under the bus.

China's clear access to the west may be worth more than any benefit gained from joining resilients Russia and Iran in the long run. That's a tldr version. Iran and Syria are fucked in my opinion. Then Russia.
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QUOTE(Crazy3d @ Nov 9 2020, 13:05) *

My take is Biden will attempt to work something with China just like Israel with the UAE. An analysis needs to be a bit deeper than "China gives Biden money, China with Iran and now Biden China/Iran puppet". C'mon man. I see China throwing Iran and Russia under the bus if they believe they can simply buy power to avoid a fight which Russia nor Iran have the economy to avoid. In a sense that means China, Russia and Iran care about the future of "their people", unlike woke politicians under the thumb of supranational institutions. Makes sense considering Russia always been conservative outside economics and there's a religious uprising nowadays. Religion may be key. But China in that sense is different and will probably throw their "allies" under the bus.

China's clear access to the west may be worth more than any benefit gained from joining resilients Russia and Iran in the long run. That's a tldr version. Iran and Syria are fucked in my opinion. Then Russia.


I think Syria and Russia are in trouble. China has loads of dirt on Biden, I doubt he can negotiate anything other than what appears to be a strong stance but is actually what they want; eg removing audit requirements for superannuation funds to invest in CCP companies, more Chinese companies listed on US stock market, undoing the threat of freezing HK banks, more weak unilateral trade deals like the TPP that give China more power. Making the origin of COVID 19 disappear, overlooking all the bribery in the WHO, WTO, UN etc. The list goes on for their wish list. I think they will get it all.

China is now demanding Russia falls in line behind them, and half of Syria is connected with Russia.

Iran is now part of the belt and road initiative, that means Biden will not touch them. Probably will draft up some token treaty that does nothing.

Literally no one believes Biden will go against the big investment bankers, China and corporate interests. That is why he was facilitated to win.
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China has leverage but Israel and Saudi Arabia are a thing. Obama, Hillary and Biden steamrolled entire countries with those two, armed some of the worst people ever and launched coups in Turkey and Ukraine. This is not a fucking joke.

The wealthiest African nation was sent back a hundred years. With millions of refugees weaponized against Europeans in the largest migration of this century. The U.S came the closest to nuclear war since fucking 1990. Your analysis leaves entire years of war, trillions of dollars/euros in bullshit and millions of corpses out. C'mon man (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE(progste @ Nov 9 2020, 03:48) *

Norway is actually the opposite of that, while taxes for low incomes are high the corporate taxes are really low.
Their current prosperity was brought about in the 80s ad 90s by right wing governments which lowered taxes and payed off the debts, so now they are prospering on those results.

What Sanders proposed doesn't resemble Norway in the slightest, it's more similar to the policies that ruined Venezuela, which he praised to high heaven up to a couple years ago.

Brah, i had typed out almost the exact thing before i read further to your post.

His post reminded me of we wuz kangz, bunch of assholes claiming credit for something they never did.


He also doesn't explain how they will prop up their socialist utopia when they ban oil and gas/cows because they're progressives.

Whatever abundance they had isn't going to last, socialists ruin prosperity.



As for the topic, i think you left out syria and maybe proxy wars in india/kashmir vs china or in armenia vs turkey.

I'm pretty sure that turkey is gonna get nuked one day, either by greeks or russians.
NATO is also gonna fall apart because the bulk of it's standing army consists of soldiers from turkey, france might initiate the break up.

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