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post Apr 3 2022, 03:57
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yeah the infrastructure required compared to the cost efficiency of petrol is kind of funny.

Rather than making electric cars a great and affordable product they are just going to use mandates, which punishes consumers the most as then there is no competitive pressure on electric car manufacturers.

They have responded to the coal powered plants not with nuclear but with higher prices.

They still haven't responded to the fact that lithium currently uses a giant amount of slave labor. US seems to love slaves still if they are outsourced and out of sight.
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post Apr 3 2022, 06:32
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Apr 3 2022, 01:57) *
They still haven't responded to the fact that lithium currently uses a giant amount of slave labor. US seems to love slaves still if they are outsourced and out of sight.
And the strip mining. Don't forget the strip mining.

Tried to point that out to someone who was telling me "just buy a $50k electric car, lol." Told me I was falling for propaganda. Bitch, lithium batteries aren't green. Especially disposal.

No, bitch, I'm more of an electrical engineer than you are. And when i can get an EV that has no extra computer shit in it so it feels like an 80s/90s car (one without a digital dash) that doesn't track me or have backdoors and has vettable source code, let me know.

It's great if people want to try to take steps towards helping the environment or whatever, but don't start acting holier-than-thou about it.

I'm pretty much okay with not having source code for a fuel injection system ECU because the principles behind that are well known. Beyond that, EV's have all the modern car problems, perhaps even moreso than other modern cars.

If we can find a way to make hydrogen more cleanly, that'd be way nicer than battery-based EV's (as long as we can mitigate explosion concerns...). Fueling stations and distribution is the other major problem with fuel cells.

In the short term, lpg wouldn't be too bad either.

Better than your EV being more expensive to fix than the car's actual value when the battery goes.

Oh yeah, also not having a single charging standard is pretty great.

Thought: My 240's automatic transmission has never shifted as well as in the last week or so.

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post Apr 3 2022, 13:57
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Are you able to do your own conversion? Some old cars were relatively easy to convert to EV and kits available.

A lot of people were converting Mini Coopers because they are light.
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post Apr 3 2022, 20:56
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Apr 3 2022, 11:57) *
Are you able to do your own conversion? Some old cars were relatively easy to convert to EV and kits available.

A lot of people were converting Mini Coopers because they are light.

I have heard that it is possible to EV convert the 240. But the 240 is a heavy car.
There is at least one out there.
[home.kpn.nl] http://home.kpn.nl/electricvolvo/photos/
[www.oudevolvo.nl] https://www.oudevolvo.nl/en/blog/2015/04/14...assic-electric/

That said, it's not got a kit available, to my knowledge. A little surprising, but not extremely since people who like the 240 tend to like the indestructible engines and relatively dependable transmissions. Volvo used basically the same drivetrain for 30 years.

In my opinion it was the best car from the 60's you could buy in the 90's, and that probably is part of the appeal to a lot of people. But it appeals to me because I just think it looks nice and is fun to drive. You can really feel connected to the road driving one, especially with the manual. And it handles really well for an RWD car its size.
It's also pretty simple in terms of wiring, although real 60's cars were easier there. I was still able to fix a ground fault in my tailgate that made the rear brake light come on with the wiper with ten minutes of work and some heat shrink tubing. Parts availability is still decent as well.

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post Apr 4 2022, 10:12
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I was looking at the kits, once you want to go over 120hp for the conversion then the price starts climbing fast.

Base pack 5-10k 120hp 120km range

To keep the same range but get to 200hp it doubles the cost.

Using used tesla S batteries was a cheap option but looks like the price has crept up.
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post Apr 4 2022, 11:52
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Apr 4 2022, 08:12) *
I was looking at the kits, once you want to go over 120hp for the conversion then the price starts climbing fast.
Well Volvo claimed mine got 114HP; I assume that's crank horsepower. And mine's 30 years old. It doesn't have to be too zippy as long as it can get there eventually.
QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Apr 4 2022, 08:12) *
Base pack 5-10k 120hp 120km range
To keep the same range but get to 200hp it doubles the cost.

Using used tesla S batteries was a cheap option but looks like the price has crept up.
My guess is that's because they use 18650's, iirc. Pretty good batteries for less scrupulous vendors to reuse in a lot of stuff. Maybe also because more teslas need replacement batteries now that there are more out there and new ones are way too much.

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post Apr 6 2022, 01:03
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Apr 3 2022, 23:52) *

My guess is that's because they use 18650's, iirc. Pretty good batteries for less scrupulous vendors to reuse in a lot of stuff. Maybe also because more teslas need replacement batteries now that there are more out there and new ones are way too much.



The problem is that as price went up it looks like they started binning the second hand battery cells to charge more


Low Mileage $2000 per pack

Tested confirmed life expectancy $1850 per pack

Medium mileage 50k average (untested) $1650 per pack


Originally the batteries from scrapped tesla's were going for around $500 each which made them economical to use in projects.


I saw a post with someone saying 'why are people complaining you can get teslas with 180k-200k miles for cheap"

Its like they don't know how batteries work, and that they are main expense for servicing. Buy a cheap EV for 10k then spend 20k on a battery.
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post Apr 6 2022, 02:20
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My [files.catbox.moe] car is making funny noises, is something wrong with it?
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post Apr 6 2022, 04:43
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QUOTE(Necromusume @ Apr 5 2022, 14:20) *

My [files.catbox.moe] car is making funny noises, is something wrong with it?


I can't see your images for some reason.

Depends what noises its making. Hopefully not engine knock or pinging.

I was always paranoid about engine pinging when I was running 23 psi. Ended up having to change the setup.

23psi at 1.5k rpm is too hectic. Now ramps in a lot slower. Car not as good during drift events but way better in every other context.
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post Apr 6 2022, 05:01
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Apr 6 2022, 02:43) *
I can't see your images for some reason.

So much for the joke then, it was a car that got squished by a tank.
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post May 1 2022, 08:07
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Apr 29 2022, 22:45) *

insurance is dirt cheap for my 29 year old shitbox.

Also, the car thread


Insurance gets more expensive here for older cars with a lot of providers, its how they make their money. They can say they are caring for the environment by encouraging people to get new cars.


As for the tax, they claimed they were making the tax fairer by taxing based on vehicle weight but really ti was just a cash grab a couple years later.

My car is fairly light weight but the tax went up. My car is about 1200kg which is about 100 below the average.

Then I imagine everyone's tax went up, unless you were driving a really small car.

Some of the small hatchbacks are 900-1000kg. Maybe their tax went down?


The weight of all the top 20 car models sold for the past 5 years are 1300kg or above.

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post May 1 2022, 15:02
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post May 2 2022, 08:24
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Thats me when my friends are telling me about the classic car that they got at a great price.
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post May 2 2022, 08:33
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I feel that.
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post May 4 2022, 11:01
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I still have a bunch of work to do on my car.
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post May 11 2022, 05:19
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I just got a car that uses 7" round sealed beam headlamps.

I'd like to replace them with H4's or LED's or HID's or something (probably H4's for 'authenticity' of the look, and price - no way am I paying $600 for a pair of projectors).

Anyone here done this? What did you end up going with? Looks like the cibie 7" housings with the swappable bulbs that people swore by aren't being made anymore. Maybe Hella 002395031 's would work. They still feel expensive, but I guess everything feels expensive to me.

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post May 12 2022, 02:39
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Update.

So I went out and actually checked my car, and lo and behold the previous owner already put e-codes with the replaceable H4's on it. Nice.
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post May 12 2022, 23:48
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ May 11 2022, 14:39) *

Update.

So I went out and actually checked my car, and lo and behold the previous owner already put e-codes with the replaceable H4's on it. Nice.



Nice, most of the people I know that did light swaps went overboard and spent way to much money for fancy lights. However some of the high end lights ended up having issues like water ingress.
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post May 13 2022, 04:37
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ May 12 2022, 21:48) *

Nice, most of the people I know that did light swaps went overboard and spent way to much money for fancy lights. However some of the high end lights ended up having issues like water ingress.

Yeah, these are just Hella's. I'm happy with the choice because it keeps the car looking far closer to stock.

If I could find Cibie ones (which are rounder, closer to the shape of the original sealed beams, and anecdotally said to throw light a little better) at a nice price I might have used those, but it looks like they stopped making them long ago now.

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post May 18 2022, 14:32
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Apr 30 2022, 23:07) *

Insurance gets more expensive here for older cars with a lot of providers, its how they make their money.

The insurance company charges a lot, but as soon as there is an accident, they "total" that old for a tiny amount that is disproportionate to the rate they charged.
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