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And yes, melees if forged can easily compete with mage in damage/period of time metrics.

That sounds like something you just made up. You have no idea, lol. Where's your fully forged melee gear and fully forged mage gear to do comparisons? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) . I seriously doubt there's a melee who can do DwD faster than Danixxx. Also, mage patch is changing MMI formula, so your damage will be relatively the same, plus mages will get the new benefits Tenboro is adding to prof.

Chosen has one of the best estocs in the game, I believe it was loaned to needaname, and currently skillchip? He prefers mage due his awful ping through.
Not sure if DwD is fair comparison though given that schoolgirls aren't exactly regular monsters (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

As for future patches, mage patch will come with monster lab change patch, which can largely buff monster stats, particularly resist which means bigger chance of survival for mage-munching. Furthermore, spells will have cooldowns - maybe even offensive spells?(currently not planned but possible).

Chosen has one of the best estocs in the game, I believe it was loaned to needaname, and currently skillchip? He prefers mage due his awful ping through.

Sorta, he has a legendary one I'll give him that. Burden is high as fuck and it's only been forged 38 times last I checked. One of the best in the game? Not even top 10. Ah yes, his ping, his reasoning that he always gives for why he switched (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . Why doesn't he admit that it's a shitload faster to mage regardless of his ping? Oh yes, because he enjoys trolling melees and acting like they're OP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) .

Hm. He has said he would melee if he had <150 ping. And it's been forged more than twice that more since you last checked (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) are there even 10 legendary estocs of slaughter, though? Judging from other high-end gear.....

Him trolling melees is also one of his goals though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

This post has been edited by Lement: Apr 28 2013, 19:21

Hm. He has said he would melee if he had <150 ping. And it's been forged more than twice that more since you last checked (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) are there even 10 legendary estocs of slaughter, though? Judging from other high-end gear.....

Yes, there is more than 10. Plus I count ones like Sushi's forged Magnificent Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter better than his because of forging, proc, and etherealness (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (Setebos's Mag Hallowed is pretty damn good too, perfect proc and forged as fuck). But anyway, who has legendary estocs of slaughter going through my list:

danixxx
xtech22
noneya
Htnax
gkay
dsax
HTTP/308
RIDERT
cmx
Mantra64
Slobber
Azru
ozykkkk
lrgendjemand
4everlost

and my list isn't even complete.

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Apr 28 2013, 19:46

Could we see that list of "current top 10 (20, 50, 100) equips in the game" somewhere? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Preferably in the wiki...
I mean with equipment links of course.

This post has been edited by kserox: Apr 28 2013, 20:08

Could we see that list of "current top 10 (20, 50, 100) equips in the game" somewhere?

What list? How would you rank them overall?

Could we see that list of "current top 10 (20, 50, 100) equips in the game" somewhere? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Preferably in the wiki...
I mean with equipment links of course.

And beyond ranking them, how would we get that information? Not many players actually contribute to the wiki, and this is a much more subjective list than a highest PL monster list. Even then, that's only sporadically updated by maybe two or three people - a far cry from the presumably minimum of 50 players needed for the 100 equip list.

Actually, I can't even see a site widget or feature being made for this - again, monsters are straightforward.
Valued Equips? Those change from patch to patch, and different stats have the most weight for different players, based on personal preference and play-style.
Do you want a list of the most heavily forged Legendaries? You'll get some trolls maxing out daggers, longswords and redwoods. Equips with the highest rolls in everything, or the highest quality score pre-forging? Again, very few "respectable" equips will be on your list.

TL;DR? Give us a definition of "top equip".

10 by each stat in each group with each quality mod

TL;DR? Give us a definition of "top equip".

Whatever most top players here consider "top equip". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Seriously, I'm not sure. It's just everybody's here talking about some epic estocs...
I'm not asking for 'Hard Ranking Approved By Everybody'. Just random list of beyond good equips.

This post has been edited by kserox: Apr 28 2013, 21:54

Would my Club and Rapier count? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

How come some of you people seem have info about future patch? Tenb said so in IRC? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

This post has been edited by buktore: Apr 29 2013, 07:51

Probably some IRC (if only I could get the web client to not lolfail so often). Some of the rest is from this thread.

How come some of you people seem have info about future patch? Tenb said so in IRC? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

No.

We pay tenboro for private dances (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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Mace's AoE stun effect is OP.
The stun chance/duration should be vastly reduced, or attack on stun target has a chance to wake it.


And for Niten, wakizashi's bleeding stats is of zero use I think?
Any chance to give it some value?

Mace's AoE stun effect is OP.
The stun chance/duration should be vastly reduced, or attack on stun target has a chance to wake it.

No, mace is not OP. It's slow as fuck, anybody who wants to play that slow deserves to be safe, lol.

or attack on stun target has a chance to wake it.

This idea would fuck over club too, and club is only a single target stun (which is definitely not OP).

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Apr 29 2013, 18:20

No, mace is not OP. It's slow as fuck, anybody who wants to play that slow deserves to be safe, lol.

Better safe then sorry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Mace's AoE stun effect is OP.
The stun chance/duration should be vastly reduced, or attack on stun target has a chance to wake it.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(insert random pony reactionimage here)

This post has been edited by kserox: Apr 29 2013, 18:21

Lol, maces being OP.

Maybe in the past, when Stun made you do double damage.

But now, it's absolutely not OP at all.