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Make LotD affect trophies already. You can prevent trophies from being bought from the bazaar; any trophies sold are auto-deleted from the bazaar.

IMO, the trophies being sold off to the bazaar may most likely be from the lower level players, either they are short of funds, or they have yet to fully understand the game. Personally I haven't seen that many trophies being sold off, or maybe, it just there for a second & gone the next. I think we should still allow the selling/buying of such.

That is a ratio, so it takes ~40% more turns for each 50 levels for melee and ~10% for mage

*cough*character reset*cough*

Actually I wouldn't mind being level 0 again if I got to keep all my gear, items, monsters, trainings, perks, shrine ability points and stats. But that wouldn't be a reset now would it lol

This post has been edited by skillchip: Feb 20 2012, 05:47

Maybe there should be a threshold for character resets, like up to lvl50 or up to level 100 would be allowed free character resets since lower level always seem to experiment with their characters before deciding on a playing style.

Actually I wouldn't mind being level 0 again if I got to keep all my gear, items, monsters, trainings, perks, shrine ability points and stats. But that wouldn't be a reset now would it lol

- For every level 300+ characters, add a big, fancy sounding, and eye catching option under the level display. Clicking it set your character level to 1
- Leave gears everything in ability and training page intact. Reset everything else.
- Add a second row of (IMG:[g.ehgt.org] http://g.ehgt.org/hv050/img/at/pt1-0.png),(IMG:[g.ehgt.org] http://g.ehgt.org/hv050/img/at/pt3-0.png), or (IMG:[g.ehgt.org] http://g.ehgt.org/hv050/img/at/pt5-0.png) under every ability. And scale every abilities & spell strength accordingly.
- Do a similar thing to training page.
- Add some kind of fancy prefix, title, cute little picture, whatever, to the player's name and level display in the forum.
- ????
- HV become fun again?

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Maybe there should be a threshold for character resets, like up to lvl50 or up to level 100 would be allowed free character resets since lower level always seem to experiment with their characters before deciding on a playing style.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) ... But everything can already be, in practice, 'Reset' ... Except for the Aura, which isn't such a big deal, more so at low level.

This post has been edited by buktore: Feb 20 2012, 10:18

- For every level 300+ characters, add a big, fancy sounding, and eye catching option under the level display. Clicking it set your character level to 1
- Leave gears everything in ability and training page intact. Reset everything else.
- Add a second row of (IMG:[g.ehgt.org] http://g.ehgt.org/hv050/img/at/pt1-0.png),(IMG:[g.ehgt.org] http://g.ehgt.org/hv050/img/at/pt3-0.png), or (IMG:[g.ehgt.org] http://g.ehgt.org/hv050/img/at/pt5-0.png) under every ability. And scale every abilities & spell strength accordingly.
- Do a similar thing to training page.
- Add some kind of fancy prefix, title, cute little picture, whatever, to the player's name and level display in the forum.
- ????
- HV become fun again?

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) ... But everything can already be, in practice, 'Reset' ... Except for the Aura, which isn't such a big deal, more so at low level.

Prestige mode

inb4 Reincarnation system

inb4 Reincarnation system

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If Tenb manages to fix HV so we will get stronger from level ups it would not be that hard to create a non overpowered Rebirth System.

You need to be level 350+ (300 is too easy thanks to custom mobs.)
And maybe a expensive training must be done to start re birthing.

Just add one new tier to all spells and tanks and make Primary Stat upgrades slightly cheaper. Rebirth however comes with slower EXP gains so you will take long to reach lvl 300+ again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Perks, Training, Auras, Equipment, Inventory and Monsters will be kept but everything else will be nuked.

Not sure if want since it will lock me out from the lucrative Arenas for many months.

No please, not anything like the freaking Etrian Odyssey II that I'm playing now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

No please, not anything like the freaking Etrian Odyssey II that I'm playing now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

That game is boss and you know it! Though applying such a thing to HV might be a rather difficult, both in balancing and coding, honestly it would be better if high level users gained the ability to unlock an upgraded version of arenas that are already there. Starting with First Blood have a single round that can only be played at the difficulty of IWTBH (or Battletoads) and fighting a legendary, and the rewards could be something like an artifact, stack of crystals/restoratives, hell - you could even bring back restoring all health/mana after each round (you'd need it). If Tenboro feels like being sadistic (or just pissed that we do nothing but complain about the unfairness of HV) he could even add a x50 and x100 difficulty for the masochists among us while locking out anything below hell (on the second run through of course). That or make new equipment classes (though I wouldn't recommend it seeing that it's hard enough getting a good set of equipment that lasts).

This post has been edited by bakabombdood: Feb 20 2012, 18:24

'Rebirth' is such a bad idea ... But if it provide Tenb a long sought-after excuse to cleanse HV of all the leftover 'Filth' people got from the past version, it might not be such a bad idea. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

'Rebirth' is such a bad idea ...

And besides, we already have one. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

(IMG:[i2.lulzimg.com] http://i2.lulzimg.com/dabeffafcb.jpg)

This post has been edited by Evil Scorpio: Feb 20 2012, 19:07

Might as well do it VP2-style (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

• Rebirth is unlocked at level 300
• An insanely strong boss/arena must be defeated/completed to be reborn
• After each Rebirth, monster HP scale by one level (1 Rebirth → Normal = Hard, 2 Rebirths → Normal = Heroic, etc.)
• You retain all your stuff (weapons/items)
• Get reborn 10 times and you get the Angel Slayer
• Angel Slayer = weapon with insane ADB/MDB that does completely random damage (ie, useless)

"Rebirth" idea is moronic at best and only works if it has a unique and worthwhile reward waiting at the end. Plus, it's only a gimmicky device to extend gameplay hours when a game is so short that you would feel cheated otherwise.

HV doesn't need this because it's free and has unlimited hours of gameplay. And retaining all equipment/items/trainings/monsters/etc? That's a glorified level reset. Games I have played let you keep one weapon, if anything. No one with rare equipment would ever choose this, especially the ones with equipment that can't drop any more. If they did it anyway, it would lead to rampant abuse of Moogle to work around the reset and still keep everything.

[*]After each Rebirth, monster HP scale by one level (1 Rebirth → Normal = Hard, 2 Rebirths → Normal = Heroic, etc.)

You already got it. Except it's more like 2+ levels.

- Monster health now scales by an additional factor of 1/200 per level. Monster health bonus for increasing difficulty was decreased

To compare:

CODE

                Level   Normal  Hard    Heroic  Nightm. Hell    Ninten. BT      IWBTH
Pre-patch       -       100%    150%    250%    400%    500%    700%    1000%   2500%
Post-patch      1       101%    151%    201%    251%    302%    402%    503%    1005%
Post-patch      50      125%    188%    250%    313%    375%    500%    625%    1250%
Post-patch      100     150%    225%    300%    375%    450%    600%    750%    1500%
Post-patch      150     175%    263%    350%    438%    525%    700%    875%    1750%
Post-patch      200     200%    300%    400%    500%    600%    800%    1000%   2000%
Post-patch      250     225%    338%    450%    563%    675%    900%    1125%   2250%
Post-patch      300     250%    375%    500%    625%    750%    1000%   1250%   2500%
Current         327     264%    395%    527%    659%    791%    1054%   1318%   2635%
Post-patch      350     275%    413%    550%    688%    825%    1100%   1375%   2750%

Gets worse the higher you go :/

TL;DR
Let's try letting Tenboro finish coding one playthrough of HV before demanding resets or "rebirths." I'm still waiting on features that were in the works up to a year ago.

This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Feb 20 2012, 20:22

How about a compromise and a way to turn off exp for increased drops/quality (I know this has been suggested before)

And one good thing about "Rebirth" would be it giving him more time for those that are getting too high up there.

FYI, I didn't ask for, and don't want or care about, this 'Rebirth' feature.

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As for incentive for high difficulty, allow me make an additional propose about incentive for your consideration :

I'm not sure if Tenb will have the balls to actually increase the base drop rate as a bonus since it will increase the amount of credit gain as well...

How about reduce the chance of 'Junk' equipment drop rate? ... You know- Cotton, Buckler, Leather, and stuff. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

It would stil increase credit gain, but not as much.

Can we have titles that hinder your battle potential but give bonuses as a result? Something that halves the damage done from everything but as a result, you gain more credits, have higher loot quality, more likely to find artifacts, etc.

EDIT: We also need some kind of Autotrainer. Like, you pay enough credits to do X Training Z times and it goes straight to the next level after the current one is finished. Maybe set up a training queue so that you can still select something while training's in progress, but the next one in line will be trained when the current one is done. Although it needs to be updated so that as soon as you start training something, the new display price will be for the next level instead of the one you just paid.

This post has been edited by wrinty: Feb 21 2012, 05:10

well there was montages, but that was replaced by Assimilator training.

I think he is referring to trainings such as adept learner just going on repeat

Yup~! Being able to pay in advance and have it train you up to a certain level would save up a lot of time, especially for the cheap, one hour training ones.