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Jun 9 2011, 05:55
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Raidy
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jun 9 2011, 12:59)  @Tenb: Serious Idea Occuring!
So... I was thinking... why don't we have a 'decrease' button to go along with the 'increase' button for primary stats? It seems like a simple way to adjust our stats without needing to reset them entirely. Not that we can reset them, but this way we could mess with our stats when new updates come out, which would be pretty fucking awesome.
I would like to be able to adjust the primary stats as well
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Jun 9 2011, 13:11
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visara
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(IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/zJNWb.png) I don't think the Stamina text is supposed to be above the box while all the other text is below... (Firefox 4, Top = custom font, Bottom-left = downloadable font, Bottom-right = default font)
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Jun 9 2011, 15:59
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Maximum_Joe
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Clearly the stamina smilie is laughing at you for (almost) picking EXP tank.
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Jun 9 2011, 16:22
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jun 9 2011, 04:59)  So... I was thinking... why don't we have a 'decrease' button to go along with the 'increase' button for primary stats? It seems like a simple way to adjust our stats without needing to reset them entirely. Not that we can reset them, but this way we could mess with our stats when new updates come out, which would be pretty fucking awesome. It's on the to-do list. I dunno if you noticed that display changed slightly in the last patch; that was me thinking about adding it, but since it was Saturday and the patch was already kinda big I decided to ship it as it was. (Which isn't saying that it'll necessarily be in the next one.) QUOTE(visara @ Jun 9 2011, 13:11)  I don't think the Stamina text is supposed to be above the box while all the other text is below... I know about that, just couldn't be arsed to fix it yet. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jun 9 2011, 20:10
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jun 9 2011, 10:22)  It's on the to-do list. I dunno if you noticed that display changed slightly in the last patch; that was me thinking about adding it, but since it was Saturday and the patch was already kinda big I decided to ship it as it was. (Which isn't saying that it'll necessarily be in the next one.)
Woot! I did in fact notice the display changes which is what reminded me about the idea (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Well, I can always hope it's in the next one, but knowing you're working on it at all means I can put my next billion EXP into INT and still eventually change it to STR and DEX to try out melee, so I'm good (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Edit: Would you consider changing (or at least tell us why not) the part where difficulty doesn't affect arena clear bonus reward? This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Jun 9 2011, 20:25
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Jun 9 2011, 22:30
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Bunko
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QUOTE(Annoyed @ Jun 9 2011, 06:00)  Add the Scroll of Accuracy
Hail a fellow melee fighter ! Can't guarantee what I say here is 100% accurate, but it may help you. (last post on teh bottom) https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...5540&st=260My accuracy has been 90%+ for a hella long time, Check out the.. Derived Attributes Here: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Character_StatsIf you know how to use excel (I just think I can) You can become the best melee you can be with the derived attributes. Here's a tip you must not tell anyone ok ? I thought that the best Scythe is the best 2 hander you can have... But it's actually a good Estoc. If you can't survive with a 2 handed weapon, use rapier+shield (slow but strong) Some quick tips: Interference over 25 causes a reduction in magical proficiencies. (Less heal OR Regen) Every point of burden above 20 reduces action speed by 1. (ouch, Haste FTW) I also thought, that wearing all priestess armor, using Regen, is the holy grail. Since then I've learned, you wanna use a mixture of Earth-Walker + Priestess, to max yourself. Don't have autocast buffs on ? Ok, priestess is the best. For autocasts, Haste is the most important. Did I properly confuse AND not answer your request there in any way ? Cool ! This post has been edited by Bunko: Jun 9 2011, 22:41
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Jun 10 2011, 13:52
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eovcoo5
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Need a Trainer or Hath Perks
effects : decrease stamina costs
Trainer decrease stamina costs but up the wrong answer penalty
like costs 0.001 per round + wrong answer punishment in drop 50 80 100 points of stamina set first maze is hardest show up with enter battlefield soon + ( random 1 hardest maze + 2 normal maze )
1+3 maze to pass through game play , every 300 rounds of game play = 4 times maze
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how about this correction
if you active this Training or Hath Perks
you Grindfest turn in limited at the same of old version like 3000/day
you Training or Hath Perks level UP you limited get UP but still limited
it's complete fair right ?
this Training or Hath Perks complete according you personal wish to active
you don't like it you just ignore it
please if you agree with this idea or write something about your advice
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Jun 10 2011, 14:06
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(teeeen @ Jun 10 2011, 07:52)  Need a Trainer ...
I knew someone was going to suggest this; I'm honestly surprised it took this long. It would be stupid to increase the maze penalty - no other training has any downside, and we spend enough credits on them that it would be unfair as hell. I'm betting (if Tenb does make the training) that there will be 10 levels, each increasing the stamina regen rate by somewhere between 5%-10% of the base (my guess would be leaning closer to 5 than 10, but hey, we can always hope for 10). Another possibility would be to simply increase the power of the drinks with training, but despite all the ideas I or anyone else come up with I'm pretty sure Tenb's already thought about it, decided, and simply not implemented it yet (if he's going to at all). This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Jun 10 2011, 14:08
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Jun 10 2011, 14:19
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eovcoo5
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i am sorry for my poor english
try to explain why up maze penalty
because we know Maze and Stamina system is protect against cheater
but we are not cheater just normal game player
currently Stamina system is costs too much for a normal player i play a day hv Stamina now is 27 need 4 drinks costs 48000 Credits too much for a normal player
penalty up and costs down is equal
no change main function of Maze and Stamina system
it is still can stop cheater but free the normal player from pressure of Stamina
just decrease you drink times save you credits
and it's In accordance With you individual wish to training or not training
you can ignore it playing under normal Stamina system
you training it
you won't be worry about drinks
just concentrate in find right answer and play
if i put wrong answer i must acceptance of punishment it's fair !
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Jun 10 2011, 14:32
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Raidy
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well how about a training to increase your MAX stamina points?
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Jun 10 2011, 14:37
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cryomorph
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QUOTE(teeeen @ Jun 10 2011, 20:19)  because we know Maze and Stamina system is protect against cheater
Stamina, as itself, has been introduced for to compensate unlimited grindfests. If you play only IW and arenas with normal status you receive enough artifacts to recover it. (20 stamina = 2000 rounds = 4 or 5 artifacts = 1 energy drink) This post has been edited by cryomorph: Jun 10 2011, 14:41
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Jun 10 2011, 14:40
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eovcoo5
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QUOTE(Raidy @ Jun 10 2011, 20:32)  well how about a training to increase your MAX stamina points?
i think about it if MAX stamina points up it is unfair to penalty function you get 1000 stamina
put the wrong answer is max penalty 20 stamina = you can wrong many times
it 's diminish the main function of this system
maze build for stop cheating right ?
Riddles master and Tenboro only need right answer to show up you are not cheating
we must keep post right answer to show up we are human not cheating bots
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Jun 10 2011, 14:50
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eovcoo5
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QUOTE(cryomorph @ Jun 10 2011, 20:37)  Stamina, as itself, has been introduced for to compensate unlimited grindfests.
how many grindfests you play everyday
4000+ 8000+ ?
through this training you can reduce Stamina costs but up you answer risky
unlimited grindfests = unlimited Credits ?
no
under this training you have less Stamina costs
but every 300 rounds get Random 4 maze 2 hardest + 2 normal
you wrong you gets 80 Stamina down = costs 48000+ Credits
in other words you must keep high attention
i don't think a player like doing this grindfests a whole day
so i think 4000+ grindfests with high attention is acceptable for a normal player
this training is according you personal wish
you can training also you can ignore it
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Jun 10 2011, 15:27
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varst
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If the stamina system is changed, most probably the credit limit for grindfest will return. I am sure nobody like that.
If you have out some effort into Scavenger and Archaeologist you should probably get 4-5 artifacts for every 1000-2000 rounds, just like cryomorph have said. If the stamina cost is lowered by training, then we can probably get so many energy drinks that we can grindfest as much as before the patch, without any credit limit. therefore i don't think it's a good idea to have stamina cost reduced.
The current stamina system is really friendly towards players. Changing that will only cause trouble. That maybe the reason why nobody's talking about that anymore.
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Jun 10 2011, 15:57
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(varst @ Jun 10 2011, 14:27)  The current stamina system is really friendly towards players. Changing that will only cause trouble. That maybe the reason why nobody's talking about that anymore.
The reason nobody are talking about is because the system is working. The only change that could be made in the future would be a increase in how much stamina is spent. Although with the hath prices increasing, and with crystals successfully working as credit sink, probably won't happen.
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Jun 10 2011, 16:01
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eovcoo5
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QUOTE(varst @ Jun 10 2011, 21:27)  If the stamina system is changed, most probably the credit limit for grindfest will return. I am sure nobody like that.
If you have out some effort into Scavenger and Archaeologist you should probably get 4-5 artifacts for every 1000-2000 rounds, just like cryomorph have said. If the stamina cost is lowered by training, then we can probably get so many energy drinks that we can grindfest as much as before the patch, without any credit limit. therefore i don't think it's a good idea to have stamina cost reduced.
The current stamina system is really friendly towards players. Changing that will only cause trouble. That maybe the reason why nobody's talking about that anymore.
please read Post #1514 thank you i repeat you get low costs but have risky and it's according you personal wish i don't think it will bring about inflation to make tenboro set grindfest limit if does that's right limit is REGULATION is good thing for every player you like unlimited grindfest to make you rich but i like the Credits has no devalue
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Jun 10 2011, 16:09
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eovcoo5
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jun 10 2011, 21:57)  The reason nobody are talking about is because the system is working. The only change that could be made in the future would be a increase in how much stamina is spent. Although with the hath prices increasing, and with crystals successfully working as credit sink, probably won't happen.
Master cmdct do you means you agree with my idea ? and may be this change is not across Trainer but Hath Perks like Crystarium I-III ?
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Jun 10 2011, 16:15
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varst
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jun 10 2011, 21:57)  The reason nobody are talking about is because the system is working. The only change that could be made in the future would be a increase in how much stamina is spent. Although with the hath prices increasing, and with crystals successfully working as credit sink, probably won't happen.
I don't quite understand what it means by increase in spending stamina, and its relation with hath and crystals. If you don't mind i would like some further explanation. QUOTE(teeeen @ Jun 10 2011, 22:01)  please read Post #1514 thank you
i repeat
you get low costs but have risky and it's according you personal wish
i don't think it will bring about inflation to make tenboro set grindfest limit
if does
that's right
limit is REGULATION is good thing for every player
you like unlimited grindfest to make you rich
but i like the Credits has no devalue
First, please tell me why regulation is good for every player. Secondly, the stamina system is rewarding those who play hard to earn more credits. Please explain why some people can only earn 3000 credits for thousands rounds of play, when some people who play less can also earn that 3000 credits.
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Jun 10 2011, 16:29
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eovcoo5
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QUOTE(varst @ Jun 10 2011, 22:15)  First, please tell me why regulation is good for every player.
Secondly, the stamina system is rewarding those who play hard to earn more credits. Please explain why some people can only earn 3000 credits for thousands rounds of play, when some people who play less can also earn that 3000 credits.
you frist question i can't explain you ask me let me explain "why this world needs Law" Secondly you talk about that people do not need reduce Stamina costs they aren't cheating victim
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Jun 10 2011, 17:00
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eovcoo5
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@ varst
OK
i start thinking about your advice
you think currently Maze and Stamina is good
because you can play unlimited grindfest to earn Credits and artifacts to gets energy drink
yes you are right and perhaps 99.99% players doing same things like you
but i am still want to fight for this change
wish you understand me
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