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post Feb 19 2016, 01:56
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Can you remove the bunny word filter? Have it say N-word or nizzle instead perhaps? Bunnies are cute and I like to talk about bunnies but not bunnies. I can override the word filter to say what it's supposed to say and have done it quite often but I won't do it here.
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post Feb 19 2016, 14:04
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 9 2016, 14:42) *

Equipment auction houses are [us.battle.net] detrimental more than anything else, so that's unlikely to ever happen.

How were they detrimental? Although I quit playing D3 before they removed them, the auction house was vastly better than the D2 method. And, once you reached a certain level of gear, the only way to get upgrades without lottery-winning levels of luck or spending all your free time playing.

PS I'm not suggesting adding an AH, just wondering why people don't like them.

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post Feb 19 2016, 18:39
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QUOTE(Drawde @ Feb 19 2016, 13:04) *
And, once you reached a certain level of gear, the only way to get upgrades without lottery-winning levels of luck or spending all your free time playing.


Obviously, as soon as you had bought some near-optimal gear at the AH that was true, but if you never did that in the first place, you would still be finding upgrades organically.
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post Feb 19 2016, 22:35
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 19 2016, 08:39) *

Obviously, as soon as you had bought some near-optimal gear at the AH that was true, but if you never did that in the first place, you would still be finding upgrades organically.

I haven't seen an upgrade in months that I haven't bought, though I'm just VERY casual (mostly play a few random encounters a day, at most). But I understand that these types of games are designed around playing at least a couple hours a day so I'm not complaining about it. But I DID play D3 like that and, in average gear, could only find upgrades in the AH. There were three methods of getting upgrades: luck, playing trader instead of the game, or playing 6+ hours a day seven days a week (in other words, a second job). And luck wasn't cutting it for the vast majority of the players.

Due to the random nature of these games most of the gear you'll find, regardless of how good it is, will be useless to you. All those staffs you keep finding are worthless to a melee build. So your best bet to get upgrades is trading your worthless staffs for someone else's worthless swords. But D2's method wasted hours where you had to wade through hoards of scammers trying to find something you wanted instead of playing the game. Fine if you like trading, but not if you liked D2. Which is why I liked D3's AH: I could spend a little time putting my items up for sale, briefly look for upgrades, and spend the rest of my time actually playing the game.

I understand that my current playstyle in HV isn't going to get me upgrades anytime soon, and we have the forums for trading so don't need an AH. But in D3 you could go weeks without finding an upgrade in slightly above average gear unless you played constantly, which isn't fun in an item based game for casual players.
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post Feb 19 2016, 23:09
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QUOTE(Drawde @ Feb 19 2016, 21:35) *

I haven't seen an upgrade in months that I haven't bought, though I'm just VERY casual (mostly play a few random encounters a day, at most). But I understand that these types of games are designed around playing at least a couple hours a day so I'm not complaining about it. But I DID play D3 like that and, in average gear, could only find upgrades in the AH. There were three methods of getting upgrades: luck, playing trader instead of the game, or playing 6+ hours a day seven days a week (in other words, a second job). And luck wasn't cutting it for the vast majority of the players.


I haven't played a lot of D3, but naturally, if you have already traded or found the 99.9th percentile quality gear for a gear slot and type, you will need to get on average 1000 drops for that particular gear slot and type to get something that's as good or better than what you have.

However, finding the 99.9th percentile quality gear is much, much easier with a centralized AH where lots of players dump their good-but-useless-to-them gear, compared to if you have to loot it organically. Which means that buying from an AH will reduce the possibility to find upgrades organically much, much faster.

The only way for a game to counter the effect of a centralized auction house is the WoW approach, where you continually move the goal posts. Which is fine if you have a large staff that sit around all day doing nothing but designing new phat loot to replace the soon-to-be-obsolete stuff that drops today, as well as tougher raids/monsters to actually use them, and repeat that every few months.

Could we do something similar and add some kind of inflation to equipment where drops automatically get a little better every month, and automatically raise monster stats by a similar bit to compensate? Sure we could, but it would feel super cheap. And if a centralized AH was added, I'd basically be forced to. So I'm not going to.
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post Feb 19 2016, 23:16
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QUOTE(Drawde @ Feb 19 2016, 12:04) *

I'm not suggesting adding an AH, just wondering why people don't like them.


Because new D3 ROS make a change: you will no longer get the item that you can't wear. So AH is no longer needed.

In HV, it looks like if you are a mage you will never get those useless heavy or light armor.
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post Feb 19 2016, 23:43
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I kind of wish we had ability sets. It'd be nice to not have reset skills every time I want to switch fighting styles, but that's just me being lazy.
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post Feb 19 2016, 23:54
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Pony-senpai didn't notice me.

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post Feb 19 2016, 23:59
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 19 2016, 21:09) *

Could we do something similar and add some kind of inflation to equipment where drops automatically get a little better every month, and automatically raise monster stats by a similar bit to compensate? Sure we could, but it would feel super cheap. And if a centralized AH was added, I'd basically be forced to. So I'm not going to.


Agree, number games are boring. effort should be used in other interesting place.
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post Feb 20 2016, 01:07
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QUOTE(gc00018 @ Feb 19 2016, 22:16) *
Because new D3 ROS make a change: you will no longer get the item that you can't wear. So AH is no longer needed.

In HV, it looks like if you are a mage you will never get those useless heavy or light armor.


Instead of doing that, I'd rather entice people into wanting to collect the best possible variants of all of the things. And the primary way to do that was mostly put in with 0.82/0.83, I just need to put the UI and some minor logic together to actually enable it.

QUOTE(Crush85 @ Feb 19 2016, 22:43) *
I kind of wish we had ability sets. It'd be nice to not have reset skills every time I want to switch fighting styles, but that's just me being lazy.


Which is basically what I'm planning on adding.

QUOTE(Sesshomaru Moon @ Feb 19 2016, 22:54) *

Pony-senpai didn't notice me.


I don't generally like to make "no you cannot have thing" posts unless I feel a need to explain why..
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post Feb 20 2016, 01:58
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 19 2016, 23:07) *

Which is basically what I'm planning on adding.


When talk about ability, as a high-level player, I can easily max the ability of 2 sets.
Will there any plan make choosing ability more challenging? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 20 2016, 02:54
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QUOTE(gc00018 @ Feb 19 2016, 21:59) *

Agree, number games are boring. effort should be used in other interesting place.


I like number games, tenboro stop making the number games we have so damn complicated that people don't realize we have them!
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post Feb 20 2016, 03:47
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Maybe substitute bunny to say pony?
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post Feb 20 2016, 06:29
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i wanted to try others builds but the proficiencies is just a big turn off

no way im farming one from 0 to near my level.

on other topic.. cant pink slot have others useful abilities ?

its just an useless slot currently.
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post Feb 20 2016, 15:17
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QUOTE(gc00018 @ Feb 20 2016, 00:58) *

Will there any plan make choosing ability more challenging? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


The ability system, like most other things, is not complete.
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post Feb 20 2016, 15:27
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QUOTE(formigao @ Feb 20 2016, 06:29) *

i wanted to try others builds but the proficiencies is just a big turn off

no way im farming one from 0 to near my level.

on other topic.. cant pink slot have others useful abilities ?

its just an useless slot currently.


actually proficiencies that are lesser that approximately 80% of your current level is very fast to obtain (from 30 to 250 cloth armor it takes only a week for me ).
I tried them all. The best in my opinion is mage and 1H, but the quantity of ability points that needed is making me sad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ( now I need fight all day to buy 1 AP)

about pink slot for melee I think it's useless, for mage it's help to maintain your spirit points needed for spark of life and spirit shield (but not really that effective)
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post Feb 20 2016, 15:31
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Chance to create a slot when you soul bind...

Now you need many 99.9th percentile gears and drop rate can be buffed a little.

-Casuals can find gear, though good gear isn't very expensive on teh market atm.

-Hardcore players can even more obsessed with what is the best.
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post Feb 20 2016, 22:47
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 20 2016, 13:17) *

The ability system, like most other things, is not complete.


Sounds like the compete ability system will be interesting. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 20 2016, 22:51
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QUOTE(gc00018 @ Feb 21 2016, 04:47) *

Sounds like the compete ability system will be interesting. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

But its always soon™
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post Feb 20 2016, 23:07
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 19 2016, 19:07) *

Which is basically what I'm planning on adding.


Sweet. Many thanks, your Pony Overlordship.
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