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post Jan 13 2015, 02:40
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Can't we just stick with the auction syndrome thing? It sounds like it would be a whole lot less trouble, not to mention waaaay cheaper if you factor in the cost of catalysts and stuff. Whatever happened to all the fun things we were supposed to get, like accesories and shit? Please explain why we need this, unless there's some underlying reason you're not letting on to, like people aren't spending enough on catalysts or something. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

QUOTE(danixxx @ Jan 12 2015, 21:12) *

I'm looking at the shitstorm from far away, i'd rather wait to see the patch and complain after.

HV 0.8.3. HV max level was doubled from 500 to 1000. Watch it happen.

QUOTE(jenga201 @ Jan 12 2015, 22:34) *

Personally, I don't care if all of my current gear becomes 'useless' as long as its possible for me to start with the new system and get some great stuff.

Now imagine you're lvl.50 and need to to re-IW and upgrade your set every 30-50 levels with all the costs and time sinks involved.

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post Jan 13 2015, 02:45
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QUOTE(chivoef @ Jan 12 2015, 19:40) *

Now imagine you're lvl.50 and need to to re-IW and upgrade your set every 30-50 levels with all the costs and time sinks involved.


yeah.. play the game. I don't get it.

Did you forget somewhere along the way, said equipment is easier to obtain ?
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post Jan 13 2015, 02:50
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Jan 13 2015, 01:45) *

yeah.. play the game. I don't get it.

Did you forget somewhere along the way, said equipment is easier to obtain ?

Sorry, I forgot to mention that not everyone is made of credits. I'm probably better off than most people but I'm not sure I could afford to redo everything even every half year.
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post Jan 13 2015, 06:22
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Jan 13 2015, 11:45) *

yeah.. play the game. I don't get it.

Did you forget somewhere along the way, said equipment is easier to obtain ?


You can't IW very efficiently until around level 300, and only with the "correct" builds. And now their IW set will stop being "correct" every 20 levels.


Equipment's better be 100x easier to obtain, or else I'm sure I'm going to enjoy your complaining about not getting upgrades fast enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 13 2015, 06:43
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Jan 12 2015, 19:59) *

Considering how difficult it is to gain levels


Maybe it is fine for you, a Level-484 player, but not for those lower level player. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Especially for the Golden stars and Catgirls, they may feel much weaker because they got much more EXP bouns.
At least give them some ways to overcome the problems.
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post Jan 13 2015, 09:24
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QUOTE(gc00018 @ Jan 13 2015, 12:43) *

Maybe it is fine for you, a Level-484 player, but not for those lower level player. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Especially for the Golden stars and Catgirls, they may feel much weaker because they got much more EXP bouns.
At least give them some ways to overcome the problems.



it cost 10days to upgrade 1 level for me,and i play only cold mage.

that means i need to upgrade 6 gear once i get a new level.(is that right?)

Even so i'm worry about the drop rate of the "rare" thing for upgrading my gears.

for most game,getting a new level is a good result for me because i can get more powerful.

i think there should be some way to make donators like me to keep interesting on playing game itself,but not on collecting something strange.

btw: if it's possible to add some new elements to hv to activate the equipments trading market,i'd be very appreciated.
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post Jan 13 2015, 09:35
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Since the golden stars has additional EXP bouns, they support to level up a little faster.
So they shouldn't get weaker because of leveling up faster.

I have an idea:

How about give the Golden stars the item, which can adjust the item to you current player level, for free every month.
At the rate of 1 item per star per month.
For example, a 3-star player can get 3 per month.

Just make sure the Golden-star palyers can level themself up as they want without worried of equipments.
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post Jan 13 2015, 09:42
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QUOTE(gc00018 @ Jan 13 2015, 18:35) *

Since the golden stars has additional EXP bouns, they support to level up a little faster.
So they shouldn't get weaker because of leveling up faster.

I have an idea:

How about give the Golden stars the item, which can adjust the item to you current player level, for free every month.
At the rate of 1 item per star per month.
For example, a 3-star player can get 3 per month.

Just make sure the Golden-star palyers can level themself up as they want without worried of equipments.

hell, then hentai verse will become USD verse. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
I'd rather have the old IW back, and cost credits or blood token/other token to entry to work out the problem

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post Jan 13 2015, 09:58
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Dudes....
with better drop rates and maybe some tweaks to salvage you can do fine without donation stars.

Its not like you will find an upgrade every level up or the game will be unplayable just because your gear is 5-10 levels lower than character level.
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post Jan 13 2015, 11:11
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jan 13 2015, 15:58) *

Dudes....
with better drop rates and maybe some tweaks to salvage you can do fine without donation stars.

Its not like you will find an upgrade every level up or the game will be unplayable just because your gear is 5-10 levels lower than character level.



better drop rates sounds cool。
i'm looking forward to hot auctions (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 13 2015, 11:44
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QUOTE(wannaf @ Jan 13 2015, 10:11) *

better drop rates sounds cool。
i'm looking forward to hot auctions (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Assuming, for the sake of argument, that drop rates will be better... Why should people fight over an auction? There'll be good drops in the future, more chances to get something by themselves, more auctions to check and the stuff is bound to become obsolete soon anyway. Why should they spend big? They'll just wait next time and prices and bids will drop, if anything.
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post Jan 13 2015, 12:11
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Jan 13 2015, 17:44) *

Assuming, for the sake of argument, that drop rates will be better... Why should people fight over an auction? There'll be good drops in the future, more chances to get something by themselves, more auctions to check and the stuff is bound to become obsolete soon anyway. Why should they spend big? They'll just wait next time and prices and bids will drop, if anything.


you must be kidding when you think you can get a full set by your self。
i fight from 1 to 460 and none of my cold gears is gotten through fighting or shine by myself.
i think trade is the activity of a game.if not, why dont you play a singal-player game.
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post Jan 13 2015, 12:24
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The problem is that we don't know exactly how it will be easier to find new and better equipment, as Tenboro put it.

This is all armchair speculation at this point, but...

Under the new system, one possibility is that if you out-level your current equipment by a significant enough margin, then the bar for what is considered an upgrade will be very low. In this sense, it becomes "easier" to find something that is objectively better because you won't have to be picky about stat rolls or anything. It gives the whiners what they want, but not exactly what they want. It seems like a troll solution.

Furthermore, the very, very high level players may find it just as hard to find upgrades as they do now, because they level very slowly and don't have as much space left to outgrow their equipment since they are closer to the level 500 cap. When you go up one level now, the stats on your gear go up just a tiny bit. Assuming that this scaling pattern remains, how much better would a piece of equipment fixed at level 500 really be, compared to one fixed at level 485, for example? You'd have to care about the rolls to find something better. So guys at this end of the level spectrum might still have to chase the exceptionally rare uppermost echelon of drops.
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post Jan 13 2015, 12:59
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QUOTE(FAhentai @ Jan 13 2015, 07:42) *

hell, then hentai verse will become USD verse. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
I'd rather have the old IW back, and cost credits or blood token/other token to entry to work out the problem


blood token?
Nice! we can use blood token to level up our equipments in a special BOSS RUSH FIGHT!

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post Jan 13 2015, 14:26
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QUOTE(gc00018 @ Jan 13 2015, 12:59) *

blood token?
Nice! we can use blood token to level up our equipments in a special BOSS RUSH FIGHT!

But to beat the boss you need gear at your level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 13 2015, 14:53
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jan 13 2015, 13:26) *

But to beat the boss you need gear at your level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Even better: you need gear at your level just to be allowed to fight the boss...

Here comes the "You've been found lacking" arena.
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post Jan 13 2015, 14:59
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Tenboro could up to double, triple or quadruple the equipment rates with an exponential function based on level because the population will be segmented for drops with a large skew with a ton of >300 level players then dropping off over 400.

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post Jan 13 2015, 16:12
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QUOTE(chivoef @ Jan 12 2015, 19:50) *

Sorry, I forgot to mention that not everyone is made of credits.

Nothing has to do with credits. It all has to do with grinding>drops. If you get a good drop you can't use, I don't see why you can't trade it for another good drop you want. Buying everything might be very expensive, though...

You're still thinking in the old system... If what is suggested in this patch is actually implemented, it will be a completely new way of thinking about equip drops.

QUOTE(gc00018 @ Jan 12 2015, 23:43) *

Maybe it is fine for you, a Level-484 player, but not for those lower level player. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Especially for the Golden stars and Catgirls, they may feel much weaker because they got much more EXP bouns.
At least give them some ways to overcome the problems.

It's fine for me and everybody else without multiple toplist awards.
When i was gold star at lvl ~300, it took me about a full week of grinding/arenas per level. I'm thinking its possible, in the new system, to get a useable drop in a week of 4-5 hrs per day of grinding.

QUOTE(wannaf @ Jan 13 2015, 02:24) *

that means i need to upgrade 6 gear once i get a new level.(is that right?)

From what I've seen, once you gain a level, its only possible for you to get an equipment drop with better (slightly) stats. It doesn't mean your existing equipment is total crap or unequipable.
Would it make logical sense to upgrade all your equipment each time you level?


Sry for long post, but I just want to see some changes to existing mechanics to make this game potentially more fun. I'm tired of grinding so much to be rewarded with superior items for the past 5 months from these supposed high drop bonus arenas.
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post Jan 13 2015, 17:58
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Better loot rate sounds cool, but even give you 10 times loot rate, what can we got? 0.0025 % Legendary item drop rate, and most of them are leather ? cotton?

I really hope we can get more eq useful by self, since shop and auction may RIP after so called "soul bound" patch release.

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post Jan 13 2015, 18:22
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There won't be better drop rates, just "less trollish drops". I guess that means that stats with high max (in particular, those boosted by the suffix or prefix) will have a better chance to roll high, or that the min value for those stats will be raised.

Don't spit on cotton. Prof cotton (Elementalist, Heaven-Sent, Demon-Fiend) is great.
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