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It's already a bit better than the current proposal, but still not satisfactory at all.

Yes. It's a solution in the same vein as the original, only it just doesn't outright break a lot of things. But I'm too still sure neither will work particularly well with current game mechanics.

Like most other major changes I've seen, if something screws things up too badly for players Tenboro will tweak/fix/(remove?) it as needed.

I agree this will change how things are done, but we don't know EXACTLY how until it's implemented and we all poke at it for a few weeks.

I personally will have no opinion on the changes until I can see them in action.

Neklolor master of online game balance (with 14 posts) has spoken. All bow in awe.

If I read 10B message correctly, I think the equipment drop by high level players is still usable by low level players before anyone equip it.

it will surely be this way. but at this point 'virgin' good equipments will be even more expensive (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

IMO, the only way to make players always getting upgrade is to cap the dropped item quality to player's level. And limit the use of high quality equipment by level as well .

IMO, the only way to make players always getting upgrade is to cap the dropped item quality to player's level. And limit the use of high quality equipment by level as well .

As in "only lvl 450+ players will find and can use Peerless drops", "only lvl 400+ will find and can use Legendaries", and so on?

I'm not entirely convinced, but it's already leaps and bounds better than *freezing* good equip stats based on the first player who happens to use it.

So what gonna happen next patch? I got totally confused. Is that means we gonna go back to the dark age that all the gears have a level cap and to make things worse there is no IW to increase the cap in the future? If that is true, this game will become totally unreasonable. Finally it will be like "the more level you get the weaker you will become", on top of this, the new level system will make the new players much harder to live in this game.

"the more level you get the weaker you will become"

Very likely, I think we need an option to stop gaining EXP, like pay 1000 hath to stop gaining and pay another 1000 hath to reopen it too.

An interesting option would be to have the Bound Level generated at random rather than having it bound to the player level of whoever dropped it.

An interesting option would be to have the Bound Level generated at random rather than having it bound to the player level of whoever dropped it.

Just to screw with players a lilttle more... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Very likely, I think we need an option to stop gaining EXP, like pay 1000 hath to stop gaining and pay another 1000 hath to reopen it too.

Pretty steep.

Considering how difficult it is to gain levels, I doubt players will out-level gear as badly and quickly as you think.

Pretty steep.

Considering how difficult it is to gain levels, I doubt players will out-level gear as badly and quickly as you think.

So planning to get to level 500 this year? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I'm looking at the shitstorm from far away, i'd rather wait to see the patch and complain after.

So planning to get to level 500 this year? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I'm looking at the shitstorm from far away, i'd rather wait to see the patch and complain after.

Heh, if anything, I should know what I'm talking about. EXP needed to level is insane where I'm at. All the exp modifiers help, but don't make it easy.

And no, probably not 500 this year. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

It appears that there is a gear problem on HV.

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Before 10bro fully commits to this, can anyone think of an alternate solution to the current equipment 'problem'?

I think 10bro has already fully committed to this. I still think the easiest solution to get people to equip what they get is to have the drop rolls bias towards their current gear. Is that too grind-for-profit, though?

IMO, the only way to make players always getting upgrade is to cap the dropped item quality to player's level. And limit the use of high quality equipment by level as well .

That really isn't the only way to make players always get upgrades.

So planning to get to level 500 this year? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I'm looking at the shitstorm from far away, i'd rather wait to see the patch and complain after.

Awww come on. all board the pre-rage train!

I'm reading a lot of people vehemently against any equipment changes. So, this is my opinion on the general idea of changing equipment.

Do you want to continue on and try for that super rare good drop? Meanwhile using sub-par equipment and sinking all of your credits into forging or minimal upgrades.

Or, do we want to try a change which might make it actually fun and less of a chore to squeeze every stat point from gear?

Personally, I don't care if all of my current gear becomes 'useless' as long as its possible for me to start with the new system and get some great stuff.

Personally, I don't care if all of my current gear becomes 'useless' as long as its possible for me to start with the new system and get some great stuff.

^this. but my gear is all mag anyway (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

At time like this why change anything. In the end you will just replace your weapon of slaughter for the next best weapon of slaughter.
We need more gear choices. Why not allow stuff like dex builds which will come with silly high Critical hits?
Have Agi builds break the maximum rounds per second limits.

We need shit like this then it makes sense to have the new system. Have some awesome drop --> you may create a new build around this.

According to the IRC talk, looks like you can change your equipment into your level with some cost.

this is absurd at so many levels.

1. If I account-lock my gear, now I can't sell it to buy new & BETTER gear that is dropping everywhere?
2. There will be no barrier for entry for those people desperately trying to get into a warrior-class (i.e. holy mage) whereas others (e.g. me) fought tooth and nail to get gear pre-0.82.
3. 0.82 is going to force me to play a lot more, to continuously get new gear, or waste more credits bidding against others to replace now useless gear.
4. 0.82 is going to force me to IW everything again and forge everything again. Where all my mage sets , holy, dark, and freyr are already 99% forged and properly IW'd.

I guess this is all my fault for whining/bitching/complaining about getting better gear, and it's come to bite me in the ass. Should I should start selling everything I have then?

Can we have a 'refine' function in the forge?

As if we have quite a lot waste gear due to the mechanism,
I would suggest that we could refine equipment of same type for better states and re-level the gear to the current one.


EXP:

Gear A:
Legendary Ethereal Axe of Slaughter(level 310)
WD: 63.14
STR: 5.72
DEX: 3.92
AGI:1.34

Gear B:
Legendary Etheral Axe of Slaughter(Lever 332)
WD:65.75
STR: 3.79
DEX: 2
AGI:3.32

Player's level: 350

Refine:
Legendary Etheral Axe of Slaughter(Level 350 Account Bound )
WD:65.75
STR: 5.72
DEX: 3.92
AGI:3.32


If refine four element prefix gives etheral prefix would be better. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The cost or material required can be discussed.

This post has been edited by Zack_CN: Jan 13 2015, 01:11