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.az? .nz? .ru? maybe even .io?

Simply changing the TLD doesn't do much.

And there would still be the problem that most images are served through H@H. Those clients are spread all around the globe.
Guess irodori would take their claims to them. As for me, not sure how long it would take for my host to cancel my stuff.

This post has been edited by Dnkz: May 25 2020, 03:10

Simply changing the TLD doesn't do much.

And there would still be the problem that most images are served through H@H. Those clients are spread all around the globe.
Guess irodori would take their claims to them. As for me, not sure how long it would take for my host to cancel my stuff.

Alright, then making a secondary domain for taken down content is also not very viable if idori is so well versed in tracking down even the clients.

Then how about making deleted galleries not searchable, but still aviable to people having favourited them on x? Seen it working with some galleries before.

This post has been edited by PeasantXY: May 25 2020, 03:22

Then how about making deleted galleries not searchable, but still aviable to people having favourited them on x? Seen it working with some galleries before.

Without safety measures that would be kinda stupid. It's to be expected that irodori crawls the site. So that would just be Tenb putting his head on the line

And I don't know what galleries you're referring to

What you probably mean are galleries that were deleted after an expunge. Since those are marked with 'Visible: No (Deleted)'. Admin removing a gallery makes it inaccessible in general while 'visible' stays at 'yes' (when you request metadata from the api).

This post has been edited by Dnkz: May 25 2020, 03:45

Without safety measures that would be kinda stupid. It's to be expected that irodori crawls the site. So that would just be Tenb putting his head on the line

And I don't know what galleries you're referring to

Alright, what kind of safety measures would be good?

I am referring to all galleries of free tslers/ts groups that have been nuked/dcmed by Genesis Translations, Phoenix Syndicate, Shikimaya, Enshodo and (currently) Irodori (and whatever they will rebrand themselves as after their dozend shady company closing and opening).

The list due to the reccent takedowns is so long, but to just make an example with [Alice no Takarabako (Mizuryu Kei)]:
All MC Gakuen are gone
All Mizuryu Kei Land land are gone, expect if they included shota
All Teisou Kannen Zero no Onna are gone
All reccent translations like Futanari Shufu no Onaho are gone

Now, if the status quo for galleries on the matter is "they are within their right, no matter how moral questionable it is" or "we do not plan to try to find solutions on it and the take downs are fine", then I will not persue this topic further. Would make me not use any sort of doujini distributer, and return to fap to regular hentai as anything could be nuked at any point in time, but oh well.

Just would be very dangerous in my personal opinion as the people tsing are directly loacated in its community and it discourages tslers from even picking up an arists (because why translate something that can be taken down at any point?).

Also dangerous for the site at one point.

This post has been edited by PeasantXY: May 25 2020, 03:55

Alright, what kind of safety measures would be good?

Maybe go the MD route, put everything behind some bulgarian CDN and hope they don't hand you over sooner or later.
Or just keep things running as is and think of those DMCA claims as a 'minor' drawback of legally operating EH (in terms of copyright law).
It's a difficult topic

This post has been edited by Dnkz: May 25 2020, 04:06

Maybe go the MD route, put everything behind some bulgarian CDN and hope they don't hand you over sooner or later.
Or just keep things running as is and think of those DMCA claims as a 'minor' drawback of legally operating EH (in terms of copyright law).
It's a difficult topic

e-hentai is a site hosting intellectual property of japanese artists, game galleries etc. I call that "pirating" (in my point of view a good thing, as it actually does give japanese creators major exposure in the west, which most do not care about).

But it is no longer a "minor" drawback. Fakku aquiring the rights to mulitple big ero magazines and no longer being even able to freely ts works from them was a "minor" draw back (was a big one in my opinion but some like to disagree).

A shady company run by a shady person (OnTakahashi ) and seeks out explicitly english fan ts (aswell as raws now), leading to 1000+ galleries to be nuked that had been up for years is no longer a minor drawback.

If more such "companies" decicde to run a similar buisness model, e-hentai will not have much content to host anymore, if the status quo is "lets just go with it".

And I know it is a difficult topic, as exactly something like this has happened in the past when they still were Enshodo, only on a much smaller scale, and my thread got shut down as discussion about the topic was not wanted.

In my opinion something has to be done

This post has been edited by PeasantXY: May 25 2020, 04:23

e-hentai is a site hosting intellectual property of japanese artists, game galleries etc. I call that "pirating"

EH is currently protected under DMCA. The site is legal to operate in terms of copyright. Doesn't really matter what you call it

And don't get me wrong. Takedowns annoy me at least as much as they annoy you

This post has been edited by Dnkz: May 25 2020, 04:55

EH is currently protected under DMCA. The site is legal to operate in terms of copyright. Doesn't really matter what you call it

And don't get me wrong. Takedowns annoy me at least as much as they annoy you

Fair. Doesnt change my overall point and how shakey copyright law is in general, but alright.

More than annoying me, they frustrate me to no end because it actively lead to free tslers not being interested in translating anymore before etc.

But I said everything I had to say. Hope finding a solution will be considered.

This post has been edited by PeasantXY: May 25 2020, 12:55

While all good ideas, moving to another country is not an option. The only way to be out of reach of takedowns is the darknet but that would also mean EH is some kind of gangster lair smuggling weapons, drugs, snuff movies and pizzagate material, which is all nuked from orbit the instant it shows up in order to protect everyone to my knowledge.

The current solution is a mass boycott of any company filing takedowns which is not easy. Not as a threat but as a protest, and to defend the artist. If all money goes to the artist, I don't give a rat's ass about people losing their jobs working for <insert your personal incarnation of the Nemesis here>.

Artists are a different matter if they play by the rules - they deserve the income/brains and they have to make a living (or a dying if they are zombies). Also, it's extremely rare for a non-Western artist to file, even on a website using their native language. The EH community also managed to convince a few takedown filing individuals to reconsider after telling them no more free ads for you.

(As previously said, EH also plays by the rules but that does not mean it encourages takedowns. Much the opposite. Anyone who's not a complete idiot already knows whatever they filed for drove piracy for that specific thing up at least 8000%.)

tl;dr: Boycott big companies, support the artist directly (tip: paywalls take a fee, banks usually take one too from both sides), encourage them to stay here and properly advertise their works, teach them how to get uncensored works past the Censorship Inquisition radar without having to rely on money-laundering shitpiles.

If you are concerned about VAT, unless your country and/or legal jurisdiction applies VAT to physical or digital donations, that is not applicable.
Also, [cashless.go.jp] METI's Cashless initiative has been helping Japan (and people using Japanese payment methods) cope with the VAT increase as well as promoting digital payments since October 2019 and until June 2020.

I also agree that we live in a money-driven society where the rich try and buy mindsets (being greedy is fun, money is fun, you only need money) to the extent motivation and creativity don't mean anything anymore. If you don't allow it to happen, it won't. Never too late to fight for what you stand for.

This post has been edited by Luna_Flina: May 25 2020, 14:06

Dodging DMCA isn't really an issue, since lots of folks in the warez scene and such have been doing that. The issue is that they know Ten's identity, so it won't matter where the host of the alleged contents are put on. They will only need to directly go after him in a legal manner. No domain or datacenter change can make Ten safe from lawsuits.

We have always respected legally valid takedown notices, and this is not about to change. I would suggest that you make your own site, with blackjack, and hookers, and no copyright takedown compliance.

Its also a problem that no good alternatives exist in terms of other doujin(ero manga sites that arent just archives of eh. Also eh is not the first platform facing dmcas, but proberly one of the few operating "legally", and the siteowner being known so they could persue him personally.

I doubt mass boycot will work, as the majority of the audience is uninformed and Idori has been at it for years now. But it is at least something.

And yes, the Artist themselves deserve to be paid (even if the majority cares little for income from overseas). Heck, for all artists aviable I support buying their works directly if you have the income to do so. Third parties known to have notoriously bad deals with artists and seeking out existing fan ts just to make sure their product is the only aviable option on the market sadly has the opposite effect. For example, I personally stop following or being interested in any artist who has the missfortune to get partnered with such a third party.
(And yes, it just encourages piracy, but seemingly not to the point of them reconsidering)

Frustration since 2013.

We have always respected legally valid takedown notices, and this is not about to change. I would suggest that you make your own site, with blackjack, and hookers, and no copyright takedown compliance.

Alright, I will get onto that.