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OK, but I just now noticed one crucial note there. Tenboro says base proficiencies, aka, before bonuses from say mage staffs come into play. Will users remember to subtract those bonuses?

What you see on the main Character page are base Proficiencies. I know this as I have +84.70 Elem prof bonus from Staff and clothes. (Although, HV says +90.37 on the equipment page) On the front page it says 93.77. When I switch to Full Plate + Katana with no Elem bonus, the Equip page says -38.09 "bonus", but the Front Page still says 93.77 Elem Prof. On a side note, mage Interference is 12.7 and Plate is 79.2.

Are you writing the changes in word or something? Your fancy double quotes don't show up well in ascii text. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I see them fine. Of course, I do have Office installed, with its fonts.

He did not. Apparently you need 25:1 to get 2nd class sainthood. (I asked him earlier about that)

Ouch! You're going to need as much +K as I have, just to get to S2C.

Ouch! You're going to need as much +K as I have, just to get to S2C.

Since Tenboro crushed my dream of negging someone for 1,000 red karma, I don't really care. Of course, Tenboro made it worse by double negging me for 1,800 red yesterday.

What you see on the main Character page are base Proficiencies. I know this as I have +84.70 Elem prof bonus from Staff and clothes. (Although, HV says +90.37 on the equipment page) On the front page it says 93.77.

It says +90.37 because equipment proficiency bonuses are boosted by equipment proficiency.

I see them fine. Of course, I do have Office installed, with its fonts.

I don't have issues seeing them so much as quoting them. I use the plain old text editor for my posts, not the fancy one. As such when i quote Boggyb's post, the double quotes turn into boxes.

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    Const RATIOKT8 As Double = 2.0
    Const RATIOKT9 As Double = 3.0
    Const RATIOKT10 As Double = 4.0
    Const RATIOKT11 As Double = 5.0
    Const RATIOKT12 As Double = 6.0
    Const RATIOKT13 As Double = 7.0
    Const RATIOKT14 As Double = 8.0
    Const RATIOKT15 As Double = 9.0
    Const RATIOKT16 As Double = 10.0
    Const RATIOKT17 As Double = 11.0
    Const RATIOKT18 As Double = 12.0
    Const RATIOKT19 As Double = 13.0
    Const RATIOKT20 As Double = 14.0
    Const RATIOKT21 As Double = 15.0
    Const RATIOKT22 As Double = 16.0
    Const RATIOKT23 As Double = 17.0
    Const RATIOKT24 As Double = 18.0
    Const RATIOKT25 As Double = 19.0
    Const RATIOKT26 As Double = 20.0
    Const RATIOKT27 As Double = 21.0

Level 19 is Saint 2nd class, which should be a 25 now. So any ideas how this distributes?

This post has been edited by Sonic: Feb 10 2010, 03:38

I don't have issues seeing them so much as quoting them. I use the plain old text editor for my posts, not the fancy one. As such when i quote Boggyb's post, the double quotes turn into boxes.

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    Const RATIOKT8 As Double = 2.0
    Const RATIOKT9 As Double = 3.0
    Const RATIOKT10 As Double = 4.0
    Const RATIOKT11 As Double = 5.0
    Const RATIOKT12 As Double = 6.0
    Const RATIOKT13 As Double = 7.0
    Const RATIOKT14 As Double = 8.0
    Const RATIOKT15 As Double = 9.0
    Const RATIOKT16 As Double = 10.0
    Const RATIOKT17 As Double = 11.0
    Const RATIOKT18 As Double = 12.0
    Const RATIOKT19 As Double = 13.0
    Const RATIOKT20 As Double = 14.0
    Const RATIOKT21 As Double = 15.0
    Const RATIOKT22 As Double = 16.0
    Const RATIOKT23 As Double = 17.0
    Const RATIOKT24 As Double = 18.0
    Const RATIOKT25 As Double = 19.0
    Const RATIOKT26 As Double = 20.0
    Const RATIOKT27 As Double = 21.0

Level 19 is Saint 2nd class, which should be a 25 now. So any ideas how this distributes?

You just want me to ask Tenboro?

I thought he wouldn't tell you. I have come up with a theme however of what the new values might be...

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    Const RATIOKT15 As Double = 9.0
    Const RATIOKT16 As Double = 10.0
    Const RATIOKT17 As Double = 15.0
    Const RATIOKT18 As Double = 20.0
    Const RATIOKT19 As Double = 25.0
    Const RATIOKT20 As Double = 30.0
    Const RATIOKT21 As Double = 35.0
    Const RATIOKT22 As Double = 40.0
    Const RATIOKT23 As Double = 45.0
    Const RATIOKT24 As Double = 50.0
    Const RATIOKT25 As Double = 55.0
    Const RATIOKT26 As Double = 60.0
    Const RATIOKT27 As Double = 75.0

I thought he wouldn't tell you.

He didn't volunteer the information though he did when I asked him the ratio for 2nd class. I just PM'ed him asking for the ratio for 1st and 3rd class, so, assuming the progression is linear, we will be able to figure it out.

It says +90.37 because equipment proficiency bonuses are boosted by equipment proficiency.

Ahh, so whack-a-mole training was useful for something other than a better finishing hit with my Staff. Cool. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I don't have issues seeing them so much as quoting them. I use the plain old text editor for my posts, not the fancy one. As such when i quote Boggyb's post, the double quotes turn into boxes.

I can see them in Notepad, too. Switch your text editor's default font to a Unicode one. I am using Lucida Console at the moment.

I can see them in Notepad, too. Switch your text editor's default font to a Unicode one. I am using Lucida Console at the moment.

No no, Its the text editor in the browser. Of course I see them if I was copying and pasting in Notepad.

You never set it so the atonement calculator saves the desired K- level.

Why would that be necessary; that is one of the more temporary sections of the calculator. You likely have a different desired level every time you go there.

Because when your desired goal is to get your P:N ratio to a certain number, your desired karma level stays approximately the same. But, whatever, keep it how it is if you feel like it.

Note, getting my ratio to 20:1 jumped me (back) up to 3rd class. So, it is 20:1 for 3rd, and 25:1 for 2nd.

I love the new version, Sonic. I had no idea you were adding so many more features than the beta versions you gave me to test a few weeks ago.

I'm very curious about one thing though: How'd you get the formulas for Innate Arcana upkeep? Did Tenboro finally spill the beans? If so, can you provide the formulas so we can put them up in the wiki?

I've mentioned it before, but the tooltips need to be fixed in the Hath tool.

The rate part under the H@H Server 1, 2, 3 should be the same as the Rate under the Hath column.
Change the Hours tooltip to be what the rate tooltip is now.

If that doesn't make sense, just look at and you'll see it is screwy.

I love the new version, Sonic. I had no idea you were adding so many more features than the beta versions you gave me to test a few weeks ago.

I'm very curious about one thing though: How'd you get the formulas for Innate Arcana upkeep? Did Tenboro finally spill the beans? If so, can you provide the formulas so we can put them up in the wiki?

The Upkeep reduction is just obvious from the perk descriptions. If you are referring to the calculating of cost for how much shield/barrier/etc cost to cast and for how long, part of that was gathered from the EH Wiki while I got the proficiency turn bonus from Tenboro via PM.

Ever thought about adding something that calculates the amount of HP regen and regen 2 heal per turn? Mainly so we can see the effects of increasing curative proficiency.

Not really...unless you are volunteering to get the formula.

The Upkeep reduction is just obvious from the perk descriptions. If you are referring to the calculating of cost for how much shield/barrier/etc cost to cast and for how long, part of that was gathered from the EH Wiki while I got the proficiency turn bonus from Tenboro via PM.

The "proficiency turn bonus" formula is what I'm interested in. The proficiency -> duration formula is the main missing piece of information about spells that is generally unknown.

Well that's why I allow the source code to be downloaded and all. I think Shield and Barrier were /100 proficiency although their bases were different. Yes, that means if you have a 100 proficiency, you double the duration.

Oh and, update released! (I shoot Boggyb if he complains about tooltips or other text related issues within the next 12 hours)

Not really...unless you are volunteering to get the formula.

I normally would, but I think Tenboro is bored with getting PMs from me (though he did double neg me the other day, so maybe he is just playing coy)