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post Mar 18 2020, 14:48
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Mar 18 2020, 12:18) *

Double this, tax should at least be included in total


I set some items the same price with my shop, and it's 5% discount at my shop while buyers get 5% taxed in market.
hum... 'cheaper at origin' sounds reasonable. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Mar 18 2020, 16:23
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Request: option to recall some amount not all
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post Mar 18 2020, 16:51
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Mar 18 2020, 14:23) *

Request: option to recall some amount not all


Will be implemented
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post Mar 18 2020, 20:20
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QUOTE(lestion @ Mar 18 2020, 17:51) *

Will be implemented

cool, thanks!

btw first sell achieved, everything works!
Great job, lestion!
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post Mar 19 2020, 14:41
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 18 2020, 08:09) *

Can I suggest that you display the actual price that we have to pay to get the item? Now it shows the value that the seller gets, not the value that the buyer gets.

i'd say to include both. something like:
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Item1: 100k (105k to buyer)
Item2: 80k (84k to buyer)
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post Mar 19 2020, 16:19
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 19 2020, 14:41) *

i'd say to include both. something like:
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Item1: 100k (105k to buyer)
Item2: 80k (84k to buyer)



Or just use the same code he already use for creating his MM.

When you buy, you receive something like this in it :

50 x Infusion of Darkness @ 170 = 8500
5% Tax: 425
Total: 8925

So he could just have it like this :

Item1: 100k + 5% tax (5k) = total 105k

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post Mar 19 2020, 22:08
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request: show price from last transaction in Your Listings / Unit Price / next to input
i've better request. don't erase the item and its set price from Your Listings if someone buy full stock

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post Mar 20 2020, 00:22
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From the screens, it looks really neat. Is there a discussion on the project in some other thread where you mention how long it took you to complete it?
 >Please put requests for features here.
Two feature requests:
1. Please add an option of automatically changing HVMarket account's password by PMing to HVMarket's forum account a specific command. This will allow accessing the HVmarket website through free proxy services with a "burner" password and then swiftly changing said password through an official channel (the forum), once the proxy connection has done its job and been closed.
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 >Regarding resellers: if someone tries to buy things and artificially raise prices of any item, they will be banned from HVMarket.
Please expand this paragraph a bit to include the Market's position on slightly different cases: when there's just a demand at a higher price than the HVMarket's current supply offers (thus there is no need for the reseller to actively hoard to raise prices, but they can still benefit by buying and instantly reselling). I am not trying to argue in favour of either direction, just for an unabmigiuous statement to be included.

Also, thanks for the implementation.

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post Mar 20 2020, 06:15
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Mar 19 2020, 20:08) *

request: show price from last transaction in Your Listings / Unit Price / next to input
i've better request. don't erase the item and its set price from Your Listings if someone buy full stock


Something like this will probably happen in future

QUOTE(Elevens @ Mar 19 2020, 22:22) *

From the screens, it looks really neat. Is there a discussion on the project in some other thread where you mention how long it took you to complete it?
 >Please put requests for features here.
Two feature requests:
1. Please add an option of automatically changing HVMarket account's password by PMing to HVMarket's forum account a specific command. This will allow accessing the HVmarket website through free proxy services with a "burner" password and then swiftly changing said password through an official channel (the forum), once the proxy connection has done its job and been closed.
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 >Regarding resellers: if someone tries to buy things and artificially raise prices of any item, they will be banned from HVMarket.
Please expand this paragraph a bit to include the Market's position on slightly different cases: when there's just a demand at a higher price than the HVMarket's current supply offers (thus there is no need for the reseller to actively hoard to raise prices, but they can still benefit by buying and instantly reselling). I am not trying to argue in favour of either direction, just for an unabmigiuous statement to be included.

Also, thanks for the implementation.


1) No, this will not be done. The only part of HVMarket which is truly automated is checking the credits log (for paid CoDs - essential to its behaviour). I do not want to expand the scope for automation beyond this, because it risks triggering various bot checks & protections that may compromise its ability to perform normally (think hitting rate limits, etc).

2) Part of the reason it may be ambiguous is because I wanted to post the market rules in as simple English as possible, since we're serving a lot of language communities, many of which do not auto-translate from English very well. What it specifically refers to is someone trying to buy out everything and resell at a much higher price. (This is not sustainable long-term and most likely not profitable at all, in a game with unrestricted supply available to all, but HV wealth inequality is severe enough that there are many players who could inconvenience other players for significant time periods doing this.)

I will consider if I can rephrase it when I next edit the thread.
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post Mar 21 2020, 02:36
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While a minor detail, I would suggest to add even more hyperlinks: when searching by item, seller name could be a hyperlink to search by seller (like hyperlinks in browse sellers page) and, more importantly, when searching by seller for items to be hyperlinked to search by item (like hyperlinks in browse items page). Likewise, same item hyperlinks could be great on "your listings" page, and both seller and item hyperlinks in "your transactions" pages, or, hell, "recent sales" too, if anyone uses that. Just something to make navigation faster, and i honestly don't think this would be too hard to implement (why not have all item names link to that item page and seller/buyer name to their search by seller page, shouldn't be a problem that some page links would just link to the same page you are already on).
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post Mar 21 2020, 08:05
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QUOTE(quitetanky @ Mar 21 2020, 00:36) *

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Yes, this should be fine (and has also been requested by the testers, for the next round of updates).
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post Mar 21 2020, 08:26
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Mar 19 2020, 15:19) *

Or just use the same code he already use for creating his MM.

When you buy, you receive something like this in it :

50 x Infusion of Darkness @ 170 = 8500
5% Tax: 425
Total: 8925

So he could just have it like this :

Item1: 100k + 5% tax (5k) = total 105k

yes, great idea! But I would also want to see this before I click 'buy', not only in the moogle mail. That's too late for me. That doesn't solve the real problem: that I click a flower vase at 12.5k but in fact it's more expensive than in other shops.


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post Mar 21 2020, 10:15
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After I recalled some of my items, it still showed on the list. Is this a bug? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
I temporarily set the price to be 0, so it will not appear on the list.
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post Mar 21 2020, 10:45
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QUOTE(FreeloaderV @ Mar 21 2020, 08:15) *

After I recalled some of my items, it still showed on the list. Is this a bug? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
I temporarily set the price to be 0, so it will not appear on the list.


I found an error with the recall function earlier & deployed a fix for it earlier this morning, and then there was a spelling error in that fix which I noticed about an hour later. I think it is working correctly now; if you still have the same problem, please let me know.
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post Mar 21 2020, 12:22
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QUOTE(lestion @ Mar 21 2020, 09:45) *

I found an error with the recall function earlier & deployed a fix for it earlier this morning, and then there was a spelling error in that fix which I noticed about an hour later. I think it is working correctly now; if you still have the same problem, please let me know.


It seems that the system still keeps the number of my recalled items, so it resent the item. I keep it in the mail that you can take them back.
I still have Binding of the Ox on the list that I have already recalled.
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post Mar 21 2020, 13:00
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QUOTE(FreeloaderV @ Mar 21 2020, 10:22) *

It seems that the system still keeps the number of my recalled items, so it resent the item. I keep it in the mail that you can take them back.
I still have Binding of the Ox on the list that I have already recalled.


Oh dear - this is exactly the bug I tried to fix.

I'll continue investigating, and monitoring the mails to make sure nobody is receiving a double recall for now.

I have removed the Binding of the Ox listing manually.
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post Mar 22 2020, 02:19
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nvm got it now.

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post Mar 23 2020, 16:57
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Can you make a view cart page instead of just the update button?

It can even include the tax needed to be paid there.
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post Mar 23 2020, 17:16
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QUOTE(RibbonsCan @ Mar 23 2020, 14:57) *

Can you make a view cart page instead of just the update button?

It can even include the tax needed to be paid there.


There will probably be multi-purchasing soon but I do not think a shopping cart is the way it will be implemented...

(Also, the update button might not do what you think it does - all it does is forces the site to check HVMarket's mooglemail inbox.)
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post Mar 23 2020, 18:19
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QUOTE(lestion @ Mar 23 2020, 16:16) *

There will probably be multi-purchasing soon but I do not think a shopping cart is the way it will be implemented...

(Also, the update button might not do what you think it does - all it does is forces the site to check HVMarket's mooglemail inbox.)

I would still like the tax-included view
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