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Aug 27 2020, 10:02
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ArQcane
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What is the highest amount of hath u can get from H@H
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Aug 28 2020, 00:13
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uareader
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QUOTE(ArQcane @ Aug 27 2020, 10:02)  What is the highest amount of hath u can get from H@H On a single client, or when adding multiples clients on multiples machines? And you're talking about rate 'haths/min' right?
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Aug 28 2020, 13:56
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Mocka
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QUOTE(ArQcane @ Aug 27 2020, 10:02)  What is the highest amount of hath u can get from H@H
I'm getting around 74 per day with 6000 static ranges on single client with max quality and trust. I'm in Europe and Africa region though so you might get more or less depending on region. This post has been edited by Mocka: Aug 28 2020, 14:07
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Aug 28 2020, 16:51
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kamio11
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QUOTE(ArQcane @ Aug 27 2020, 08:02)  What is the highest amount of hath u can get from H@H
As far as I know, there is no upper limit. The wiki has a formula for hath/day.
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Sep 7 2020, 13:32
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uareader
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I feel like my static ranges have been stuck at 3020 for a while now. I wonder if I reached the point where my cache cover all galleries in favorites of frequent users that mainly visit their favorites (always the same files), or something like that, thus the increase speed has lowered.
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Sep 9 2020, 01:03
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Nezu
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QUOTE(uareader @ Sep 7 2020, 12:32)  I feel like my static ranges have been stuck at 3020 for a while now. I wonder if I reached the point where my cache cover all galleries in favorites of frequent users that mainly visit their favorites (always the same files), or something like that, thus the increase speed has lowered.
What's your speed limit?
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Sep 9 2020, 06:39
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uareader
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QUOTE(lestion @ Sep 9 2020, 01:03)  What's your speed limit? 20 MB/s, but I really was wondering about the existence of such a slowdown (and possibly its usual circumstances), not requiring help for a technical difficulty, in case I would have been misunderstood (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Sep 9 2020, 16:46
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KitsuneAbby
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My own ranges are stuck at 865 in the US since a while, despite my host being perfectly able to handle up to 8000 or so. I've noticed that the range building is either chaotic, or outright bugged since a while.
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Sep 9 2020, 22:42
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Nezu
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 9 2020, 15:46)  My own ranges are stuck at 865 in the US since a while, despite my host being perfectly able to handle up to 8000 or so. I've noticed that the range building is either chaotic, or outright bugged since a while.
Perhaps it's related to the file system changes, prematurely estimating that your cache is full? Or did it exist before that upgrade?
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Sep 10 2020, 08:34
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Tenboro

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There is a limit on how many times a range can be assigned to live clients in a region. If that limit is reached for all ranges, it won't assign any more until some clients go away.
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Sep 10 2020, 09:52
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 10 2020, 06:34)  There is a limit on how many times a range can be assigned to live clients in a region. If that limit is reached for all ranges, it won't assign any more until some clients go away.
Off to the wiki that goes. Thanks for the info. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Sep 10 2020, 10:39
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uareader
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 10 2020, 08:34)  There is a limit on how many times a range can be assigned to live clients in a region. If that limit is reached for all ranges, it won't assign any more until some clients go away. Ok, so the explanation is a different phenomenon than what I thought about. Thanks.
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Sep 21 2020, 22:09
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赛高hentai王
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I want to ask is increasing speed of Hitrate and Files Served related to the region where the client deploy?I deployed the vps in japan before,I can get a lots of hitrate and files quickly, but the quality is not stable, so I switch it to Europe, i could saw the quality and network speed are fine, but the incrase of hitrate and files served is almost stuck.
This post has been edited by 赛高hentai王: Sep 21 2020, 22:13
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Sep 21 2020, 23:17
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Nezu
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QUOTE(赛高hentai王 @ Sep 21 2020, 21:09)  I want to ask is increasing speed of Hitrate and Files Served related to the region where the client deploy?I deployed the vps in japan before,I can get a lots of hitrate and files quickly, but the quality is not stable, so I switch it to Europe, i could saw the quality and network speed are fine, but the incrase of hitrate and files served is almost stuck.
Yes, different regions have different supply and demand. Europe is really highly saturated with high-quality clients due to much cheaper availability of VPS solutions (and network stability, I guess). Asian clients get much, much higher performance and rewards (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Sep 21 2020, 23:35
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赛高hentai王
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QUOTE(lestion @ Sep 22 2020, 05:17)  Yes, different regions have different supply and demand. Europe is really highly saturated with high-quality clients due to much cheaper availability of VPS solutions (and network stability, I guess). Asian clients get much, much higher performance and rewards (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Ok, Thanks, maybe I should choose a time to back to asian, when i get enough static ranges, despite i always see low transport speed in log when i deployed it in japan.
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Sep 24 2020, 01:47
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qawsde.qawsde
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good information thanks for sharing
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Sep 25 2020, 11:03
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 10 2020, 06:34)  There is a limit on how many times a range can be assigned to live clients in a region. If that limit is reached for all ranges, it won't assign any more until some clients go away.
Alright. Now I'm done with that bullcrap. There is a limit to what I can accept in terms of pure waste, as well as a limit to my patience. I don't appreciate paying for a host for months and months and months, full price, for it to be largely underperforming because it hasn't been building its cache for months and months. On the one hand we have westerners who struggle to stay afloat to generate any GP+hath by sinking large amounts in expensive dedicated servers. Thse servers seem to be harshly restricted by the H@H network. And on the other hand we have asians who throw a laptop under the bed and drown under the said GP+hath. They also monopolize the H@H tops along with the awards that come with them. I won't blame them for that, since it's not their fault if things work that way. But if I compare, there is clearly unfairness going on. You probably don't care about that Tenboro (even less about my own personal case, I'm fine with that), but that kind of issues has been bothering quite a lot of people for a while now. And by "for a while", I mean for years. And that's only one of the major problems lying around for way too long around E-H and HV. For now, I'm shutting down that host in the US that hasn't been doing shit for over 6 months. Cheers.
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Sep 25 2020, 11:53
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Tenboro

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Not sure what you expect? The bandwidth usage stats and estimated rewards are shown clearly on the H@H page. The system doesn't actively penalize you for putting your clients in a saturated region, there just won't be much traffic for it. I guess you could ask all the Asians to use US VPNs or move there, but as it is, the Asia region has the least clients per traffic usage, so they will obviously perform better.
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Sep 25 2020, 14:28
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KitsuneAbby
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As I was saying, I don't have any issue with asians having higher traffic, besides them having the advantage when it comes to tops. I have issues with US servers not doing anything, despite those stats: (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/JGlLQIU.png) Smallest coverage, half more hits/GB than Europe, yet the US ranges are already "saturated"? 6 months to be assigned only 865 ranges (so only 173GB, considering the 200MB/range), while a EU host would already be near full (5000, for 1TB worth) within the same span? At least that's what it took for my EU hosts to fill. With the stats alone, one would expect US servers to perform way better than EU ones. Which is the very reason why I opened one there in the first place. If US is already saturated, then how come Europe and Asia have an even higher coverage? They should have saturated way, way before. Understand to it that it's really not pleasant to have not even 10% of the disk space being used in a host that has a 2TB capacity after all that time, when you've specifically chosen such a capacity because the size of ranges has been raised from 175MB to 200MB . Because as you've stated yourself, hosts are expected to have ever large capacity. I remember you saying that the size of the ranges has been increased exactly for that reason, which I approve. But then it's legitimate to expect results out of that. I ain't the one who manages everything, obviously, that's your stuff. But to my own perspective, with everything that is provided for me to know, things don't assemble correctly and "something" is very, very wrong. Either the pruning of older content inside allocated ranges isn't doing its job well enough, or some people are using an exploit to bypass the range limitations, or there are some other mechanics (which have yet to be brought to our attention) that mess everything up. I am not blaming you, but as user who is willing to contribute and who pays a not negligible monthly fee for his servers, I'd like my expense to be justified. All I'm expecting is things to work as one can reasonably expect, not to throw my money in the burnable trash. Just like everyone else, basically. My expense for my EU servers is justified and things have always behaved properly. When it comes to the US, I've faced issue after issue after issue, and the one at fault has never been the host nor I. All this for a host that has a miserable hitrate and hathrate, even though the hitrate is better than the EU, hits/GB-wise. I hope that you understand my position. Which is the same of many other users whom I've talked with, but they haven't written about it on forums because they're either not regulars, or they are just as lost as I used to be. Cheers.
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Sep 25 2020, 16:52
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Tenboro

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If it says Miss% of 0.00 it's probably effectively saturated. Most likely the reason the coverage for America is lower is that almost all clients are located in US, unlike the Asia and Europe regions where they are spread across more countries.
FWIW there are no "exploits" or "bugs" here, it is working as intended. Adding more ranges to more clients when a region is saturated doesn't actually do anything except reduce the cache hit rate, which increases the load on the image servers.
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