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This post has been edited by Maximum_Joe: Dec 6 2019, 16:38

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It looks like it broke the news page version though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
All texts turned bold, and the news post start with "then start H@H with --port=7777"

edit: It's better now, good work (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by uareader: Dec 6 2019, 17:09

thank you!

wondering whether it's possible to reverse-proxy hath with web engine like nginx/apache/caddy?

Let's face the reality: we encounter a big issue, which won't be fixed by small efforts.
H@H is a CDN. All we need is a CDN. Cloudflare is a damn good CDN.
Right? No!
We need a CDN with an ecosystem! Trust, qualty, Hath coin, they are parts of the ecosystem. When talking about this kind of CDN, H@H is the best and unique on this planet.
I say we fxxk those global standard products and providers and rules.
I say we stick to http H@H and use non-browser applications instead.

I say we fxxk those global standard products and providers and rules.
I say we stick to http H@H and use non-browser applications instead.

This mentality will only alienate new users and the majority of existing users

Standards exist for a reason, yeah.

And something to consider - a product like Firefox or Chrome is freaking huge. Browsers do a load of stuff, and they do it pretty damn well all things considered. There's also large communities that support and maintain them, not only fixing bugs and security holes, but improving performance, adding features (plus extensions), etc.

We get that all for free. That's work that simply doesn't have to be done.

By leveraging the work of those people, of years/decades of development effort, a surprisingly small team can develop and maintain a surprisingly large site like this. If that went away - if this site (could you call it a site at that point?) had to do everything itself, then... Do you really think it would exist?

Has annoy experienced an:
Error 503 Backend fetch failed
Backend fetch failed

Guru Meditation:
XID: Varnish cache server

I am a little confused by it

This post has been edited by Brew785: Dec 15 2019, 02:38

Standards exist for a reason, yeah.

And something to consider - a product like Firefox or Chrome is freaking huge. Browsers do a load of stuff, and they do it pretty damn well all things considered. There's also large communities that support and maintain them, not only fixing bugs and security holes, but improving performance, adding features (plus extensions), etc.

We get that all for free. That's work that simply doesn't have to be done.

By leveraging the work of those people, of years/decades of development effort, a surprisingly small team can develop and maintain a surprisingly large site like this. If that went away - if this site (could you call it a site at that point?) had to do everything itself, then... Do you really think it would exist?

no need to praise those devel team too much, they just do their jobs.
and we do ours.
e-hentai site maintenance team might be small, but the whole user group is huge, which already breed a couple of projects, bringing up pretty good mobile applications that not only suite the site for now, but can also keep working even those main stream browsers start to block mixed content (as long as the old H@H system don't change).

so, changing the site to catch up speed with chrome/firefox is good, but not necessary.

This mentality will only alienate new users and the majority of existing users

ok, i'll be more constructive.
if we do standard https, then we MUST have standard domains and standard certs and standard 443 ports.
btw, for some users, 443 port might not be an option due the isp limitations.
anyway, setting up a hath client would be more complicated, and more restrictive.
however this kind of difficulties can still be overcome. there is still plenty users can get public ipaddr with 443 usable, and https web setup is learnable.

the real problem is, how to run the old ecosystem in a new way.
though we can take some fix to let trust, quality, hath reward, etc. to run just like before in this new https based H@H system, but it is just a waste.
since we got H@H running on normal https website, then those normal CDN providers could be used by us. say, i have a H@H client running, viewers get pictures from it through https url on port 443. then, i definitely can use a cloudflare free plan to proxy it, after this, it actually provides content to all locations on this planet, maybe faster than our network.
in this model, we'll have to drop the current client id and ip address to calculate the reward and the preferred country. instead, every H@H client should register its domain at e-hentai, and mark it as whether proxied by any kind of CDN or just direct servering content. its preferred serving region and reward factor would then be calculated.

changing the site to catch up speed with chrome/firefox is good, but not necessary.

It is 100% necessary. I'd wager less than 0.1% of our visitors would be willing to install an application for the sole purpose of accessing this site.

no need to praise those devel team too much, they just do their jobs.
and we do ours.

It's not praise, it's acknowledgement. Particularly at the moment with Chrome and push for Manifest V3. Somebody needs to be slapped for that. But that's besides the point.

They are doing their jobs, yes. And their job is to make a browser - a program to fetch and display complex content. That job is not Tenboro's job. Nor is it the job of every single user of this site (or even a fraction of them). If we rolled up our sleeves and "did it ourselves", even if we did get something usable, it would be slower, clunkier, and have less features than a browser.

...Part of writing modern software is acknowledging that you can't do it all yourself, and to be intelligent as to what you borrow/license compared to what you do by hand. Not just for sheer man-hours of effort, but also for usability and consistency reasons.

It is 100% necessary. I'd wager less than 0.1% of our visitors would be willing to install an application for the sole purpose of accessing this site.

To echo this... I'm not always the only person using my phone or computer. I don't want to have to field a "hey what's this app" question, especially when I could just use a normal browser in private mode instead. That's just me; I can only assume there are thousands of other users with thousands of other individual reasons out there.

Plus, there's a knee-jerk reaction to a site asking you to download a program to access its content. That just screams "virus". Especially when said content is something illegal or explicit. Would it be a virus? Nope. But see, you know that. I know that. Knowledgeable people on the forums and experienced site users would know that. But most people wouldn't. They would not download the extra program. They would use a different site instead, as it was easier.

It's not praise, it's acknowledgement. Particularly at the moment with Chrome and push for Manifest V3. Somebody needs to be slapped for that. But that's besides the point.

They are doing their jobs, yes. And their job is to make a browser - a program to fetch and display complex content. That job is not Tenboro's job. Nor is it the job of every single user of this site (or even a fraction of them). If we rolled up our sleeves and "did it ourselves", even if we did get something usable, it would be slower, clunkier, and have less features than a browser.

...Part of writing modern software is acknowledging that you can't do it all yourself, and to be intelligent as to what you borrow/license compared to what you do by hand. Not just for sheer man-hours of effort, but also for usability and consistency reasons.
To echo this... I'm not always the only person using my phone or computer. I don't want to have to field a "hey what's this app" question, especially when I could just use a normal browser in private mode instead. That's just me; I can only assume there are thousands of other users with thousands of other individual reasons out there.

Plus, there's a knee-jerk reaction to a site asking you to download a program to access its content. That just screams "virus". Especially when said content is something illegal or explicit. Would it be a virus? Nope. But see, you know that. I know that. Knowledgeable people on the forums and experienced site users would know that. But most people wouldn't. They would not download the extra program. They would use a different site instead, as it was easier.

you are just terrifying yourself.
and here is the PERFECT app:
[github.com] https://github.com/seven332/EhViewer

and here is the PERFECT app:

So perfect that it does absolutely nothing to alleviate the HTTPS issue.

you are just terrifying yourself.
and here is the PERFECT app:
[github.com] https://github.com/seven332/EhViewer

Never used it, so I don't know if it implements the features I want to use or not (or if it implements those it does as well as the existing site does). While I can give it the benefit of the doubt for some features, at the very least I know it's not going to suffice for downloading images or torrents, as I don't want images or torrents downloaded to my phone - I want them on my computer. And I don't want to have to plug my phone into my computer to copy things over manually. That's why I have a browser on my computer.

It's also been deprecated by the owner, so it may not even work for all I know.

...But that's all besides the point. It's an app. A stand-alone app that I would have to install separately. As mentioned, I will not be installing an app onto my phone (or computer) that has "hentai" in its title. That's a dealbreaker for me. And probably for others.

So perfect that it does absolutely nothing to alleviate the HTTPS issue.

you are right, it doesn't. because https issue will never be an issue to it.
why did you think that other application like chrome or firefox that blocking non-tls web content from H@H, will make this app not working - that's totally an client issue, not server side.

It's also been deprecated by the owner, so it may not even work for all I know.

sometimes things are just beyond what is looks like.
that damn app are working just like it should. its original author just wanted to transfer the maintenance work to others, and he finnaly got an excuse when e-hentai site encounter that "huge" crisis a couple of months ago.
github is a place that anyone could take place into contribution for any project. you can see from that project page that there are actually 21 contributors having ever do development or testing job in that project. the owner just need to do more management.
since its an open source project, anyone could fork this repo and continue developing, if needed. for now, there is no need, 'cause the e-hentai site hasn't changed anything that would make this app non functional.

Just so we're clear here, your proposed solution is to tell every single person in the world who wants to visit this site (which is a few million per day) to download an okHTTP-based client application to do so.

I can't tell if you're a saboteur or just plain stupid.

Just so we're clear here, your proposed solution is to tell every single person in the world who wants to visit this site (which is a few million per day) to download an okHTTP-based client application to do so.

I can't tell if you're a saboteur or just plain stupid.

i cant tell if you are blind or having dyslexia.
my "proposed solution" is back in #130.
since you keep taunting for no reason, i'll just give you my "fxxk yourself" finger, smeared with chili sauce, if you like.

like i said, chrome team plans to block all mixed content simply because google has a fat arrogant dxxk, forceing us to make change to current system which has NOT A SINGLE problem.
like i said, i could surrend, but it doesn't mean it is necessary.
like i said, plenty of applications could be used to view this site, to anyone's taste.
talking about applictions, ehviewer is an applicaiton, firefox is, chrome is, any web browser is an application, and of course, an old-version-updating-refused web browser is still an application.

i say again, this site could be visited by anyone through any way.
change is acceptable, but no necessary.
google could make its way to an no-http heaven, i don't give a shit, and my web browsing life won't be affected in any level.
i'm no superman, what i can do could be done by anyone.

i'm no superman, what i can do could be done by anyone.

What you, apparently, can do is waste people time in a pointless, unrealistic discussion while having no technical background and thus no real solution to the problem at hand.

Accept this fact and move on.