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The wiki says the following
Where does 27.5% come from?
-snap-

two weeks arena datas:
totally 82596 monsters, 24838 items drop, about 30% drop rate
but that's probably not the actually random drop rate, because of the SGs and clear bonus
except the special monsters and trophies:
70949 normal mosters, about 23.3K items drop, minus the clear bonus, should be little higher than 30%
edit: the datas includes some RE result and the last round bonus, and it's difficult to filter them out, so this data is meaningless

not really a serious research, but since I posted some wrong data so just correct them here: the two weeks datas includes some RE and last round bonus so the result is not reliable.
I check some other datas:

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45/50 Scavenger trainings
# | battle        | monsters | drops  | drop rate
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1 | 374 * TT&T    | 148852   | 41787  | 28.0%
2 | #1-last round | 147356   | 40213  | 27.3%
3 | 354 * IW      | 254849   | 68317  | 26.8%
4 | 1 * 1000GF    | 8316     | 6210   | 36.7%

the #2 & #3 shows maybe the expected maximum 27.5% random drop chance is correct, don't know how it come although. and maybe there's no difference between arena and IW ( and maybe also GF )

This is easy to test. Mobs in grindfest can drop an item and crystals:
Or they can drop crystals twice, or credits and crystals:
Or an equip and crystals:

and since kamio11 have confirm there is another independent crystals drop in GF, I guess the additional crystals drop chance in GF is fixed 10%. guess only, since I don't have enough datas to prove that

This post has been edited by what_is_name: Aug 10 2022, 10:00

The total number of unique monsters seen was 2790.
I fought a total of 167,268 monsters. ('Total appearances'.)
The average power level per appearance was 1821. (Total power level / appearances.)
The average power level per unique monster was 1612. (Total power level / unique monsters.)
178 different players have monsters high level enough to show in max-level PFests.
The number of appearances made by level 2250 monsters was 30,948. This is 18.5% of all appearances.

2 years have passed, and this is how the monsters have changed:

The total number of unique monsters seen was 2951.
I fought a total of 167,517 monsters across 20 PFUDOR grindfests. ('Total appearances'.)
The average power level per appearance was 1901. (Total power level / appearances.)
The average power level per unique monster was 1701. (Total power level / unique monsters.)
The number of appearances made by level 2250 monsters was 37,936. This is 22.6% of all appearances.

Top 100 players, sorted by the number of times I saw their monsters:

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|   Rank | Trainer           |   Monsters |   Counted |   % of Total Apps |   Avg/Count |   Avg/Monster |   Total pLvl |   % of Total Dmg |
|--------|-------------------|------------|-----------|-------------------|-------------|---------------|--------------|------------------|
|      1 | Sushilicious      |        200 |     16867 |            10.069 |        1935 |          1925 |       385012 |            7.132 |
|      2 | Deadbeatvvv       |        196 |     15133 |             9.034 |        2027 |          2015 |       394980 |            9.417 |
|      3 | Nero-Arc          |        200 |     14820 |             8.847 |        1839 |          1839 |       367884 |            8.837 |
|      4 | morineko          |        200 |     14799 |             8.834 |        1752 |          1701 |       340328 |           10.607 |
|      5 | serorin           |        105 |     10649 |             6.357 |        1697 |          1694 |       177927 |            7.311 |
|      6 | sssss2            |        200 |     10380 |             6.196 |        2100 |          1705 |       341054 |            8.055 |
|      7 | gc00018           |        106 |      7968 |             4.757 |        1743 |          1686 |       178748 |            6.021 |
|      8 | Petal_Kiss        |        200 |      6113 |             3.649 |        2002 |          1552 |       310443 |            3.31  |
|      9 | MidNightPass      |        112 |      5906 |             3.526 |        1656 |          1611 |       180476 |            3.262 |
|     10 | NerfThis          |        141 |      4632 |             2.765 |        2203 |          1590 |       224194 |            3.298 |
|     11 | Nezu              |         48 |      4399 |             2.626 |        1853 |          1727 |        82923 |            2.899 |
|     12 | moanim            |         80 |      3504 |             2.092 |        1960 |          1873 |       149859 |            1.853 |
|     13 | Koaen             |          7 |      3045 |             1.818 |        2214 |          2209 |        15469 |            2.237 |
|     14 | danixxx           |         15 |      2009 |             1.199 |        1723 |          1688 |        25331 |            1.177 |
|     15 | .@_@.@_@.         |         31 |      1714 |             1.023 |        1975 |          1805 |        55978 |            0.971 |
|     16 | Noni              |         37 |      1589 |             0.949 |        1725 |          1723 |        63751 |            0.432 |
|     17 | kamio11           |         11 |      1576 |             0.941 |        1909 |          1753 |        19287 |            0.448 |
|     18 | RoadShoe          |        131 |      1531 |             0.914 |        1740 |          1485 |       194602 |            0.341 |
|     19 | Honeycat          |          4 |      1427 |             0.852 |        2242 |          2062 |         8250 |            0.542 |
|     20 | Mantra64          |         14 |      1402 |             0.837 |        1760 |          1645 |        23033 |            0.455 |
|     21 | threekoala        |         23 |      1306 |             0.78  |        1935 |          1585 |        36475 |            0.288 |
|     22 | StonyCat          |          3 |      1288 |             0.769 |        2177 |          2161 |         6483 |            0.747 |
|     23 | 我叫木头           |          5 |      1250 |             0.746 |        2249 |          2197 |        10989 |            0.232 |
|     24 | dnszkdl           |         11 |      1248 |             0.745 |        1670 |          1668 |        18354 |            0.317 |
|     25 | jantch            |         14 |      1092 |             0.652 |        1834 |          1809 |        25326 |            0.25  |
|     26 | 15112006          |         20 |      1048 |             0.626 |        1838 |          1828 |        36561 |            0.182 |
|     27 | ddwiki            |          4 |      1014 |             0.605 |        2021 |          1944 |         7776 |            0.974 |
|     28 | another planet    |          2 |       986 |             0.589 |        2250 |          2250 |         4500 |            0.85  |
|     29 | qdjseh001         |         88 |       979 |             0.584 |        1502 |          1502 |       132186 |            0.378 |
|     30 | Void Domain       |          2 |       957 |             0.571 |        2250 |          2250 |         4500 |            0.739 |
|     31 | warachiasion      |          3 |       795 |             0.475 |        2038 |          1957 |         5872 |            0.746 |
|     32 | EsotericSatire    |          3 |       790 |             0.472 |        2041 |          1898 |         5696 |            0.236 |
|     33 | Thick Meat Maniac |         74 |       762 |             0.455 |        1622 |          1595 |       118080 |            0.138 |
|     34 | Ichy              |          3 |       760 |             0.454 |        2064 |          1877 |         5632 |            0.533 |
|     35 | foobarwtf         |          2 |       683 |             0.408 |        2095 |          2016 |         4033 |            0.535 |
|     36 | KINOSHITAMIKOTO   |          5 |       679 |             0.405 |        2051 |          1731 |         8658 |            0.42  |
|     37 | fihero            |          2 |       664 |             0.396 |        2103 |          1999 |         3999 |            0.297 |
|     38 | Chizuru Ichinose  |        109 |       641 |             0.383 |        1550 |          1532 |       167025 |            0.251 |
|     39 | mouisaac          |         16 |       592 |             0.353 |        1561 |          1561 |        24990 |            0.195 |
|     40 | ashimoto          |          3 |       566 |             0.338 |        1809 |          1796 |         5390 |            0.101 |
|     41 | HTTP/308          |          5 |       512 |             0.306 |        2192 |          1648 |         8240 |            0.443 |
|     42 | SakiRaFubuKi      |          3 |       504 |             0.301 |        2250 |          2250 |         6750 |            0.536 |
|     43 | Dreamophobia      |          1 |       503 |             0.3   |        2250 |          2250 |         2250 |            0.43  |
|     44 | Ming28561         |         21 |       497 |             0.297 |        2221 |          1724 |        36210 |            0.376 |
|     45 | arialinnoc        |          6 |       493 |             0.294 |        2053 |          1601 |         9606 |            0.418 |
|     46 | atomicpuppy       |          5 |       486 |             0.29  |        2249 |          2238 |        11190 |            0.4   |
|     47 | tibus1979         |          1 |       483 |             0.288 |        2250 |          2250 |         2250 |            0.183 |
|     48 | biborobi          |          1 |       470 |             0.281 |        2250 |          2250 |         2250 |            0.409 |
|     49 | eliudnir          |          1 |       469 |             0.28  |        2250 |          2250 |         2250 |            0.279 |
|     50 | Thira             |          1 |       465 |             0.278 |        2250 |          2250 |         2250 |            0.447 |
|     51 | TheTornPrince     |          1 |       456 |             0.272 |        2250 |          2250 |         2250 |            0.329 |
|     52 | poi999poi         |         41 |       427 |             0.255 |        1505 |          1505 |        61726 |            0.082 |
|     53 | cylinnia          |         43 |       426 |             0.254 |        1517 |          1519 |        65356 |            0.271 |
|     54 | 东三雪碧           |          4 |       425 |             0.254 |        1786 |          1655 |         6622 |            0.391 |
|     55 | LTF               |          2 |       424 |             0.253 |        2247 |          2001 |         4003 |            0.137 |
|     56 | Ass Spanker       |          3 |       412 |             0.246 |        2246 |          1915 |         5745 |            0.215 |
|     57 | treesloth         |          6 |       405 |             0.242 |        1622 |          1613 |         9683 |            0.286 |
|     58 | Mahiro-kyun       |          2 |       380 |             0.227 |        1923 |          1786 |         3573 |            0.242 |
|     59 | LittleSnowBoy     |          1 |       362 |             0.216 |        2033 |          2033 |         2033 |            0.114 |
|     60 | rjgc              |          1 |       359 |             0.214 |        2013 |          2013 |         2013 |            0.333 |
|     61 | sky15jam          |          1 |       353 |             0.211 |        2250 |          2250 |         2250 |            0.079 |
|     62 | Hentai Woody      |          1 |       350 |             0.209 |        2003 |          2003 |         2003 |            0.271 |
|     63 | Anemone           |          1 |       337 |             0.201 |        2250 |          2250 |         2250 |            0.327 |
|     64 | Amiya             |          1 |       322 |             0.192 |        1983 |          1983 |         1983 |            0.121 |
|     65 | J.L.              |          2 |       319 |             0.19  |        1771 |          1722 |         3444 |            0.115 |
|     66 | Hinoka            |          2 |       311 |             0.186 |        2249 |          2197 |         4395 |            0.306 |
|     67 | Maximum_Joe       |          1 |       308 |             0.184 |        1895 |          1895 |         1895 |            0.077 |
|     68 | Nekobenki         |          3 |       306 |             0.183 |        1787 |          1653 |         4961 |            0.309 |
|     69 | sehokila          |          7 |       295 |             0.176 |        1609 |          1605 |        11240 |            0.235 |
|     70 | Alicia Florence   |          2 |       283 |             0.169 |        1728 |          1728 |         3456 |            0.181 |
|     71 | lord of dao       |          2 |       268 |             0.16  |        1848 |          1693 |         3386 |            0.222 |
|     72 | sabregimp         |         12 |       257 |             0.153 |        1539 |          1533 |        18403 |            0.101 |
|     73 | unitready         |          1 |       256 |             0.153 |        1869 |          1869 |         1869 |            0.247 |
|     74 | hayate hisakawa   |          3 |       246 |             0.147 |        1672 |          1627 |         4881 |            0.186 |
|     75 | Bane13            |          1 |       234 |             0.14  |        2028 |          2028 |         2028 |            0.081 |
|     76 | dkdk554           |          1 |       231 |             0.138 |        1839 |          1839 |         1839 |            0.138 |
|     77 | Kira.Yoshikage    |         21 |       206 |             0.123 |        1501 |          1501 |        31531 |            0.069 |
|     78 | ace_amuro         |          2 |       200 |             0.119 |        1659 |          1644 |         3288 |            0.104 |
|     79 | Sapo84            |          2 |       193 |             0.115 |        1629 |          1629 |         3258 |            0.142 |
|     80 | 雨宮 優子          |          2 |       178 |             0.106 |        1671 |          1671 |         3343 |            0.134 |
|     81 | FullestDay        |          1 |       174 |             0.104 |        1773 |          1773 |         1773 |            0.135 |
|     82 | Atypical          |          5 |       173 |             0.103 |        1559 |          1543 |         7718 |            0.062 |
|     83 | e-Stark           |          1 |       170 |             0.101 |        1728 |          1728 |         1728 |            0.159 |
|     84 | mfs5vnut32        |         14 |       155 |             0.093 |        1560 |          1560 |        21840 |            0.059 |
|     85 | hgbdd             |         12 |       150 |             0.09  |        2176 |          1790 |        21489 |            0.061 |
|     86 | Basara Nekki      |          5 |       146 |             0.087 |        1758 |          1758 |         8790 |            0.104 |
|     87 | Ckyc              |          1 |       137 |             0.082 |        1712 |          1712 |         1712 |            0.058 |
|     88 | Juggernaut Santa  |          1 |       135 |             0.081 |        1698 |          1698 |         1698 |            0.039 |
|     89 | jackalo           |          3 |       129 |             0.077 |        1560 |          1560 |         4680 |            0.045 |
|     90 | Holy Bunny        |          2 |       127 |             0.076 |        1617 |          1616 |         3233 |            0.11  |
|     91 | ctaglack          |          3 |       127 |             0.076 |        1643 |          1543 |         4629 |            0.114 |
|     92 | gamagaeru         |          1 |       126 |             0.075 |        1689 |          1689 |         1689 |            0.046 |
|     93 | Sky Arc           |          4 |       126 |             0.075 |        1570 |          1552 |         6210 |            0.058 |
|     94 | 這是蘆葦           |          1 |       125 |             0.075 |        1728 |          1728 |         1728 |            0.104 |
|     95 | pontaqqq          |          5 |       121 |             0.072 |        1567 |          1572 |         7860 |            0.098 |
|     96 | ryuseii           |          4 |       121 |             0.072 |        1963 |          1792 |         7171 |            0.08  |
|     97 | lovegg            |         19 |       121 |             0.072 |        1586 |          1611 |        30612 |            0.044 |
|     98 | Asariborn         |          1 |       117 |             0.07  |        1698 |          1698 |         1698 |            0.019 |
|     99 | ariosty           |          3 |       116 |             0.069 |        1590 |          1590 |         4770 |            0.122 |
|    100 | safmy             |          4 |       111 |             0.066 |        1582 |          1546 |         6187 |            0.05  |

What to think about https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Monster_Lab section "Power Level's Effect On Gifts" ?

• It say "I removed the above section" but the history show only additions.
• The formula is stricken. Why not remove it if it's wrong? Why not removing the strike if it's right?
• It mix the term of "roll" (that could refer either to the final result (Gift Quality Roll) or just to the random number generation result) and PL (that should just be the monster level, but sometimes seems to be an equivalent to the final result (Gift Quality Roll) the way values are compared.
• It look a bit like that part could have been the sum of writings from several people, but all was added by a single person in a single edit, and there's no name or other confirmation of multiple identities involved.

It would be interesting if it was clarified somehow (either just the presentation, or an update based on current actual research, which is why I'm posting here)

2 years have passed, and this is how the monsters have changed:

The main thing that's interesting is how little things have changed in two years. I don't think I've even upgraded any of my most powerful mobs in the last few years and I somehow moved up one place.

The main thing that's interesting is how little things have changed in two years. I don't think I've even upgraded any of my most powerful mobs in the last few years and I somehow moved up one place.

Great summary, and I agree it's interesting and not what I would have expected.

For whatever reasons (could use some thoughts from HV economics experts) I guess monster PL creep somehow slowed down drastically, preventing the game from being ruined (in the eyes of a very few) or making dark/holy melee weapons more sucky (probably the reverse happened when the new SG arenas were introduced).

Still, monster PL creep did affect those things over the (prior) years. Maybe the upcoming HV game versions will have other things to counteract various effects of monster PL creep. Oh yeah, that PL creep also made Overpower way overpowered to the point that it contends for first or second-best 1H potency (which it should not, as Overpower is already by far the best potency for any other melee style) and now potencies will be gone. So yeah.

bump

This was missing in the research thread: data from sssss2, for which I'm very grateful.


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    Legendary Ruby Cotton Pants of Warding
    Legendary Ruby Cotton Pants of Protection
    Legendary Ruby Phase Pants of Niflheim
    Legendary Jade Phase Pants of Niflheim
    Legendary Jade Cotton Pants of Warding
    Legendary Amber Cotton Pants of the Earth-walker
    Legendary Cobalt Cotton Pants of the Curse-weaver
    Legendary Zircon Cotton Pants of Protection
    Legendary Ruby Cotton Pants of Warding
    Legendary Frugal Phase Pants of Niflheim
    4.5 % [102] Magnificent
    48.7 % [1094] Exquisite
    46.1 % [1037] Superior

Lock of Blue Hair => Tier 5 (530/530)

    0.6 % [3] Legendary
    Legendary Cobalt Cotton Pants of Protection
    Legendary Frugal Cotton Pants of the Heaven-sent
    Legendary Charged Cotton Pants of Protection
    5.1 % [27] Magnificent
    45.3 % [240] Exquisite
    49.1 % [260] Superior

Dalek Voicebox => Tier 5 (252/252)

    0.4 % [1] Legendary
    Legendary Frugal Cotton Pants of the Heaven-sent
    4.4 % [11] Magnificent
    50.4 % [127] Exquisite
    44.8 % [113] Superior

Mithra's Flower => Tier 5 (241/241)

    0.8 % [2] Legendary
    Legendary Zircon Phase Pants of Niflheim
    Legendary Frugal Cotton Pants of the Earth-walker
    3.3 % [8] Magnificent
    45.2 % [109] Exquisite
    50.6 % [122] Superior

Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch => Tier 5 (244/244)

    3.7 % [9] Magnificent
    49.6 % [121] Exquisite
    46.7 % [114] Superior

ManBearPig Tail => Tier 5 (252/252)

    0.4 % [1] Legendary
    Legendary Ruby Cotton Pants of Warding
    5.6 % [14] Magnificent
    45.6 % [115] Exquisite
    48.4 % [122] Superior

This was missing in the research thread: data from sssss2, for which I'm very grateful.

If you care about that kind of data, I have some extras to add on:

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Stocking Stuffers (49)
10.2 % [5] Legendary
89.8 % [44] Magnificent

Shrine Fortune (14)
7.1 % [1] Legendary
92.9 % [13] Magnificent

Festival Coupon (72)
1.4 % [1] Peerless
18.1 % [13] Legendary
80.6 % [58] Magnificent

Annoying Gun (36)
5.6 % [2] Peerless
19.4 % [7] Legendary
75.0 % [27] Magnificent

Trophy Tier 5 (81279)
0.0 % [9] Peerless
0.5 % [415] Legendary
5.0 % [4024] Magnificent
47.5 % [38601] Exquisite
47.0 % [38200] Superior
0.0 % [30] 1x Peerless Voucher

Noodly Appendage (4181)
0.1 % [3] Peerless
2.1 % [86] Legendary
20.0 % [836] Magnificent
77.9 % [3255] Exquisite

A while back I discovered something interesting about Random Encounters. They can persist past the dawn!

I've tested it a couple times, and it can allow you to trigger two REs within minutes of each other if you trigger one right before dawn, don't start it, trigger dawn, and then start the first RE (from before dawn) shortly before it expires, and then trigger another RE 30 minutes after dawn.

Not exactly earth shaking discovery, but it's not mentioned in the RE wiki entry. The dawn wiki entry Says "the next encounter cannot be triggered until 30 min. after the dawn event was", but doesn't mention that you can still start REs triggered in the half hour before dawn.

The wiki says "During battle, monsters gain 10%? of MP and 5% SP per active turn."

I tested in battle just now and it seems like on IWBTH difficulty, monsters gain 5% SP per turn (20 Attacks) and 4% SP per turn with Haste active (25 Attacks).

On PFUDOR difficulty, monsters seem to gain roughly 8% SP per turn (12~13 Attacks) and 6% per turn with Haste active (16~17 Attacks). Given my crude testing method it's reasonable to guess, and visually consistent with what I saw in my various trials, that the true gain could have been 8% 7.5% SP per turn.

These tests were performed in isekai at level 344 with 0% Attack Speed Bonus. I used a caveman method of hitting monsters that visually appear to randomly start with close to zero SP. Perhaps it would be better to test by waiting for a monster to execute an SP attack, however I'm not sure they won't regenerate a tiny bit of SP that can't be visually seen during that same turn anyway.

When using Imperil, it seemed that the amount of Imperils needed was roughly double the amount of Attacks, so monster SP regen seems tick-based, as expected. (I think I checked this at PFUDOR and with Haste on).

Question: It seems odd that Haste would only slow down a monster's SP regen by a factor of 1.25, we should expect a slow down factor of 1.5 right? Actually Haste is a multiplying factor of 1.49254 to your speed as I discovered before here but that's trivial and not the reason for this discrepancy. (Also, even if we mistakenly consider and use Haste as being in the "denominator" then that is a mathematical factor of 0.330 which can't be twisted to get the encountered SP performance either).

Perhaps my SP tests are wrong? Anyone else care to check or investigate in some other way, or have an alternate mathematical explanation?

I didn't check monster MP regen but it does appear to be roughly twice as fast as monster SP regen.

(note: This investigation is a precursor to something else, but I don't know if I will ever get around to writing about it.)

Question: It seems odd that Haste would only slow down a monster's SP regen by a factor of 1.25, we should expect a slow down factor of 1.5 right? Actually Haste is a multiplying factor of 1.49254 to your speed as I discovered before here but that's trivial and not the reason for this discrepancy. (Also, even if we mistakenly consider and use Haste as being in the "denominator" then that is a mathematical factor of 0.330 which can't be twisted to get the encountered SP performance either).

Did I really not post about this anywhere?

As of update 0.74 time units taken for an attack or spell are calculated as:

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time_units = minmax(20, 10000 / (100*action_speed_multipliers), 500)

In the simple case of autocast Haste (1.5) with abilities that gives you a time unit cost of 66.666... per regular attack.

(I confirmed this is still the case with Tenboro in PMs when I was trying to work out whether there was a speed factor I hadn't accounted for - it turned out to be the extra 1.25x from spell proficiency.)

I don't think monster regen is normalized around your time units spent at all - just tick based like you mentioned - and I think the numbers you've got are probably pretty close.

That link was useful, but I dont' think it answered my Question: or rather, mysterious problem, that I encountered above. I expect that having Haste on should slow down apparent monster SP regen by a 1.5 factor, since that is what Haste gives. But the SP regen is only slowed by 1.25, which is weird.

I did another test just now to make sure my isekai Haste is working (with full Abilities) and it seemed to increase the duration of my 1H Overwhelming Strikes as expected, from 4 to 6 turns, or a 1.5 factor.

That link was useful, but I dont' think it answered my Question: or rather, mysterious problem, that I encountered above. I expect that having Haste on should slow down apparent monster SP regen by a 1.5 factor, since that is what Haste gives. But the SP regen is only slowed by 1.25, which is weird.

I did another test just now to make sure my isekai Haste is working (with full Abilities) and it seemed to increase the duration of my 1H Overwhelming Strikes as expected, from 4 to 6 turns, or a 1.5 factor.

It may be that a monster's regen is applied whenever the monster gets a turn, so monsters that have any attack speed (ie, PFUDOR +25% and chaos tokens) would seem to be less affected by haste in that manner.

As far as I could tell, all monsters regenerate SP at the exact same percentage rate, so that's probably not the answer. It could still be possible.

In any case, I just did a wild haymaker test and my first guess as to the answer may have been correct. (I already hinted at it above)

I removed my Ability that improves Haste, dropping the improvement of my Haste from 1.5 to the default 1.25, then retested IWBTH both with and without Haste. I got the exact same results as previously, Haste slowed down monster SP regen by a 1.25 factor.

So the answer would seem to be that Haste is partially broken. The Ability that improves Haste, does not improve your speed at all for the purposes of monster MP/SP regen timing. The Ability that improves Haste does work for extending buff/debuff durations.

I don't know for sure that the Ability works for the speed/ticks of your Attacks and enemy Attacks, but I presume it does, or someone would have discovered it by now. Actually now that I think about it, this is not a good assumption. Someone needs to test this. It needs to be tested in a non-1H style, and without any Attack Speed or Casting Speed to mess up the test.

This is creepy because it means there are two timelines for the world. In reality it's probably just bizarre coding. Or maybe the Ability for Haste accidentally affects monsters just as well as yourself.

P.S. - In all these tests that I recently did, I sometimes used Haste on IA and sometimes hardcasted Haste without having it on IA, just to make sure there were no surprises. There were no surprises regarding this, it's always the same.

This morning's tests were helpful.

I tested Scroll of Swiftness (1.6 times boost to action speed and no Ability reliance) and the result was the same as Haste. Enemy SP regen slowed by a 1.25 factor, and there was no observable difference with regular Haste.

I also tested Slow and MagNet (with slowing Ability slotted) and there was no difference to monster SP regen (it took 19 Attacks to fill the SP bar on IWBTH difficulty, it's 1 less Attack because casting Slow/MagNet has a long cast time about equal to 1 Attack).

So everything in my previous post remains confirmed. The additional thing learned is that the 1.25 slowing multiplier to monster MP/SP regen is not because of the Ability being glitched, but rather is probably an intentional mechanism. Apparently a 1.5 times slowing of monster SP regen due to Haste was deemed unfair.

This also means that the Ability improvement to Haste (from 1.25 to 1.5 times action speed) probably works for everything else, such as reducing the number of incoming enemy Attacks relative to each one of your Attacks. Though it wouldn't hurt for someone to confirm it (a script would be ideal for that particular test, and I'm not much of a scripter).

There is another interesting question to test now: How do your Attack Speed and Cast Speed affect monster MP/SP regen? These tests should probably be initially carried out with Haste off. Any mage or DW user would be ideal to perform this. Script is not necessary, just find a random enemy who starts with close to zero SP and count the number of hits it takes to fill his SP bar, like I did.

(note: This investigation is a precursor to something else, but I don't know if I will ever get around to writing about it.)

Although there are still things to investigate above, here's Part 2 of this discussion. I don't know if anyone mentioned this before but TL;DR Banshee weapons are good in the Tower because they will suck out the Spirit of the enemy being targeted. That pesky enemy that you couldn't stick Weaken/Silence on won't be able to use its Spirit attack on you. After more tests, Banshee weapons seem to work as follows:

• Siphon Spirit proc chance works as stated, is not affected by critical hits, and goes up to 30% on a Peerless weapon
• Siphon Spirit proc effect is 0.87% base drain on my Magnificent Rapier, this scales up with player level and equipment quality, like proc duration
• Siphon Spirit proc effect amount does NOT work as stated, in an obvious way
• On my Magnificent Rapier, the log states the amount drained each time is 1~6 SP. It drains as a fixed ratio of what the target monster's currently filled SP is.
• The drain SP written in the log is correct for what is added to your own Spirit bar. Occasionally it's off by 1 SP, so I think actual SP is fractional and rounded in the log.
• I get 1 SP (display log) if the monster has zero SP, all the way to if the monster has a decent amount. I only get 6 SP (display log) if the monster SP is perfectly full.
• The monster loses 2% of its max SP times the number of SP you got. If the log says 6 SP, then the monster loses 12% of its max SP.
• All target monsters seem to be affected the same, regardless of their stats, level, or PL, and including even schoolgirls and Flying Spaghetti Monster.
• Difficulty does not affect any of these Spirit Siphoning amounts
• The amount of damage you do, or activating your own spirit stance, do not affect these Spirit Siphoning amounts
• On IWBTH, siphoning 2 SP is enough to keep a monster's SP bar unchanged that turn. Because it's fractional (?) sometimes 2 SP will let the monster fill slightly.
• On PFUDOR, siphoning 3 SP is enough to keep a monster's SP bar unchanged that turn. Because it's fractional (?) sometimes 3 SP will let the monster fill slightly.
• If your siphon attack is a deathblow, the dead monster will have lost more SP than usual, this is because it won't regenerate its own SP on that turn

I will not say my tests and these results are complete, rigorous, or precisely correct, but perhaps they could be correct to see how it works. I am switching to an Illithid Rapier now. I suspect it will work the same, but because monster MP fills twice as fast and needs half as much to activate (and together with the drain being proportionately less when the monster bar is less full) I think it will not be enough to freeze monsters like Banshee. Even if a monster has already filled its SP bar, all you need is one lucky Banshee strike and you will buy yourself at least two whole turns of no monster Spirit attack.

Just confirming my observations regarding my Illithid weapon before I forget and retire from the season.

• Siphon Magic prof effect is 0.93% base drain on my Legendary Rapier, this scales up with player level and equipment quality
• On my Legendary Rapier, the log states the amount drained each time is 1~8 MP. It drains as a fixed ratio of what the target monster's currently filled MP is.
• My isekai character has about 1530 MP and 1170 SP at around level 350.
• I theorize that the upper maximum of the HP/MP/SP drained could be the stated ~1% percentage times your character's base HP/MP/SP.
• On PFUDOR, even siphoning 8 MP will not reduce a monster's MP bar, it still wants to fill slightly.
• On IWBTH, siphoning 8 MP will reduce a monster's completely filled MP bar just a little.

The performance with MP drain was even slightly worse than the previously hypothesized poor result, for unknown reasons. I probably don't have the general method to calculate the monster HP/MP/SP loss exactly right. We know that they lose an order of magnitude, roughly ten times more than we'd expect. It's amazingly helpful on Banshee weapons to silence monsters, but not enough on Illithid weapons even though it works the same. Vampire weapons might be less laughable than people realize, if the HP drain to monsters is major. This would be difficult to test because we can't see the amount of HP sucked out of monsters' health bars, and we can't trust the log as it only states the HP that we gain.

It's also possible that your other stats might somehow affect the HP/MP/SP loss to monsters. What if proficiencies, Demonic weapons, or your Intelligence and Wisdom stats, increase the damage of Vampire weapons? (similar to the Drain spell)

Theoretical Analysis of Bleeding Wound versus Penetrated Armor, both pre-update and post-update

(I decided to move this from the isekai Update 91 thread, to avoid cluttering it)



Not sure if we experimentally tested or calculated this before, but I'll begin with a beating down Schoolgirls race. Apparently I once tested that Schoolgirls have almost the same PMit as Elementals. They don't get chaos upgrades, which makes a big difference. I'll estimate a level 500 Schoolgirl has 66.6% PMit.

PA x1 would do (1 - 50%) / (1 - 66.6%) ≈ 1.5x damage
PA x2 or Imperil would do 2x damage
PA x3 would do 2.5x damage
PA x3 plus Imperil would do 2.75x damage

BW x1 adds 8% adb per turn that ignores mitigation, or 3 * 8% / 2.434 = 0.099x damage per turn, taking into account elemental strikes and averaged crit
BW x5 adds 0.493x damage per turn ≈ 1.5x damage per turn
BW x5 plus Imperil would do 2.493x damage per turn

Conclusion, it is an extremely close contest! Even closer if you consider that Peerless Shortsword of Slaughter warrior has about 4.3% more adb than Peerless Rapier of Slaughter warrior. And note that is for single targeting a Schoolgirl. If you fought 7 Schoolgirls at once and spreaded them, old BW x1 adds 56% adb that ignores mitigation per spread cycle, thus doing about 1.7x damage, in other words stronger than Penetrated Armor. And that is without Imperil.


For reference, I redo the above calculation and comparison for normal 80% PMit monsters in the old Persistent version of the game.

PA x1 would do (1 - 60%) / (1 - 80%) = 2x damage
PA x2 or Imperil would do 3x damage
PA x3 would do 4x damage
PA x3 plus Imperil would do 4.5x damage

BW x1 adds 8% adb per turn that ignores mitigation, or 5 * 8% / 2.434 = 0.164x damage per turn, taking into account elemental strikes and averaged crit
BW x5 adds 0.822x damage per turn ≈ 1.8x damage per turn
BW x5 plus Imperil would do 3.822x damage per turn ≈ 4x damage if also adjusting for Shortsword higher adb

That is for single targeting in general. For spread targeting, let's say swarms of 7, old BW gets 7 times stronger, so old BW x1 does about 2.15x damage, which is marginally stronger than Penetrated Armor. And this is not considering Imperil. It should also be noted that Bleeding Wound takes effect 1 turn (or entire spread cycle) earlier than Penetrated Armor, which may do absolutely nothing if it wears off before you come back.

Conclusion, old BW versus old PA was properly balanced. I've always said it has been a misconception that Bleeding Wound was weak, and that it even needed Imperil. In practice, players did find that 1H rapier was faster than shortsword without Imperil usage, but if I recall the tested results were not as different as traditional belief held. (That is the reverse of what I just claimed for spread targeting, so what was the difference? Counter attacks would be my guess. They are only improved by PA).


The tremendously increased 6x power of new isekai BW is still worrisome. Let's revisit the calculations in isekai, starting with schoolgirls:

PA x3 is still 2.5x damage
PA x3 plus Imperil is still 2.75x damage
PA x4 is 3x damage against schoolgirl, when you get fresh proc which may be over half the time at high level

BW x1 adds 50% adb that ignores mitigation, or 3 * 50% / 2.5 = 0.6x damage
BW pseudo-maxed I'll say is 165%, so adds 3 * 165% / 2.5 ≈ 2x damage, 3x total, actual cap is 200% but hard to reach
BW pseudo-maxed plus Imperil is thus 4x damage


Against regular monsters in the new version:

PA x4 is 5x damage

BW x1 adds 50% adb that ignores mitigation, or 5 * 50% / 2.5 ≈ 1x damage, our same prior result, note a more generic crit portion because the system is reworked
BW pseudo-maxed adds 5 * 165% / 2.5 ≈ 3.3x damage, for 4.3x total
BW pseudo-maxed plus Imperil is thus 6.3x damage

We've already said that one stack of new BW grants 2x damage for single-targeting. For spreading, one BW stack adds 50% + 40% + 32% + 25.6% + 20.48% + 16.384% + 13.1072% ≈ 197.57%, which is 5x damage. That's exactly the same as one broken new PA hit. Hmm, I guess that's fair! New BW may have a lead in the Schoolgirl race, but that's where I did the most fudging (the 165% came out of my ass, and there is another mathematical flaw in my general approach).

I still think the following tweaks might help to balance new BW versus new PA better.

1) Change Imperil to stack additively/subtractively with Penetrated Armor. Currently, PA loses half its normal efficacy when stacked with Imperil.
2) After doing that, perhaps we can lower the first turn PA proc to half mitigation, as Tenboro suggested earlier. As it would still hit 0% PMit when stacked with Imperil.
3) Fiddle with and lower some of BW's 200%/50%/40%/20% numbers to once again try to make PA versus BW perform the same in the 3 major situations: single-targeting Schoolgirls and/or Tower 200 monsters, single-targeting regular monsters, spreading regular monsters (mostly in theory, as in practice rapier will just OHKO everything).

It's fine to forget all that, the balance is decent now, except that PA is ultra bombastic while BW may actually still be stronger. Tenboro (or Nezu) probably have some way to do sandbox simulations against Schoolgirls to get the real answer.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Skills

Base Skill Damage = Physical_Attack_Base_Damage * Skill_Multiplier * Overcharge %?* 0.02

Shield Bash 1 (25% OC)
Vital Strike 2.5, 5 if stunned (50% OC)
Merciful Blow 5? if Monster HP > 25% (100% OC)

Great Cleave 2.5? (50% OC)
Rending Blow 1? (50% OC)
Shatter Strike 1? (50% OC)

Did some simple tests in IWBTH arena to roughly check multipliers of 2H skills in Persistent. All 2H Abilities slotted. Gear was Legendary Tempestuous Mace of Balance with Magnificent Cloth and my stats:

4096 Attack Base Damage
162.6% Hit Chance
35.7% Crit Chance / +50% Damage
8.6% Attack Speed Bonus

Your spike shield hits Tsukiko Tsutsukakushi for 96 points of cold damage.
Tsukiko Tsutsukakushi hits you for 938 piercing damage.
Shalltear gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
Rending Blow hits Shalltear for 5008 crushing damage
Hvtuber Addiction gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
Rending Blow hits Hvtuber Addiction for 7453 crushing damage
Tryu gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
Rending Blow hits Tryu for 7678 crushing damage
Tsukiko Tsutsukakushi gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
Rending Blow hits Tsukiko Tsutsukakushi for 7367 crushing damage
You use Rending Blow.

Great Cleave hits Hvtuber Addiction for 20407 crushing damage
You use Great Cleave.

Shatter Strike crits Shalltear for 7252 crushing damage
Shatter Strike hits Hvtuber Addiction for 6335 crushing damage
Shatter Strike hits Tryu for 4782 crushing damage
Shatter Strike hits Tsukiko Tsutsukakushi for 5023 crushing damage
You use Shatter Strike.

Shatter Strike hits Shalltear for 4317 crushing damage
Shatter Strike crits Hvtuber Addiction for 6948 crushing damage
Shatter Strike hits Tryu for 4216 crushing damage
Shatter Strike crits Tsukiko Tsutsukakushi for 9136 crushing damage
You use Shatter Strike.

Great Cleave hits Tsukiko Tsutsukakushi for 24277 crushing damage
You use Great Cleave.

You hit Hvtuber Addiction for 1690 crushing damage.
You hit Tryu for 1474 crushing damage.
You crit Tsukiko Tsutsukakushi for 2951 crushing damage.

You hit Shalltear for 847 crushing damage.
You hit Hvtuber Addiction for 1750 crushing damage.
Tryu gains the effect Stunned.
You hit Tryu for 1526 crushing damage.
You hit Tsukiko Tsutsukakushi for 2282 crushing damage.

You hit Hvtuber Addiction for 1735 crushing damage.
You hit Tryu for 1817 crushing damage.
You hit Tsukiko Tsutsukakushi for 2198 crushing damage.

I think there is generally a lot of randomness in damage, I tested it exactly before but forgot the answer, maybe 1~1.5x

If we say Shatter Strike has Skill_Multiplier = 1, then it seems that Rending Blow = 1.5, and Great Cleave = 5, not quite what I expected. Also, all these skills are doing about 2.5 times more damage than my normal attack than the formula would suggest?

Did some tests in IWBTH arena to roughly check multipliers of 1H skills in Persistent. All 1H Abilities slotted. Gear was Magnificent Club of the Nimble with Legendary Plate and my stats:

4950 Attack Base Damage
137.7% Hit Chance
27.8% Crit Chance / +50% Damage

The effect Stunned on My Penis has expired.
Bleeding Wound hits My Penis for 7503 damage.
Cooldown expired for Shield Bash
Your spike shield hits Chino Monster for 5 points of elec damage.
Chino Monster gains the effect Stunned.
You counter Chino Monster for 1469 points of crushing damage.
You block the attack from Chino Monster.
My Penis gains the effect Bleeding Wound.
Vital Strike hits My Penis for 28197 crushing damage
You use Vital Strike.

Shield Bash hits My Penis for 5483 crushing damage
You use Shield Bash.

Your spike shield hits My Penis for 5 points of elec damage.
My Penis gains the effect Stunned.
You counter My Penis for 1254 points of crushing damage.
You block the attack from My Penis.
Vital Strike hits My Penis for 5013 crushing damage
You use Vital Strike.

My Penis gains the effect Deep Burns.
Your spike shield hits My Penis for 5 points of elec damage.
My Penis uses Sunder. You parry the attack.
Vital Strike crits My Penis for 7441 crushing damage
You use Vital Strike.

Chino Monster gains the effect Deep Burns.
Your spike shield hits Chino Monster for 5 points of elec damage.
Chino Monster gains the effect Stunned.
You counter Chino Monster for 1512 points of crushing damage.
Chino Monster uses Crushing Yap of death. You block the attack.
Shield Bash crits My Penis for 7128 crushing damage
You use Shield Bash.

You gain the effect Overwhelming Strikes.
You hit Chino Monster for 1399 crushing damage.

Chino Monster gains the effect Stunned.
You crit Chino Monster for 2161 crushing damage.

The effect Stunned on Chino Monster has expired.
Merciful Blow hits Chino Monster for 16101 crushing damage
You use Merciful Blow.

Shield Bash hits My Penis for 4648 crushing damage
You use Shield Bash.

Your spike shield hits Wild Horse Octavia for 5 points of elec damage.
Wild Horse Octavia gains the effect Stunned.
You counter Wild Horse Octavia for 3008 points of crushing damage.
You block the attack from Wild Horse Octavia.
Your spike shield hits My Penis for 5 points of elec damage.
My Penis gains the effect Stunned.
You counter My Penis for 1423 points of crushing damage.
My Penis uses Smash. You parry the attack.
Vital Strike hits My Penis for 5013 crushing damage
You use Vital Strike.

The effect Stunned on Chino Monster has expired.
The effect Stunned on Wild Horse Octavia has expired.
Regen restores 446 points of health.
Your spike shield hits My Penis for 26 points of elec damage.
My Penis hits you for 446 crushing damage.
You crit Chino Monster for 2289 crushing damage.

The effect Deep Burns on Wild Horse Octavia has expired.
Regen restores 556 points of health.
Your spike shield hits My Penis for 33 points of elec damage.
My Penis crits you for 556 crushing damage.
You hit Chino Monster for 1385 crushing damage.

Your spike shield hits My Penis for 5 points of elec damage.
My Penis uses Smash. You block the attack.
You hit My Penis for 1358 crushing damage.

The effect Stunned on My Penis has expired.
You hit My Penis for 1528 crushing damage.

Regen restores 85 points of health.
You hit My Penis for 1476 crushing damage.

Your spike shield hits Wild Horse Octavia for 5 points of elec damage.
Wild Horse Octavia gains the effect Stunned.
You counter Wild Horse Octavia for 2607 points of crushing damage.
Wild Horse Octavia uses Awakened Red Crush. You block the attack.
Your spike shield hits Chino Monster for 5 points of elec damage.
Chino Monster gains the effect Stunned.
You counter Chino Monster for 1257 points of crushing damage.
You block the attack from Chino Monster.
Merciful Blow hits My Penis for 15535 crushing damage
You use Merciful Blow.

The effect Stunned on Chino Monster has expired.
The effect Deep Burns on My Penis has expired.
Regen restores 2011 points of health.
Wild Horse Octavia gains the effect Deep Burns.
Your spike shield hits Wild Horse Octavia for 133 points of elec damage.
Wild Horse Octavia uses Literally Anything, and hits you for 2095 crushing damage
Your Waifu Is My Meat Toilet has been defeated.
Vital Strike hits Your Waifu Is My Meat Toilet for 52674 crushing damage
You use Vital Strike.

The effect Stunned on Wild Horse Octavia has expired.
Cooldown expired for Vital Strike
You hit My Penis for 1345 crushing damage.

Your spike shield hits My Penis for 5 points of elec damage.
My Penis gains the effect Stunned.
You counter My Penis for 1319 points of crushing damage.
My Penis uses Crush. You block the attack.
You hit My Penis for 1450 crushing damage.

Your spike shield hits My Penis for 5 points of elec damage.
You block the attack from My Penis.
Shield Bash crits Your Waifu Is My Meat Toilet for 12460 crushing damage
You use Shield Bash.

You gain the effect Overwhelming Strikes.
You hit Your Waifu Is My Meat Toilet for 2786 crushing damage.

Chino Monster gains the effect Deep Burns.
Your spike shield hits Chino Monster for 5 points of elec damage.
Chino Monster gains the effect Stunned.
You counter Chino Monster for 1300 points of crushing damage.
You block the attack from Chino Monster.
Your spike shield hits Your Waifu Is My Meat Toilet for 5 points of elec damage.
Your Waifu Is My Meat Toilet gains the effect Stunned.
You counter Your Waifu Is My Meat Toilet for 2862 points of crushing damage.
You parry the attack from Your Waifu Is My Meat Toilet.
Your spike shield hits My Penis for 5 points of elec damage.
My Penis gains the effect Stunned.
You counter My Penis for 1241 points of crushing damage.
You block the attack from My Penis.
Vital Strike hits Your Waifu Is My Meat Toilet for 9117 crushing damage
You use Vital Strike.

The effect Stunned on Chino Monster has expired.
The effect Stunned on Your Waifu Is My Meat Toilet has expired.
The effect Deep Burns on My Penis has expired.
The effect Stunned on My Penis has expired.
Your spike shield hits Wild Horse Octavia for 5 points of elec damage.
Wild Horse Octavia gains the effect Stunned.
You counter Wild Horse Octavia for 2407 points of crushing damage.
You block the attack from Wild Horse Octavia.
You hit Wild Horse Octavia for 2081 crushing damage.

You crit Your Waifu Is My Meat Toilet for 3685 crushing damage.

You hit Wild Horse Octavia for 2106 crushing damage.

I made sure that Spirit Stance and Overwhelming Strikes were off by spamming scan when necessary.