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Hmm yeah, it was applying the base roll damage instead of the final value, although it printed the right one. Should be fixed now.

Works fine! After this Mutant Peacock's HP was at 430.
Spawned Monster A: MID=25 (Mutant Peacock) LV=68 HP=795 MP=59 SP=23 NA=87 Type=hostile

5 5 You block the attack from Rabid Hamster.
5 4 Your counter Mutant Peacock for 184 points of slashing damage.
5 3 You block the attack from Mutant Peacock.
5 2 You gain the effect Shield.
5 1 You cast Shield.
4 6 You evade the attack from Rabid Hamster.
4 5 Rabid Hamster uses Rabid Bite
4 4 Your counter Mutant Peacock for 182 points of slashing damage.
4 3 You block the attack from Mutant Peacock.
4 2 Blue Slime has been defeated.
4 1 You hit Blue Slime for 199 slashing damage.

EDIT:
A multiple counter attack per turn is possible too
13 7 Scary Ghost hits you for 0 physical damage.
13 6 Your counter Cockatrice for 243 points of slashing damage.
13 5 You block the attack from Cockatrice.
13 4 Fire Fox misses the attack against you.
13 3 Your counter Mantitcore for 259 points of slashing damage.
13 2 You block the attack from Mantitcore.
13 1 You hit Fire Fox for 167 slashing damage.

This post has been edited by Master_S: Nov 28 2009, 18:19

nice while defending you may counter too A__A

Has the regularity of Artifacts and Bosses been turned down??

I have seen neither Artifact nor Boss for nearly a week now -fighting in almost all Normal (or harder) Hourlies and Arenas.

Has the regularity of Artifacts and Bosses been turned down??

I have seen neither Artifact nor Boss for nearly a week now -fighting in almost all Normal (or harder) Hourlies and Arenas.

Would it be fair to assume you meant mini-bosses? Bosses are very rare, especially given the small number of hourlies you fight per day (I doubt anyone actually gets all 23). I'm also going to go out on a limb and answer for you 'no', since he almost always tells us when he makes changes to the drop rates.

Has anyone seen if a Counter can crit yet? Is it even possible?

Not yet, however, I did inflict PA on one just before I blocked its attack and did a crap load of damage to it on the counter.

@Tenb: I was wondering if you might re-evaluate the affect that SP has on spirit attacks, and the corresponding range of damage.

In one battle, this happened:

678 SP, 230 Overcharge, Penetrated Armor Proc'd: 25,000 dmg
222 SP, 230 Overcharge, Penetrated Armor Proc'd: 36,000 dmg
7 SP, 230 Overcharege, Penetrated Armor Proc'd: 7,000 dmg.

With 1/3 of my SP I did almost 1.5x the damage as with full. Then, with only 7 SP, or 1%, I did almost 30% of the damage that I did with full. The variance just doesn't seem right.

If its not that crazy variance with attack damage rolls, I think it might be possible to crit with a counter. Just did a counter for +700 damage when the normal is ~5-600. We just can't tell because the log doesn't have a verb (hit/crit), so its like I just a whole watermelon. Minor cosmetic issue, Tenboro probably already has it fixed for the next patch.

@Tenb: I think something got screwed up with Regen/RegenII. I'm pretty sure the number of turns they last got shortened...

Also, when regen/regenII restore 0hp for a turn, there is no message in the battle log, but when cure restores 0hp there is.

Also: the ordering is still screwed up xD

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This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Nov 28 2009, 23:12

Has the regularity of Artifacts and Bosses been turned down??

I have seen neither Artifact nor Boss for nearly a week now -fighting in almost all Normal (or harder) Hourlies and Arenas.

I felt the same way right up until early last night, since I hadn't seen a single Artifact in over a week of Arenas and massive grinding (I've gained 15 levels since last weekend, with no tokens of blood, artifacts, or random boss encounters). Then, in 2 consecutive ~70 round IWs, I got 2 artifacts and fought White Bunneh twice. I figure you're just seeing the same bad luck I was seeing last week, and it'll pick up in time. Now if only I could get a Token of Blood to drop. >_<

Also: the ordering is still screwed up xD

They are ordered by "material" -- gossamer, silk, leather, chain, etc

Still, ordering them by slot would be far better...

Did offhand dmg get reduced for normal DW... cause with my DW prof shouldn't the dmg be closer to 75% of full and not 50% which is what it looks like....

3 2 Your offhand hits Rabid Hamster for 565 piercing damage.
3 1 You hit Rabid Hamster for 991 slashing damage.

5 2 Your offhand hits Mutant Peacock for 467 piercing damage.
5 1 You hit Mutant Peacock for 915 slashing damage.

7 2 Your offhand hits Fire Fox for 841 piercing damage.
7 1 You crit Fire Fox for 1716 slashing damage.

I swear I remember my offhand hitting for closer to 700 on normal hits and 1100 on crits before this last update.


these are some attacks using the Niten Ichiryu fighting style

6 2 Your offhand hits Mutant Peacock for 814 slashing damage.
6 1 You crit Mutant Peacock for 1379 slashing damage.

3 2 Your offhand hits Mutant Peacock for 539 slashing damage.
3 1 You hit Mutant Peacock for 999 slashing damage.

looks like the offhand dmg is the same isn't regular duel wield supposed to offhand strike for more...

ok just changed back to my normal weps and got this

13 2 Your offhand hits Mind Raper for 282 piercing damage.
13 1 You hit Mind Raper for 838 soul damage.

9 2 Your offhand hits Apathetic Canuck for 319 piercing damage.
9 1 You hit Apathetic Canuck for 806 soul damage.

wtf....

This post has been edited by uth: Nov 29 2009, 03:46

Does what you're wearing effect what sort of equip drops you get?

I don't think so; seeing as I've been a one-handed light swordsman and I get the entire range from one-handed, to staffs to heavy armor.

Did offhand dmg get reduced for normal DW... cause with my DW prof shouldn't the dmg be closer to 75% of full and not 50% which is what it looks like....

3 2 Your offhand hits Rabid Hamster for 565 piercing damage.
3 1 You hit Rabid Hamster for 991 slashing damage.

5 2 Your offhand hits Mutant Peacock for 467 piercing damage.
5 1 You hit Mutant Peacock for 915 slashing damage.

7 2 Your offhand hits Fire Fox for 841 piercing damage.
7 1 You crit Fire Fox for 1716 slashing damage.

I swear I remember my offhand hitting for closer to 700 on normal hits and 1100 on crits before this last update.


these are some attacks using the Niten Ichiryu fighting style

6 2 Your offhand hits Mutant Peacock for 814 slashing damage.
6 1 You crit Mutant Peacock for 1379 slashing damage.

3 2 Your offhand hits Mutant Peacock for 539 slashing damage.
3 1 You hit Mutant Peacock for 999 slashing damage.

looks like the offhand dmg is the same isn't regular duel wield supposed to offhand strike for more...

ok just changed back to my normal weps and got this

13 2 Your offhand hits Mind Raper for 282 piercing damage.
13 1 You hit Mind Raper for 838 soul damage.

9 2 Your offhand hits Apathetic Canuck for 319 piercing damage.
9 1 You hit Apathetic Canuck for 806 soul damage.

wtf....

I did my Arenas in DW earlier today as usual...and I don't remember seeing Offhand Damage that bad.

Unfortunately for me, I wasn't checking very carefully.

As soon as I finish this 200-round Item World that I am currently in (almost done), I'll run a DW session of my own and see if I am getting the same lousy damage that you are.

Is it at all possible that this is some bug that affects only you, or are errors of this sort usually unversal to all HV players??


This post has been edited by Thanos008: Nov 29 2009, 08:35

I did my Arenas in DW earlier today as usual...and I don't remember seeing Offhand Damage that bad.

Unfortunately for me, I wasn't checking very carefully.

As soon as I finish this 200-round Item World that I am currently in (almost done), I'll run a DW session of my own and see if I am getting the same lousy damage that you are.

Is it at all possible that this is some bug that affects only you, or are errors of this sort usually unversal to all HV players??

Might just be me, could be some bug from trying out Niten Ichiryu, I don't know only noticed cause I needed like 2x the consumables for Crusade, and Sealed Power today. When I get an offhand strike it's not 1-shotting normal monster anymore unless it's a crit, so I'm definitely doing less dmg for some reason.... I kinda think that maybe even my main hand is hitting for less then before. Weird thing is that it seemed to be fine on Friday.

This post has been edited by uth: Nov 29 2009, 14:34

I just realized an Item World bug...

I bought a Flimsy Bronze Dagger awhile back, and Item World won't let me train/enter it. It doesn't even appear on the list of available Item Worlds...

[hv.e-hentai.org] http://hv.e-hentai.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8b7b3e9731

I was going to attach screencaps but, apparently we cannot do attachments anymore. Plus, when my computer died, it took my Gannonman password with it so, I cannot show you.

Might just be me, could be some bug from trying out Niten Ichiryu, I don't know only noticed cause I needed like 2x the consumables for Crusade, and Sealed Power today. When I get an offhand strike it's not 1-shotting normal monster anymore unless it's a crit, so I'm definitely doing less dmg for some reason.... I kinda think that maybe even my main hand is hitting for less then before. Weird thing is that it seemed to be fine on Friday.

It isn't just you.

Offhand Weapon DMG has been severely gimped (roughly 25 to 33% of Main Hand DMG by my guesstimate).


Would we report that here, or over in the Helpdesk Thread??

I know that I'm not the most meticulous reader of Tenboro's notes, but I'm pretty sure that this wasn't intentional -or at least if it was, it wasn't reported on.

Maybe this has something to do with that Katana/Wakizashi thing that he's set up, and maybe, somehow, the effects of that lower-offhand-DMG, dual-wield style can't be contained to just one or two weapons.

I just realized an Item World bug...

I bought a Flimsy Bronze Dagger awhile back, and Item World won't let me train/enter it. It doesn't even appear on the list of available Item Worlds...

[hv.e-hentai.org] http://hv.e-hentai.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8b7b3e9731

I was going to attach screencaps but, apparently we cannot do attachments anymore. Plus, when my computer died, it took my Gannonman password with it so, I cannot show you.

Equipment sorting is screwed up right now, so maybe it's not where you think it should be in the equipment list?

I just realized an Item World bug...

I bought a Flimsy Bronze Dagger awhile back, and Item World won't let me train/enter it. It doesn't even appear on the list of available Item Worlds...

[hv.e-hentai.org] http://hv.e-hentai.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8b7b3e9731

I was going to attach screencaps but, apparently we cannot do attachments anymore. Plus, when my computer died, it took my Gannonman password with it so, I cannot show you.

If you bought it less than 24 hours ago, it could have just gone through the Item World. The timer follows the weapon, not the owner. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Offhand Weapon DMG has been severely gimped (roughly 25 to 33% of Main Hand DMG by my guesstimate).
Would we report that here, or over in the Helpdesk Thread??

Hmm.. seems as if I left some debug code in there that forced the are-we-in-niten-mode check to be true. Should be back to normal. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Equipment sorting is screwed up right now, so maybe it's not where you think it should be in the equipment list?

I wouldn't call it screwed up. The way it is right now makes it much easier to find things when you have a mountain of stuff.

Hmm.. seems as if I left some debug code in there that forced the are-we-in-niten-mode check to be true. Should be back to normal. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I think it could still be messed up.

You do not however gain any weapon proficiencies while using the Niten Ichiryu fighting style. Furthermore, the damage component from the offhand is reduced to 25%, upgradable to 50% through dual-wield proficiency, and the off-hand does not gain the parry bonus you get with dual-wielding.

Is regular DW offhand damage supposed to be capped at 50% as well? Because that's what I'm getting. I'm capped at 229 DW proficieny, which is close enough for me to notice it will never go over 50% even at 250 proficiency.


All from the same round with maxed overcharge.

1 2 Your offhand hits Mind Raper for 1407 piercing damage.
1 1 You crit Mind Raper for 3039 soul damage.

2 2 Your offhand hits Cookie Monster for 747 piercing damage.
2 1 You hit Cookie Monster for 1779 soul damage.

3 2 Your offhand hits Giant Panda for 1148 piercing damage.
3 1 You hit Giant Panda for 2296 soul damage.

4 2 Your offhand hits Zombie Cow for 522 piercing damage.
4 1 You hit Zombie Cow for 1318 soul damage.

5 2 Your offhand hits Zombie Cow for 930 piercing damage.
5 1 You crit Zombie Cow for 1972 soul damage.

7 2 Your offhand hits Manthra for 595 piercing damage.
7 1 You hit Manthra for 1309 soul damage.

This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Nov 29 2009, 21:19