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post Apr 21 2025, 02:18
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QUOTE(Drone-chan @ Apr 20 2025, 01:25) *

but isn't that just saying lgbtqr+- is just a mental illness? progressives really do the horse shoe theory right don't they


Its the only logical explanation that they must be part of the LGBTQCIA+ because 90% of the children that are joining the ranks as non-binary or being upgraded to trans are autistic, have depression, social anxiety, and are heavy social media users and often a combination of all factors.



Also pretty much all conversations with mates are like this atm:



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post Apr 22 2025, 07:00
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i can't believe they tainted that movement,if only the lies get spotlight first for long time until a truth come,that wouldn't be happen.
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post Apr 22 2025, 23:39
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I Googled if body dysphoria is a mental illness.

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Yes, body dysphoria is a recognized mental health disorder. It is characterized by an excessive preoccupation with perceived flaws in one's physical appearance, leading to significant distress and impairment in daily functioning.



Then Googled if gender dysphoria is a mental illness.

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No, gender dysphoria is not a mental illness in itself, but it can be a symptom of a broader mental health condition. The DSM-5, the diagnostic manual used by mental health professionals, does not consider gender dysphoria a mental disorder. Instead, it's a feeling of distress experienced by individuals whose gender identity differs from their sex assigned at birth



Oh, look...

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Gender dysphoria was previously classified as a mental disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5). However, in the 2019 revision of the ICD-11 (International Classification of Diseases), it was reclassified as a condition related to sexual health.
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post Apr 23 2025, 15:23
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QUOTE(Honeycat @ Apr 22 2025, 11:39) *

I Googled if body dysphoria is a mental illness.
Then Googled if gender dysphoria is a mental illness.
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Yeah and despite what the activists on social media say, it really is a problem that it is not classed as a mental illness anymore.

In countries with functional health care systems they do not get the support for their mental health that they would otherwise have access to, so this means that people that are being affirmed usually deteriorate mentally after 1-2 years and end up far worse than if they had traditional mental health support.

In the US, it means that insurance may not cover mental heath treatments and support, so once people get put on the gender affirmation rails, their are basically heading towards self destruction and/or bankruptcy.
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post May 2 2025, 08:47
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I saw British person on the bus today, can’t tell if trans or a regular woman.

British…as always.
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post May 10 2025, 09:17
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depression is a mental illness and people get antidepressants to try to deal with it.

regarding concern about body image, the fact that "beauty products" (not to mention breast implants, penis enlargement tricks, etc.) are billion dollar industries might indicate that insecurity about body appearance is not exclusive to transgender individuals.
Men who spend hours shaving and stropping their straight blade razors and obsessing over a perfect shave and complexion, women who buy make-up and $80 shampoo. Women (XX genetic women if you care about the distinction) who think they suffer from "resting bitch face," or maybe have been told by men that they're intimidating because they're so tall. Men (XY if it matters to you) who feel insecurity about how short they are, or think their voice isn't deep enough. It's all the same shit.

Sure, you could argue there is more of that at play with some transgender people, but I can say from several people in my life that there are many transgender women who don't give a fuck about makeup or lipstick or $80 shampoo, they just don't feel at home trying to act manly.

It's all fine and good to say "being a man is what you make of it, not what society dictates" and I personally agree with that statement. But my view of the world and my experiences in it are only my own, and I don't think I have any reason to believe my views are more "real" than anyone else's.

Even though I personally lean towards saying "gender is bullshit anyway, we're all just humans even if we do have some genetic differences and it really shouldn't fucking matter," it's not really any of my business if someone else wants to be a boy or girl or apache attack helicopter or whatever. So I think they should have the right to do what makes them feel good in their limited time on earth, since they only have one shot at it I don't want to force them to live a life that makes them feel bad when there are things they can do that might make them feel better, if only for their own sakes.


Also, terms like "autistic" are used to hint at people having a certain set of traits that make them social outliers. Turns out gender nonconforming people have trouble fitting in, so big surprise, many gender nonconforming people are labelled autistic. But the word "autistic" only has the meaning which we give it. Even without a word like "autism" in our lexicon we'd still have people exhibiting those traits. Saying that being depressed or autistic "made" these people act the way they do is sort of backwards because the terms exist to describe behaviour, but the behaviour is the thing that is "real" and it would be real with or without those terms.

Also on a related note it turns out being depressed can be a result of being a social outcast who is constantly told that your conception of yourself and the world isn't valid and that you should just live a lie instead.

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post May 12 2025, 05:13
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QUOTE(Moonlight Rambler @ May 9 2025, 21:17) *

Also, terms like "autistic" are used to hint at people having a certain set of traits that make them social outliers. Turns out gender nonconforming people have trouble fitting in, so big surprise, many gender nonconforming people are labelled autistic.

Also on a related note it turns out being depressed can be a result of being a social outcast who is constantly told that your conception of yourself and the world isn't valid and that you should just live a lie instead.


Taking longer to understand conceptualizations of gender is different to being gender non-conforming. Its like how there is a world of difference between being on the autism spectrum, being transsexual, and being non-binary/gender queer. There is some overlap but all three are very different.

QUOTE(Moonlight Rambler @ May 9 2025, 21:17) *

Also on a related note it turns out being depressed can be a result of being a social outcast who is constantly told that your conception of yourself and the world isn't valid and that you should just live a lie instead.


Depression is tricky. There are usually a host of factors including metabolic, social, stress factors and genetic. If you have to lie about your identity it can make you depressed but also if you are already depressed going trans has a super low success rate for curing depression on its own. Autists and young women are super easy to gaslight, but it will then give them super depression 2-4 years down the track especially if you castrated them.


It is true the social aspect complicates things. Look as Sensualaoi's final psych report for instance, they assessed that he was OCD / Bipolar and depressive, not that he was a pedo / transexual nor autistic. The incident with his younger cousin when he was younger lead to his family branding him as a pedo then he internalised that even though he wasn't actually attracted to minors according to the psychologist. He would also fixate on things and also try to hang out with younger people to be socially accepted. He missed so much school when he was going through episodes that he probably should have been held back a year as he was not as socially developed as his peers. He was developmentally challenged socially even to the end, where he would tell randoms he was a pedo and then claim the world was unfair for ostracizing him.

Then trying to get social media acceptance he got ten or more covid19 mRNA vaccinations and that took him out.



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post May 13 2025, 06:52
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ May 11 2025, 23:13) *

Taking longer to understand conceptualizations of gender is different to being gender non-conforming. Its like how there is a world of difference between being on the autism spectrum, being transsexual, and being non-binary/gender queer. There is some overlap but all three are very different.

autism is a concept that offers one explanation for specific real world phenomena. There is no "autism particle" or anything of that sort; it is a term humans created to label each other.
People who would be dubbed "autistic" by a doctor today existed long before the word "autistic" was coined.

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post May 13 2025, 14:56
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autism is a concept that offers one explanation for specific real world phenomena. There is no "autism particle" or anything of that sort; it is a term humans created to label each other.


Insufficient estrogen or maldeveloped receptors in vitro is one of the biggest factors. What is causing that?

There is evidence that women blasting and cruising on the pill was found to be a huge risk factor a decade ago.
Then we have new factors such as almost all feminine products contain endocrine disruptors too for some god forsaken reason, telfon and microplastics that are disruptors, heavily processed unsaturated oils and the new one added a month ago, synthetic industrial anti-oxidants being added to processed and fast foods.

Of course then there genetic factors but those link into the in vitro prenatal development.


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People who would be dubbed "autistic" by a doctor today existed long before the word "autistic" was coined.


I used to volunteer to try to work with the 'true blood' full autists that are barely functional or non-functional. Damn, the people that work with them need iron determination and patience.

Now every man and his dog is the TV / Hollywood high functioning self diagnosed 'quirky' autistic.
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post May 14 2025, 09:11
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We used to define autism differently. In the 80s, autism was very rare because only what's called nonverbal autism these days qualified. IE, they never talked to anybody, ever, at all, and their inner world was a mystery. That's what the word meant to people. What is called autistic now was called being weird.

Yet another case of overmedicalization. No one is shy or nervous anymore, they have generalized anxiety. No one is sad, they have depression. No one has trouble concentrating due to learned behavior patterns, they have adult-onset ADHD etc. Your kid is not autistic because they don't like a certain texture in vegetables or hate following orders. Just like you're not OCD (or autistic) for enjoying things laid out in an orderly fashion.

At least autism is real to some degree, but it too has become one of those labels you can go get from a doctor for street cred and avoid the social banishment of being "neurotypical" (ick! boring!). Therapy speak was a mistake, and people "shopping" for doctors until they get the diagnosis they're after is a big part of this. People don't want to hear they're healthy because that implies personal responsibility or responsibility as a parent. Having a diagnosis, any diagnosis, makes it less personal and implies you're facing something beyond of what a regular person is expected to handle. Making you a hero even for doing a bad job at parenting or being a lazy fat fuck obnoxious self-obsessed asshole or whatever problems the person may be experiencing. There's been a cultural shift in treating medicine as just another "the customer is always right!" profession, which the doctors appease to keep their business. It's like those hack doctors in the 2000s who specialized in prescribing medical marijuana for anybody who walked in, except for social acceptance and to feed psychoactive drugs to 8-year-olds.

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post May 16 2025, 14:37
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The error returned was:

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post May 17 2025, 21:27
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QUOTE(kotitonttu @ May 14 2025, 09:11) *

ADHD etc


speaking of which [archive.is] here's an interesting read

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post May 18 2025, 06:54
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QUOTE(Scedye @ May 16 2025, 02:37) *

The error returned was:

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Dude, thats not a glitch that is a feature.

QUOTE(Drone-chan @ May 17 2025, 09:27) *

speaking of which [archive.is] here's an interesting read


In the west there was a shift in education to see little boys as defective little girls in terms of behavior and also to change the structure of the school day and the curriculum to help female students perform better. The cost has been the declining performance of male students and the over application medication as a medical crutch.

The diets also shifted from more proteins and fat to focusing on carbs which is terrible for children in school.

The propaganda is so wild that saying let boys be boys is a hate crime. We are not saying that they should abuse girls like in the feminist propaganda but they should have positive responsible male role models and education system that does not hate them.

For example they have done several studies now finding if they change the name to a female name then they get higher marks and better feedback.
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post May 20 2025, 18:44
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QUOTE(Drone-chan @ May 17 2025, 22:27) *

speaking of which [archive.is] here's an interesting read

Good read. Thanks.

I'm 100% sure I could've gotten an ADD/ADHD diagnosis as a kid, and probably still could. It's one of those things like depression where the definitions are so vague almost anybody could describe their situation and depending on the wording they choose, they either get a dianosis or don't. Eternally grateful my parents did not take me to a doctor.

I particularly enjoyed this quote:
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He understands his colleagues’ desire to find airtight evidence for the biological nature of A.D.H.D. that could help them defend the diagnosis against those who would dismiss it altogether. “In the field, we’re so frightened that people will say it doesn’t exist,” he says. “That this is just bad parenting, from the right, or this is just a product of our postindustrial society, from the left. We have to double down because we’re terrified of what will happen to the kids who can’t get the meds.

What's is with this attitude that the goal of scientists is to find proof that ADHD is real, rather than to find out whether it's real? Why would it be a bad thing if it turns out to be a result of external factors meaning there isn't anything inherently wrong with ADHD patients' brains? It's almost as if the goal of modern medical research is to find justifications for medicating.

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In the west there was a shift in education to see little boys as defective little girls in terms of behavior and also to change the structure of the school day and the curriculum to help female students perform better. The cost has been the declining performance of male students and the over application medication as a medical crutch.

This is definitely true, and also something that always makes me question when I see medical trials that advertise the "positive effects" of psychoactive drugs. Positive in what regard? It makes children more suited to perform repetitive boring tasks and follow orders in an unnatural environment? Yeah, if you drug children, it's easier to get them to obey. That's not an entirely shocking discovery and even if it proves that the drugs are "working", it doesn't mean that prescribing them is good for the child. I've taken amphetamines recreationally and they definitely work, not that there's much doubt about that, but it doesn't mean I'd like to be a junkie with a doctor's permission.

It's also another example of an over-focus on metrics. Good grades are good, bad grades are bad, so a pill that brings the grade average up must be good. When more and more parents feel like they need to put their kids on these meds just to function in the school system, that must mean that the pill is just really good. TRUST THE EXPERTS.
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post May 22 2025, 02:10
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I was diagnosed with autism and ADD by a real psychologist a few years ago. Autism is inherited, it is not caused by vaccines. Looking back, I recognize that my mother was on the spectrum. I used to make fun of nerds with the 'tism and now discovered I have it. But I've always suspected I did and considered it a weakness at first, but it's just about being different and dealing with certain challenges. As a child and during my adult life, I've been called artistic, a bit strange, aloof, and the most common one, eccentric. I've done a lot of masking during my life. In my day as a kid, we weren't coddled, we got our ass beat.


A lot of these zoomers with blue-hair and bull nose rings that claim to have autism and want to get their nuts cut off are nothing more than spoiled assholes who need social media attention. I was watching a show about how Vietnam War and racial protester libs in the old days were allowed to have acid by the government to dull them down and they dropped acid and became hippies. Maybe the government should hand out acid again to zombify these current ones because they're so violent.
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post May 31 2025, 08:56
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ May 13 2025, 08:56) *
I used to volunteer to try to work with the 'true blood' full autists that are barely functional or non-functional. Damn, the people that work with them need iron determination and patience.

Now every man and his dog is the TV / Hollywood high functioning self diagnosed 'quirky' autistic.
I'm not self diagnosed, for what it's worth. It's a medical diagnosis that i went though a stupid number of excruciatingly boring tests to get.

But i also was supremely annoyed when i would get shoved into "autism support groups" because the people there were mostly way "lower functioning" and hard for me to really relate to.

QUOTE(Honeycat @ May 21 2025, 20:10) *
I was diagnosed with autism and ADD by a real psychologist a few years ago. Autism is inherited, it is not caused by vaccines. Looking back, I recognize that my mother was on the spectrum. I used to make fun of nerds with the 'tism and now discovered I have it. But I've always suspected I did and considered it a weakness at first, but it's just about being different and dealing with certain challenges. As a child and during my adult life, I've been called artistic, a bit strange, aloof, and the most common one, eccentric. I've done a lot of masking during my life. In my day as a kid, we weren't coddled, we got our ass beat.
Mostly a similar experience here.

QUOTE(Honeycat @ May 21 2025, 20:10) *
A lot of these zoomers with blue-hair and bull nose rings that claim to have autism and want to get their nuts cut off are nothing more than spoiled assholes who need social media attention.
I am some sort of queer but for what it's worth I've never considered surgical intervention. And never had any interest in piercings or other performative expressions like that either. Anything I do is for myself, not for others to see and "validate" me for. I know what I'm about.

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By the odor coming in the window, I can't tell if the flips next door are burning a tire or cooking something.
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post Jun 17 2025, 02:30
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QUOTE(Honeycat @ Jun 15 2025, 21:41) *
By the odor coming in the window, I can't tell if the flips next door are burning a tire or cooking something.
Got a friend who drove threw new jersey and reported seeing people cooking meat over a burning tire. Could it be both?

On another note, can we skip to the part where the state of israel loses all remaining international support yet?

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the state of israel loses all remaining international support yet?


They don't have support, they have hostages.
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