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Reddit says the c4 bill makes it illegal to get conversion therapy

Parliament of Canada unanimously passes Bill C-4 banning conversion therapy for adults and youth

[www.reddit.com] https://www.reddit.com/r/UpliftingNews/comm...passes_bill_c4/

I can't find anything about what you are referring to because everything is over a year ago, may you link an article?

This post has been edited by AhumanRS: Mar 26 2023, 17:16

lol Canada C4 bill made it illegal to not castrate your children in some circumstances.

I guess Canada is fatally cucked now.

I'm going to plant some C4 at Justin Castro's house... In Minecraft.

I'm going to plant some C4 at Justin Castro's house... In Minecraft.

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Jazz Jennings, the star trans kid is now 23, and the story has gone dark like every forced child gender transition since the 80s.

The mother was obviously doing it for the attention and the TV show, but its even more apparent now. In the interview she talks about how she fears Jazz will de-transition when 'she' goes to college outside of her constant supervision. The mother even talks about how she has been dilating Jazz by force for years now, because Jazz does not want to do it anymore.

The Mother is turbo-gaslighting Jazz, claiming that she transitioned him because she loves him, that if Jazz does de-transitions he will waste all the love and effort the mother put in to make Jazz his 'real self'. The mother even goes as far to talk about how she threatens to kill or injure Jazz if he de-transitions, like that's a good thing.

Jazz is also now talking like every child that was forced transitioned, he does not feel like himself when presenting as a woman, he's attracted to women, and is regretting the surgery. The mother is just like, you need to push all the dark feelings down and bury them to be your real self.

Most of the 80/90s experiments ended with the children raging and becoming suicidal / homicidal once they live detached from the gaslighting of the parents/doctors.

You always post a million paragraphs of information and never give out sources like it's some ancient pirate's treasure map and if I go 3 million paces left after 70 thousand paces up, I will find a video by "Shape Shifter alien emote" where they show footage of this

I have to assume you are talking about [www.reddit.com] https://www.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/1...omment/jd8c80s/
And

Most of the 80/90s experiments ended with the children raging and becoming suicidal / homicidal once they live detached from the gaslighting of the parents/doctors.

Don't forget that this is the same position you're putting actually trans people in if you deny them the ability to transition. Either way, you end up with a person stuck in a body that's the wrong sex for their mind.

I'm tired of concern trolls who focus on force-transitioned kids and hate genuine trans people.

This post has been edited by Necromusume: Mar 27 2023, 01:27

Don't forget that this is the same position you're putting actually trans people in if you deny them the ability to transition. Either way, you end up with a person stuck in a body that's the wrong sex for their mind.

For like 1-2% of population maybe. The majority of the treatments developed were for adults that had gone through months of therapy or longer and then after informed consent then turned to hormones and less often surgery.

The issue is with children. Puberty blockers cause massive life long complications especially when they are on them for a long duration. It also causes transition complications, the success rates for mtf surgery fall dramatically if the child was on puberty blockers. Cross-sex hormones at an early age also cause dramatic issues, especially for women. Both men and women need estrogen, but in the case of females taking cross sex hormones and estrogen blockers is that your body deteriorates rapidly. There are a lot of girls going on cross sex hormones and estrogen blockers saying they were informed about the side effects. The other issue is that testosterone will only make you feel better for 1-2 years, then your body counter adapts. The crushed estrogen will also then start lowering your life expectancy with degeneration of bones, eyes, joints, heart, brain, as well as 20-40% experiencing long lasting fertility issues.

The majority of children that experience transient gender dysphoria if left as normal children, or just socially transitioned, will end up being straight or gay. For boys its a higher percentage that just end up as gay. For girls a higher percentage end up as straight.

The argument they use is the misquoted suicide rate, but the actual suicide rate is the same as the male suicide rate. The rate of reporting attempted suicide or serious suicidal ideation is the same as the rate for women.

Can children/parents make informed rational consent when the default position is the affirm rather than to inform?

Canada is already starting to offer assisted suicide to people that transitioned early then hit their 20s with multiple ongoing medical complications.

I'm tired of concern trolls who focus on force-transitioned kids and hate genuine trans people.

I've had adult trans friends for decades. Mostly drag queens, but also those that transitioned completely.
It used to be that you would be supported for a long time before transitioning. They were adults, they were well informed, they had gone through therapy, they had plenty of time to consider. At least for the people I knew they transitioned socially first and were pretty sure about it. I've had more friends that transitioned socially, or got involved in drag, but then just came out as gay and that was the identity that they were happy with.

The issue is that we are condensing the timeline of support, informed consent and rushing children past the point of no return before they even understand the implications.

Well, the reason for that is, because passability dramatically increases as people start hormone replacement earlier. It's cold comfort to be told "You're probably just gay" if you know you're not. Trans people pretty much universally choose to start earlier, or wish they could have started earlier, so they won't be clocked for life and therefore, socially excluded and treated like shit for life. *If* there is a health risk from it, that's a recent claim, and it's a risk that many people would be willing to take. Waiting until you're 18, or 21, or 30, or 40, is not free in terms of its effects on passability.

Omelet

Eggs

I can't wait until more and more people decide that they not just have the "wrong" gender but that they also are foxes or wolfs. 2040 or so the first successful hairy snout and tail transplantation, removed the human ears and instead they have new ears made of flesh of their butt and some genital hairs. The new furry ears are obviusly without any function, but hey, some "women" can't get pregnant, so being deaf is not that bad. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Maybe with the next nuclear war, some happy little mutations in humans will happen. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Ah, but please spare the kids with trans stuff. It's bad enough that in some religions kids have to be circumcised. But brain washing them and support them to make them believe they are in a "wrong body" is more than wrong.
It should also be a requirement to see some videos of actual transition operations. And of course some before/after pictures. This should help people realize that they shouldn't do the transition thing.

I grew up when there was no social support for trans kids at all, and vicious treatment, brainwashing and gaslighting by their parents, teachers, and everyone around them to try to bully them into not being trans was the norm. That is equally wrong. It also didn't work.

Furries are a false analogy. It is biologically possible for the human brain, as well as those of other species, to differentiate as the opposite sex relative to the body. It is not biologically possible for it to develop as a wolf or fox brain.

And I actually do not recommend surgery, because the surgical options are still too crude.

I can't wait until more and more people decide that they not just have the "wrong" gender but that they also are foxes or wolfs. 2040 or so the first successful hairy snout and tail transplantation, removed the human ears and instead they have new ears made of flesh of their butt and some genital hairs. The new furry ears are obviusly without any function, but hey, some "women" can't get pregnant, so being deaf is not that bad. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

That's like the "if we allow gay marriage, people will be wanting to legalize pedophilia/necrophilia/zoophilia next" argument that people were using a decade ago.

Also there are actual biological, non-menopausal, non-child XX women who can't get pregnant. Just a reminder.

Ah, but please spare the kids with trans stuff. It's bad enough that in some religions kids have to be circumcised. But brain washing them and support them to make them believe they are in a "wrong body" is more than wrong.
It should also be a requirement to see some videos of actual transition operations. And of course some before/after pictures. This should help people realize that they shouldn't do the transition thing.

"ThINk oF ThE ChiLDreN" is one of my least favorite arguments in almost any circumstance, this one included. I think most parents aren't doing what you say, and the simple act of informing them that it's okay to think of themselves as a boy or girl or whatever and self-determine isn't going to do anything other then help kids who are dysphoric to understand themselves better and realize they aren't going to be punished for how they feel.

I know a trans girl who wished she had heard about transgenderism (and "girls in boys' bodies") earlier, because she thought it might have made her childhood less miserable. I also think that most parents aren't going to do that and are more likely to try to indoctrinate their kids into some religious faith that they use as an excuse to be horrible to others.

Or for those same parents to circumcise their kids without their consent.

Or both.

Kids didn't ask to be born into the world, I think it's the least we can do to make their experience on this planet they've been forced into less miserable. If for some that means transitioning, that's not any of your business, in my opinion.

Well, the reason for that is, because passability dramatically increases as people start hormone replacement earlier. It's cold comfort to be told "You're probably just gay" if you know you're not. Trans people pretty much universally choose to start earlier, or wish they could have started earlier, so they won't be clocked for life and therefore, socially excluded and treated like shit for life. *If* there is a health risk from it, that's a recent claim, and it's a risk that many people would be willing to take. Waiting until you're 18, or 21, or 30, or 40, is not free in terms of its effects on passability.

This is the core of my defense, too. Some are luckier than others, but for trans girls especially this can be a huge problem.

I'm tired of concern trolls who focus on force-transitioned kids and hate genuine trans people.

Agreed, and very well put.

To put it in a computing analogy, I think that if someone runs:

CODE

sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /

it probably means they really want to wipe all of their data most of the time. And I don't think we should be stopping everyone from doing that and removing the ability to use 'rm' because one person might make a mistake that impacts no one but themselves, or because someone might possibly have deleted someone else's files that one time.

I am also squeamish about the surgery stuff, but if someone wants it and thinks it will help their psychological wellbeing, then that's up to them and should not be my decision to allow or deny them the ability to do it.

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Regarding possible health risks of hormones, I'll take a moment to point out that pickles are carcinogenic. living is a health risk. We seem to have no issue with prescribing everyone adderall, antidepressants, and/or painkillers, so I question the practical validity of that argument. Also, I don't see us doing much to stop things that ostensibly threaten everyone, like microplastics.

If I say "we need to take away everyone's guns because otherwise one guy might make a bad decision and hurt themselves or someone else," some of the same people who are so up in arms against trans people right now would be outraged. But if I say "we need to take away kids' ability to determine their gender identity because otherwise someone might make a mistake" then they'll all just nod and see no contradiction. Both are artificial restrictions that are arguably not addressing the actual issues, which include but are not limited to mental health, education, and the US's general apathy towards people's happiness after they're born (though we seem to care an awful lot about them before they're born).

I guess it means we still affirm in the right of trans kids to take the other way out (with a handgun), instead?

If we want to make more people lonely and/or dead, we've been doing a great job of it.

This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Mar 27 2023, 08:53

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STOP HATING ON transgenders FOR NO REASOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!

Kids didn't ask to be born into the world, I think it's the least we can do to make their experience on this planet they've been forced into less miserable. If for some that means transitioning, that's not any of your business, in my opinion

Slippery slope argument:
[www.cnn.com] https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/07/health/body-...ness/index.html

Regarding possible health risks of hormones, I'll take a moment to point out that pickles are carcinogenic. living is a health risk.

haha r u serius ?
Remove the minimum age to drink, and legalize all drugs. If we are going to let kids take estrogen blockers and permanently damage their bodies, then why not?
The further we breach from a norm, the less combatable we will grow as a whole. You welcome what is slowly deteriorating society, simply for today's and not tomorrow's satisfaction. To be so nearsighted is to disregard longevity.

This post has been edited by AhumanRS: Mar 27 2023, 09:09

I grew up when there was no social support for trans kids at all, and vicious treatment, brainwashing and gaslighting by their parents, teachers, and everyone around them to try to bully them into not being trans was the norm. That is equally wrong. It also didn't work.

And I actually do not recommend surgery, because the surgical options are still too crude.

Pretty much the opposite here, discrimination against LGBT has been declining rapidly for decades. I was involved with an org that had clinical psychologists that helped 18+ individuals gain access to psychological support, hormone therapy and some with surgical options.

Back then, lowering the age against medical and psychological evidence was pushed by far far lefties. Usually the social constructionists. Their balance of welling and welfare must be professionally considered. Affirm at all costs is already showing major problems that were not seen in older individuals that transitioned. These are not surprises but people are acting like they didn't know.... Its horrifying if they really did not know.

The arguments against transitioning children, especially with surgery:
1 Through puberty individuals sense of self is still developing, increase anxiety, neuroticism and developing self awareness of your personality / sexuality etc is normal.

2 Actual trans due to genetic anomalies, females exposed to high androgen levels in womb (increase probability of Lesbian but also masculine traits), and most common fetal developmental as embros start as female but there are also immunology effects that increase the probability of more feminine males (increase probability of being gay, but also increase feminine traits) are not that common. Decades of research based on the view that sexuality is determined by biology puts LG in the range of 4-12% and Trans in the 0.5-2% range.

3. The misdiagnosis of autism is alarming, and very common. The self-misdiagnosis of anxiety disorders and depression in young girls is becoming common. Gay boys have are vanishing as a demographic in some areas against all evidence. 30% of girls suddenly being trans in high school is the same pattern seen with other psychological contagion among this peer group involving eating disorders, anxiety/depression, recently (2022) tourette syndrome. Many of the girls think they are trans because of other mental health issues and usually informal affirmation.

4. The suppression of estrogen is catastrophic for women for their health. Estrogen has protective factors. After 2 years girls are showing neural degeneration, heart issues, bone issues, clotting issues, hardening of arteries and of the people that de-transition by their 20s 20-30% are showing fertility issues.

For boys testosterone suppression affects development of a ton of organs, bones and muscle. The steroid effect of testosterone offsets the genetic disadvantages XY chromosomes eg for immune system and heart.
Depending on duration, our therapies are way more advanced for males, so they can make a full recovery after 6-12 months on PCT or replacement androgens and T, if they were not castrated... Depends on the duration though. After 10 years they may have to go on TRT forever if they de-transition.

5. Artificial hormones do not replicate the actual regulation of hormones and natural levels in the body. The endocrine systems are interlinked and there are complex down stream and upstream interactions of primary, secondary and tertiary hormonal products. There are also complex endocrine modulations and homeostasis /regulatory systems that are ignored when transing the children.


The arguments for:
- Suicide rate: massively misquoted. Its the same as for men, and unfortunately we don't care about men, so its weird that its an issue. (that could be a fairly autistic take).

Well, the reason for that is, because passability dramatically increases as people start hormone replacement earlier.

This is where its more the domain of ethical debate, I can not concretely say anything if I am 100% honest but it is an assessment of risks and benefits. Many of the people pushing for early transition are from the failed social constructionist movement whose experiments all failed horrifyingly by the 2000 with massive ethics violations and suicides. The idea that if you just start young enough then they will definitely become the other gender. This view assumes people are not born the way that they are. The education system also treats all boys as defective girls now, though that is another issue.

"Doctor arbitrarily assigns sex, then society does not affirm, if only we put people on hormones and started surgery earlier they would be accepted by society and society constructs people's sex."

I believe people are born the way that they are whether that is LG or T. Its tricky with trans but we do know the probability of being LG or autistic is many fold higher.

Even if you transition early you can not change people more than the limits of the environmental impact on gene expression. We are also seeing that people transition early with full affirmation are still ending up depressed and anxious. As my position since 2010, we must balance the risks.

Older trans people tend to be more pragmatic, it seems to be people that are 14-25 that mostly hold the belief that they believe they should have transitioned early to be accepted by generally poorly defined cohort and relying on external validation.

Dating as a trans will be more difficult, it is already more limited if you are LG. Basing your identity on external approval is dangerous for your mental health.

Then unfortunately there are the people that fetishize transition that wish other people or themselves to transition earlier for their own reasons, "gender euphoria". I believe they aren't considering the welfare of the children at all. I hope they are a minority but they seem to congregate on social media.

Neo-pronouns seem like a great way to guarantee depression and mental health issues. You are scrambling your internal classification system, relying heavily on heuristic classification which is inaccurate and putting a gigantic amount of your self esteem in external validation. Putting your self esteem and self efficacy all in external validation is well studied for creating issues. Scrambling your classification systems mentally is well established as artificially leading to psychosis/neuroticism and where it occurs involuntarily schizophernia. It is also correlated with general anxiety. So good luck with that. We do have correlative evidence that there is a high correlation between neo-pronouns and mental health issues. We do not know causation yet, but in other areas we do...

People with poorly developed self constructs or that rely on external validation are well evidenced to have issues. Whether that applies to people using neo-pronouns and to what extent I do not know.

That's like the "if we allow gay marriage, people will be wanting to legalize pedophilia/necrophilia/zoophilia next" argument that people were using a decade ago.

California and LA are going still hard on those issues except necro.

Also there are actual biological, non-menopausal, non-child XX women who can't get pregnant. Just a reminder.

Always a woman because they were born a woman... What is the actual argument here? Also lefties want to call women birthing persons, to also define them by that feature.

Side fact: CCP has a database whether you are birth ready as a woman. They did make trans illegal though and certain races... Not sure if authoritarian left or totalitarian right? Maybe they will become the true nazbol, socialism for us but not for you.


edit: Speed run because this post is already automatically a shit post at this length.

"ThINk oF ThE ChiLDreN" is one of my least favorite arguments in almost any circumstance, this one included.

On a topic about transitioning children you do not consider child welfare. On irrelevant topics it is a meme. Many of the trans law are being created with the same fanatic energy as the evangelical Christians, also with moralizing and protesting debate....

To put it in a computing analogy,

You can try to patch Windows into Linux but it will be a mess.

Regarding possible health risks of hormones, I'll take a moment to point out that pickles are carcinogenic.

Barely, like you will increase your risk slightly if you over consume. The salt is a higher risk. You can also mediate your risks by a balance diet or eating pickles that use different pickling agents. It is fairly easy to consider the risks and benefits. Some pickles reduce your risk of some forms of cancer in the gut.

living is a health risk. We seem to have no issue with prescribing everyone adderall, antidepressants, and/or painkillers.

These are also massive problems. Also its big pharma pushing both over prescription and early expensive hormonal therapies. At the moment I'd say over prescription of drugs is a bigger problem than transing kids. Numbers of both are rising, but over prescription has a huge head start. George Floyd's life was ruined by over prescription of painkillers that lead to his life self destructing to the point he OD'd and died whilst being arrested for being the fall guy for using forged currency. He actually had worked with Derrek Chauvin in the past before his injury that lead to becoming addicted to pain killers. Its weird story.

If I say "we need to take away everyone's guns because otherwise one guy might make a bad decision and hurt themselves or someone else," some of the same people who are so up in arms against trans people right now would be outraged.

We took away the majority of guns here because one dude did make a bad decision. For handguns and higher power fire-arms there are loads of background checks, mental health checks and long waiting times. There are strict storage requirements and restrictions on what can be owned. There is a degree of common sense if you have valid uses and weigh up the benefits and risks.

But if I say "we need to take away kids' ability to determine their gender identity because otherwise someone might make a mistake" then they'll all just nod and see no contradiction.

Very young children have no clue about their gender identity. Now once we get to puberty, their gender identity is still developing for males till like 18-25 and females usually by 18-20. We are potentially intervening artificially whilst their gender identity is not developed biologically in the hopes it will help their social gender identity for when they are older.

US's general apathy towards people's happiness after they're born (though we seem to care an awful lot about them before they're born).

All the psychological treatments, and drugs were designed to make people not unhappy in the short term with very little focus on long term happiness. Most of the perspectives on trans affirmation are based on the 80s movement which self destructed catastrophically because their interventions maximized unhappiness. It all just became popular again from 2012 on wards after the horrors faded from recent memory.

I can't see them doing anything different which is the problem... not properly informing people, being overzealous in the positive prescription, leaning too excessively on external validation, pushing through early intervention without information about the risk and with poor support afterwards. The diagnostics have actually gotten worse, like a kid can say something once and that is sufficient in some areas now. The experts are also focused on affirmation and blind to the risks.

Surgeons are coming out that early hormonal intervention screws over the possibility of MTF transition later.

If lefties really cared about abortion rights that had decades to approve legislation, and it was Brandon's arguments for forced medical interventions that broke the camels back. Lefties could have also forced the vote, when they controlled both houses but did not. You get war and banker bail outs instead.

I guess it means we still affirm in the right of trans kids to take the other way out (with a handgun), instead?

If we want to make more people lonely and/or dead, we've been doing a great job of it.

Blind affirmation is not decreasing anxiety and depression, just medical complications... which increase anxiety and depression. Misdiagnosis is also increasing anxiety and depression.

Canada is offering assisted suicide for trans now and they are some of the most progressive for trans rights, supposedly.


TLDR

Transition in your 30-40 large percentage still unhappy.

Transition when you are 18, still a large percent still unhappy

Transition when you are 12, still a large percentage still unhappy

Transition when you are 6-9, still a large percentage still unhappy.

In the 90s the experiment that crashed the movement for a decade... we transitioned them at birth.... outcome.. still unhappy.

Now we are like, maybe if we have 100% positive and constant daily affirmation.... nope still unhappy.

By unhappy I mean clinical anxiety, depression and other issues. We lopped the dicks off at zero and it did not make a difference. Its almost like we are misdiagnosing something. Yes there are trans people, yes they face discrimination, but.... maybe we need to make balanced and reasonable decisions for children.


This post has been edited by EsotericSatire: Mar 27 2023, 11:02

I want to commit suicide all day, every day.

Where's my adulation and public discourse?

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Eso having withdraw symptoms when not given a chance to type a ~1800 word response over optimus prime (not from warframe) or some transformer

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Dragontamer, this cat is literally outperforming you. This cat hits the gym for 3 hours a day.


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This post has been edited by AhumanRS: Mar 27 2023, 21:52

Transition in your 30-40 large percentage still unhappy.

Transition when you are 18, still a large percent still unhappy

Transition when you are 12, still a large percentage still unhappy

Transition when you are 6-9, still a large percentage still unhappy.

In the 90s the experiment that crashed the movement for a decade... we transitioned them at birth.... outcome.. still unhappy.

Now we are like, maybe if we have 100% positive and constant daily affirmation.... nope still unhappy.

I'm still unhappy and I have no desire to transition. Almost like a lot of people are unhappy.
But unhappy doesn't mean "as unhappy as before." There's a difference between just being unhappy and wanting to kill yourself, for instance.

You seem very hung up on the idea that I'm going out of my way to say "look how woke I am." I try not to think in terms like that because I don't see it as constructive to make my agenda trying to stop other people from the pursuit of happiness.

Not everyone wants to get the same things out of life, and I think that's fine.

By unhappy I mean clinical anxiety, depression and other issues. We lopped the dicks off at zero and it did not make a difference. Its almost like we are misdiagnosing something. Yes there are trans people, yes they face discrimination, but.... maybe we need to make balanced and reasonable decisions for children.

Fun fact: There can be multiple factors that all can contribute to someone's psychological state.

Maybe I'll read the rest of the post later, just went to the TL;DR for the moment because I'm currently feeling tired and depressed (for non-gender-related reasons).


This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Mar 28 2023, 02:57

I'm currently feeling tired and depressed (for non-gender-related reasons)

You are unhappy because you won't get steam or Discord and you hate humor

Not everyone wants to get the same things out of life, and I think that's fine.
Fun fact: There can be multiple factors that all can contribute to someone's psychological state.

That is the point, people are being affirmed that its a silver bullet and its not. A decade ago when I was supporting people, I was devastated when in the follow ups there was barely improvement and people deteriorated. They do not even give people follow up support now. I was a young non-alcoholic psychologist back then, that foolishly wanted to help everyone despite warnings by the older jaded professionals. For the veterans they saw being trans as long journey to be supported and hormones and surgery as a potential outcome but not a magic bullet that could actually make people happier.

You seem very hung up on the idea that I'm going out of my way to say "look how woke I am." I try not to think in terms like that because I don't see it as constructive to make my agenda trying to stop other people from the pursuit of happiness.

I do not think anyone currently here is that woke. Some people have contrary opinions but that is fine. Being woke is to disregard everything contrary to the current 'truth' pumped into you and to mindlessly adopt the latest shared opinion without conscious thought. To be woke is to think you know the 'truth'. Its very evangelical in my opinion.

It was kinda overblown. They relied heavily on one testimony of someone suing for compensation in the news reports, and later found quite a few inconsistencies in reports. The real question you are not allowed to ask is where the SF found that prosthetic leg that they were waving around at the after party.

This post has been edited by EsotericSatire: Mar 28 2023, 07:20

That's like the "if we allow gay marriage, people will be wanting to legalize pedophilia/necrophilia/zoophilia next" argument that people were using a decade ago.

This might have not happened but instead it's now acceptable to change gender (almost) freely.

Ah well, there are already so many bad things happening in the world. And now the trans things comes on top.
thx for nothing, god