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Oct 18 2022, 00:56
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(Fr. Radixius @ Oct 17 2022, 21:14)  HRT is being prescribed prematurely on people that absolutely do not have gender dysphoria because it's the flavor of the decade munchausen by proxy thing and doctors/corporations are able to make so much goddamn money by peddling sugar with trace amounts of hormones in it to rubes, reactionaries, and retards who are more likely depressed and not confused about their dick and balls. Not to mention the comorbidity that gender confusion has with autism so they're not only poisoning children with hormones but also taking advantage of the aforementioned LITERALLY mentally retarded people. Plus hormone blockers are intensely dangerous to give to anyone given the side effects and are only made for severe, rare cases because of these side effects. Add to THAT the sociopaths on the internet that get off on controlling other people's lives through any means necessary and dress like women while still presenting themselves 1000% as male and making up bullshit pronouns to obfuscate any accountability when they are caught molesting children and raping women and then sent to WOMEN'S prisons to rape even MORE women. And then you're not even taking into account that there's no standardized operation for gender reassignment, every procedure is an experiment and can cause even more problems, which, surprise, cutting a goddamn wound into your grundle and then having to FORCE IT OPEN REGULARLY because it tries to heal itself and grows hair and fills with mucous and needs to be redone on the regular because it WILL close itself eventually. What reasons do we have to treat THESE trannies regularly? Why are they not ousted from the movement?
There has clearly been a rubicon crossing moment and we are past it, so seriously, what part of any of this sounds safe, legal, and fine for children to engage in? I'd rather self-own than pay the medical community millions of dollars to stay alive in a broken husk of a body.
Most of these are solid points about a specific variety of trans person. There are lots of people who don't match this description as well, though. And not every trans girl has her dick cut off. Lots don't. I think the ones you mention might not be ousted because 1) they will make the biggest harrumph out of it they possibly can and 2) who's to say that a specific person's expression of identity is valid or not? I agree with you on a fair number of those points, but that's just my suggested answer for that last question. I think it would be great if people would stop giving the drama queens a platform, so we could just accept people without having to question their validity. Also, none of what I have said in my above post is specifically concerning trans children. I think those problems are another can of worms that I don't have good answers for. For the record, I was speaking at length with an adult trans woman about her experiences in school last night. I won't go into any specifics because I value her friendship and don't want to betray her trust, but suffice it to say that I believe her and that discussion has directly colored my thoughts on this. I think we should be nice to people by default, and only behave otherwise on a person-by-person basis. Instead of typecasting entire groups and just saying "Oh, but THEY'RE the good ones" about a few individuals from that group. Blacklist; don't whitelist. I know those aren't considered to be "PeeCee" terms anymore; I do not care. This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Oct 18 2022, 01:27
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Oct 18 2022, 01:41
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Msgr. Radixius
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Oct 17 2022, 17:56)  I think we should be nice to people by default
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Oct 18 2022, 03:29
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EsotericSatire
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It will actually be raising everyone's insurance premiums in the US, they make over 100k on each person they put through the blender. Sweden was the most progressive in terms of even assisting children to transition even if parents objected, and threatening parents with jail or losing custody. The problem after mass treatment of children was the lawsuits started slamming hospitals, health providers and the government for the massive amount of complications and long term health side effects. The Swedish review has lead to going back to 2010 standards and abandoning and rejecting all the latest fads from the World Transgender Health lobby group. Summary: Rigorous analysis of evidence asserted that the risks of hormonal treatment far outweigh the benefits for most gender-dysphoric youths. Psychological and psychiatric care provides better outcomes. QUOTE(Fr. Radixius @ Oct 17 2022, 11:14)  Not to mention the comorbidity that gender confusion has with autism so they're not only poisoning children with hormones but also taking advantage of the aforementioned LITERALLY mentally retarded people.
Damn, I did not think it was that bad, but there was huge number of children that also had a diagnosis of Austism spectrum disorder, which is known to be highly correlated with lacking adherence to gender norms. So Sweden is going to diagnose for Autism first now.... Doesn't that mean there was massive medical malpractice? yikes. Lastly they will restrict puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones and require a longer term DSM diagnosis of gender dysphoria by a registered clinical psychologist (as opposed to school councilors, teachers and general health practitioners). [ segm.org] https://segm.org/segm-summary-sweden-priori...dysphoric-youth
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Oct 18 2022, 04:36
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Msgr. Radixius
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To note, I do not hate trannies, I just severely dislike lunatics that force people to live according to their psychosis and unfortunately the venn diagram for MtF trannies and psychopaths is a fucking circle
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Oct 18 2022, 05:30
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QUOTE(Fr. Radixius @ Oct 17 2022, 21:36)  To note, I do not hate trannies, You would change your mind hastily if I said I was trans.
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Oct 18 2022, 05:40
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(Fr. Radixius @ Oct 18 2022, 02:36)  To note, I do not hate trannies, I just severely dislike lunatics that force people to live according to their psychosis and unfortunately the venn diagram for MtF trannies and psychopaths is a fucking circle IDK if I'd ascribe to that statement. I truly don't know why I've become acquainted with so many trans girls (actually, I probably do: CS and IT seem to have a statistically significant proportion of trans women), but I can guarantee you the ones I've met haven't been psychopaths... and I do know what a psychopath looks like, having made the mistake of inviting a (cis) girl over once who turned out to be one. I'm glad I've moved since then. To be honest the MtF's and the one FtM that I know are all nice people, with a single exception who is still nice enough but a little annoying to be around in the same ways a lot of cishet people can be annoying to be around. Like, the 'person who asks for help with homework so often that they're basically asking me to do their homework for them' kind of annoying. Her aside, I've yet to have too bad of experiences with them. And that wasn't on account of being trans, it was just a more general human thing. And I honestly think the one who was asking me to do homework was really just socially unaware of how she was coming off in the same way a lot of people on the autism spectrum (like me) can be sometimes. QUOTE(AhumanRS @ Oct 18 2022, 03:30)  You would change your mind hastily if I said I was trans. Well, it wouldn't be because you were trans, it'd be because you were you. I don't dislike Obama for being black, I dislike him for going after Edward Snowden and valuing mass surveillance over personal freedoms. Among other things. This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Oct 18 2022, 05:57
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Oct 18 2022, 07:02
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AhumanRS
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Oct 17 2022, 22:40)  Well, it wouldn't be because you were trans, it'd be because you were you. You are just jealous because you are a paranoid schizophrenic and I am happy getting my data harvested. You are shackled by your fear into a miserable life while I live every day in a smile through my ignorance.
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Oct 18 2022, 08:15
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(AhumanRS @ Oct 18 2022, 05:02)  You are shackled by your fear into a miserable life while I live every day in a smile through my ignorance. He who does not move does not notice his chains. Yep.
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Oct 18 2022, 11:18
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Mags_
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QUOTE(Fr. Radixius @ Oct 18 2022, 13:36)  To note, I do not hate trannies, I just severely dislike lunatics that force people to live according to their psychosis and unfortunately the venn diagram for MtF trannies and psychopaths is a fucking circle
This. I really don't care what people want to be as long as they don't inflict their bullshit on me.
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Oct 18 2022, 14:55
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Msgr. Radixius
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Oct 17 2022, 22:40)  Well, it wouldn't be because you were trans, it'd be because you were you.
Based.
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Oct 18 2022, 15:23
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Oct 18 2022, 15:33
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Pillowgirl
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Arguing with a coomer(millennial) is like arguing with a boomer, same shit different flavor.
Zoomers are at least half based but half chinese owned.
This post has been edited by Pillowgirl: Oct 18 2022, 15:35
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Oct 18 2022, 17:49
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Msgr. Radixius
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You say you hate Jews, yet you participate in Jewish society.
Curious.
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Oct 18 2022, 18:03
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Oct 18 2022, 13:33)  Arguing with a coomer(millennial) is like arguing with a boomer, same shit different flavor. Zoomers are at least half based but half chinese owned. Only half chinese owned? This is why I support 128th trimester abortion. [ i.imgur.com] (IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/6tP27esg.jpg) This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Oct 18 2022, 19:31
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Oct 18 2022, 22:10
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AhumanRS
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Oct 18 2022, 11:03)  This is why I support 128th trimester abortion. God, I am so getting aborted
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Oct 18 2022, 22:34
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Oct 18 2022, 06:03)  Only half chinese owned?
Half are addicted to tiktok which is destroying their brains, so the other half fed up having to co-exist with zombies. The problem is that both halves are being pushed towards the political fringes. QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Oct 18 2022, 06:03)  This is why I support 128th trimester abortion. [ i.imgur.com] Do they not know that if they just have no claims for 5 years, their premium will star going down or they can switch provider and it will be lower? At some stage a self insurance annuity may be better but not if you keep having accidents like a re re.
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Oct 19 2022, 08:05
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weegeeweegeeweegee
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Oct 18 2022, 21:33)  Arguing with a coomer(millennial) is like arguing with a boomer, same shit different flavor. Zoomers are at least half based but half chinese owned.
Well not all non-boomers, you probably didn't realize I wasn't one as I come across as ahead of my peers.
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Oct 19 2022, 12:35
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(weegeeweegeeweegee @ Oct 18 2022, 20:05)  Well not all non-boomers, you probably didn't realize I wasn't one as I come across as ahead of my peers.
I thought you were gen beta.
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Oct 19 2022, 15:23
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Msgr. Radixius
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Oct 19 2022, 05:35)  I thought you were gen beta.
Definitely a beta for sure.
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