[X] My Assistant

Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]

Thank you, sir. May I have another?

Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]

Thank you, sir. May I have another?

Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]

Thank you, sir. May I have another?

...

You have 92 Tokens of Healing.
You have 0 tokens of blood.

D: Are you at all considering adjusting the blood rates so we might use this ring to try to come up with new boss strategies?

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Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]

Thank you, sir. May I have another? x93



This post has been edited by marcho: Nov 1 2009, 02:49

I just tried the Item World for the first time, and I must say that I am very, very pleased with it. At very least it gives you a lot more EXP then Grindfest, though you get no credits, which is fine.

Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]

Thank you, sir. May I have another?

I know the feeling (remember I got 2 at once). Especially since most people are gonna die the first couple of times they battle legendaries since the change. Given I almost beat real life on hard prior to the update and barely won against him on normal after it, and I had a bunch of luck (spirit attack once out of 300 turns and missed). 79 healing tokens, 0 blood. I really wish we could sell them, so that the lower levels could use our healing tokens and we could use their blood tokens.

This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Nov 1 2009, 03:15

The amount of Spirit consumed when Spark of Life is triggered is too disproportionate to the number of times Absorb fails to activate now that everyone is forced to abandon Silence when facing Legendaries. I decided to give End of Days another shot since Absorb seemed to be working well in the other arenas, yet Absorb + Blind has already failed to stop legendary magic /spirit from 1-hitting me 3 times in barely more than a round. That of course makes the challenge impossible without some sort of broken stun proc club, i.e. 50% for 10 turns. Is there any way you can reduce the amount of Spirit consumed when Spark is activated, or possibly make Absorb activate 100% of time when the attack surpasses a certain amount of damage?

Or maybe make spirit attacks not 1 shot you? The whole reason you pretty much had to use silence was that given how long it takes to kill a legendary, despite your best efforts to make it as unlikely as possible something was eventually going to get through. And even at full health, that something was going to kill you.

I can take spirit attacks from boss creatures, they deal about half my health. That's manageable. You have to play it safe, and you cant let that happen often, and it hurts like a bitch, but its manageable. Legendaries should be doing ~ half of hito's health. It shouldn't be a full to dead 1 shot kill. Please?

Oh and let us trade health tokens for blood tokens at the shrine.... ?

This post has been edited by marcho: Nov 1 2009, 03:22

@Tenboro: I know one-handed prof increases the effects of bleed wound, but what about Penetrated Armor? I have a 16% chance for 1 turn, 100 points of prof later it still is 16% chance for 1 turn. Does PA get any bonus from one-hand prof?

Nope. The only proc effected by prof is bleed, stun and PA are not.

Or maybe make spirit attacks not 1 shot you? The whole reason you pretty much had to use silence was that given how long it takes to kill a legendary, despite your best efforts to make it as unlikely as possible something was eventually going to get through. And even at full health, that something was going to kill you.

I can take spirit attacks from boss creatures, they deal about half my health. That's manageable. You have to play it safe, and you cant let that happen often, and it hurts like a bitch, but its manageable. Legendaries should be doing ~ half of hito's health. It shouldn't be a full to dead 1 shot kill. Please?

I don't care if their strength was reduced, they still hit for way too much.

This is from the same round, about 20 turns apart. I had Spark, Absorb and Blind active, plus others that wouldn't have an effect on this.

Time Quake hits you for 12251 dark damage

Your Spark of Life fails due to insufficient Spirit.
Time Quake crits you for 18533 dark damage.

BTW, I had 165 Spirit Points remaining, and that was an insufficient amount. The amount of spirit drained seems to be increasing at a rate that only allows 6-7 sparks to be used, despite what your spirit point total may actually be. I know for a fact that it used to only drain around 110 points, just a few weeks ago. Using Silence instead of Weaken fails even harder since then I get crit for 900 damage multiple turns in a row, and that is with pretty good physical, crushing, piercing, and slashing mitigations.

Also, the elemental spike supportive spells are just gimmicks as I said earlier, because Ryouko was still hitting me for 5000 cold damage even with frost spikes active. No amount of mitigation on armors will stop this much damage, give the multiplicative calculations, and even if I did switch to spirit-ward armors, they would still hit for 4-5k apiece and leave me open to much higher amounts of physical damage.

There's really only one more possibility without the broken stun procs, and that is bound to fail as well since Shadow Veil has sucked hard every time I've ever used it.

I was saying he should reduce legendary spirit damage to ~ 50-60% of your hp before mit like he did the bosses. That'd make spark fire much less often if you were playing it safe.

Basically, no 1 hit KO attacks on anything please was the gist I was going for.

Love this update. Can get so much further now in grindfest, item world is amusing, and can actually spam attack spells instead of heavily conserve magic.

Of course just a lowbie here, so higher levels might not share my ardour (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I don't care if their strength was reduced, they still hit for way too much.

This is from the same round, about 20 turns apart. I had Spark, Absorb and Blind active, plus others that wouldn't have an effect on this.

Time Quake hits you for 12251 dark damage

Your Spark of Life fails due to insufficient Spirit.
Time Quake crits you for 18533 dark damage.

BTW, I had 165 Spirit Points remaining, and that was an insufficient amount. The amount of spirit drained seems to be increasing at a rate that only allows 6-7 sparks to be used, despite what your spirit point total may actually be. I know for a fact that it used to only drain around 110 points, just a few weeks ago. Using Silence instead of Weaken fails even harder since then I get crit for 900 damage multiple turns in a row, and that is with pretty good physical, crushing, piercing, and slashing mitigations.

Also, the elemental spike supportive spells are just gimmicks as I said earlier, because Ryouko was still hitting me for 5000 cold damage even with frost spikes active. No amount of mitigation on armors will stop this much damage, give the multiplicative calculations, and even if I did switch to spirit-ward armors, they would still hit for 4-5k apiece and leave me open to much higher amounts of physical damage.

There's really only one more possibility without the broken stun procs, and that is bound to fail as well since Shadow Veil has sucked hard every time I've ever used it.

I could win with my stun club, but it would take forever since it's not ethereal; I could poison + occasional offhand him to death, but it would take several thousand turns without a consistent PA proc :\

Yeah, that's a combination of HTML entity escaping and the need to not do that when it outputs it in that way. The real problem is that this is the first time the system has actually needed to output something user-submitted using the font engine, so it still has some rough edges.

Once you've found a fix, if you could apply it to the credit and karma logs too that would be great, thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thanks Noneyabusiness.

This post has been edited by Riot-chan: Nov 1 2009, 08:03

OK, I didn't see this in the notes...but I'm tired and possibly retarded.

I went into Test of Faith and promptly lost because I don't have an spells outside of Magic Missile. I checked my ability tree and yup, all my spells have points in them. But I went to settings and it won't let me hotkey anything outside of Magic Missile.

Am I missing something really really obvious? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Thanks.

Tenboro gave us a free reset since the magic values changed. You need to redo you abilities.

is there an increase in the monsters "evade" stats?

The amount of Spirit consumed when Spark of Life is triggered is too disproportionate to the number of times Absorb fails to activate now that everyone is forced to abandon Silence when facing Legendaries.

Maybe you should bring some spirit restoratives?

is there an increase in the monsters "evade" stats?

As usual, I always secretly increase monster evade and resist chances with every patch. Or I would, if it wasn't for the fact that they'd have 100% evade/resist by now.

As usual, I always secretly increase monster evade and resist chances with every patch. Or I would, if it wasn't for the fact that they'd have 100% evade/resist by now.

So that's why everything evades my attacks! I'll get you someday! *waggles fist*

Being able to intentionally trigger Ether Theft got me to 10 rounds easily without using items, usually topping out around 20. I'm lucky to get to round 5 or so now that everything costs mana.

Getting CM to trigger gives, at best, 2 spells for the price of 1.5 rather than 2-for-1 like we could get before. Ether Theft is crazy hard to activate..

For hourlies and arenas, I'm getting smacked around a lot more, primarily because it takes much more time to kill anything. Given that mage is a weak defensive type, this makes life tougher.

Yes ether theft is crazy hard now but it also gives around 2,5X more mana now which is just enough to cast around 6 AoE spells or 1 Cure [2 mp missing for 2] with ether theft which have duration 2

I haven't tried the arena yet, but my old strategy for going through Grindfest is pretty much dead now, since I used a strategy that basically relied on Ether Theft keeping my MP high throughout the whole thing. I guess I should see if I can fare any better with a different build. I think this new version of the HentaiVerse was meant to make people more likely to try a mage build, but for me it's stopping me from using the mage build for now. Ah well. I do appreciate the other changes, though.

I have like mage build lvl 33
Str, Dex 10 +1
Agi 20 +1
End 36 +1
Int,Wis 35 +4,+5

And it works quite well I have plenty of MP to use now given reduced costs I could kill small army.
Wearing mixed armor so my interference is kinda low while getting nice amount of rezistance/mitigate/evade from it. And it works really well. And now with this mage friendly changes I am looking for increasing mage wise stats even more [1st goal for now is at least 1 MP regen per round (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)]

So in my opinion [not humble] this update helped me a hell lot

This post has been edited by pbVeteran: Nov 1 2009, 15:15

This totally rocks. I knew that being a mage would have been worthy, sooner or later.

BTW this is really a huge update.

to be continued