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with 6 different styles, yep. don't think it's worth the expense though.

I think he was implying by using the infusion corresponding to the buffed element.
Which is probably a fine tactic.

This post has been edited by Sapo84: Aug 24 2017, 19:37

How much raw damage on a weapon would be needed to outdamage an Ethereal in most cases?

How much raw damage on a weapon would be needed to outdamage an Ethereal in most cases?

Why would you want to outdamage it, though?

You can just hollowforge any non-ethereal weapon to start dealing void damage. Problem solved.

I think he was implying by using the infusion corresponding to the buffed element.
Which is probably a fine tactic.

erm... what advantage would a mage gain from infusion which aren't sync-ed with his element? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

erm... what advantage would a mage gain from infusion which aren't sync-ed with his element? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

No advantage. I was talking about melee, just theoretical, as I am not playing melee myself. Just trying to help melee players to optimize. Infusions will be useful for melees

No advantage. I was talking about melee, just theoretical, as I am not playing melee myself. Just trying to help melee players to optimize. Infusions will be useful for melees

ah ok. my bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Why would you want to outdamage it, though?

You can just hollowforge any non-ethereal weapon to start dealing void damage. Problem solved.

Level 10 potency is a pain in the ass to get. I wouldn't want to do it unless I wouldn't be replacing my weapon for a long time or soulfused it.

Is there ever a point where TT&T RoB is ever worth doing (other than the first time for credits)?

Is there ever a point where TT&T RoB is ever worth doing (other than the first time for credits)?

it should have a decent clear bonus tier if you do it at PF...

Is there ever a point where TT&T RoB is ever worth doing (other than the first time for credits)?

You mean without a good flow of bloodtokens aka at least tokenizer II? I doubt it.

When would be a good time to start giving damage to my waki? (For my niten and DW) My katana has already damage lvl 30

This post has been edited by lololo16: Aug 24 2017, 22:52

When would be a good time to start giving damage to my waki? (For my niten and DW) My katana has already damage lvl 30

depends on potencies, qualities, rolls... assuming you have a decent Leg Katana you can still afford 5-6 levels, if your waki is a non-slaughter peerless. even more, if your waki isn't

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Aug 24 2017, 23:02

depends on potencies, qualities, rolls... assuming you have a decent Leg Katana you can still afford 5-6 levels, if your waki is a peerless. even more, if your waki isn't

I would say this depends most of all on the credits you can spend. If you can afford the money, then it is the right time.

depends on potencies, qualities, rolls... assuming you have a decent Leg Katana you can still afford 5-6 levels, if your waki is a non-slaughter peerless. even more, if your waki isn't

Then maybe until lvl 50?
the katana has 83% ADB OP5 B4 and the waki 88% ADB (the potencies will be F4/5 and some OP and SS)

I would say this depends most of all on the credits you can spend. If you can afford the money, then it is the right time.

I like this ^_^

I would say this depends most of all on the credits you can spend. If you can afford the money, then it is the right time.

well, i assumed you want to maximize your ADB per upgrade. first step is to forge everything to lv5, then raising the mainhand and at a certain point you can surely start sinking something into offhand. for a niten set, we're speaking about lv 30~40 on mainhand (depending on rolls, as i said). probably around lv 15~25 for a rapier/waki combo. on the other hand, he can reach lv50 before starting to think about sinking bindings into (power) armors.

Then maybe until lvl 50?
the katana has 83% ADB OP5 B4 and the waki 88% ADB (the potencies will be F4/5 and some OP and SS)

similar to mine. you may throw a binding or two now, but tbh i didn't factor the 20% ADB reduction on offhand since i don't know how it's calculated exactly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

most logical choice would be to add 0.8 * waki_ADB to total ADB pool, but who knows? if that's the case then yep, we're around lv50 or so.

similar to mine. you may throw a binding or two now, but tbh i didn't factor the 20% ADB reduction on offhand since i don't know how it's calculated exactly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

most logical choice would be to add 0.8 * waki_ADB to total ADB pool, but who knows? if that's the case then yep, we're around lv50 or so.

Great. I'll keep that in mind.

This post has been edited by lololo16: Aug 25 2017, 01:09

How important is crit damage when you're not at 50%+ crit chance? I guess heartseeker gives some crit chance too but wouldn't it be better to IW for Butcher over Fatality in general? When you're not at 50%.

This post has been edited by Drksrpnt: Aug 24 2017, 23:45

How important is crit damage when you're not at 50%+ crit chance? I guess heartseeker gives some crit chance too but wouldn't it be better to IW for Butcher over Fatality in general? When you're not at 50%.

heartseeker gives you a +10% Crit chance (guess you can safely multiply your crit by 1.1), +25% ADB and adds a +15% Crit damage when ability is maxed. not sure if it's a simple +15 or a *1.15, but still... same goes for ADB bonus

what's better between fatality and butcher is debated every now and then. personally i'd go for Fatality if possible because Crit Damage cannot be forged (and considering that spirit stance doubles your damage and Heartseeker gives another nice boost, i don't think a +2% ADB on a single item would make a big difference).



but just to be safe, go for fatality on offhand and a combo of butcher and fatality on mainhand (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

heartseeker gives you a +10% Crit chance (guess you can safely multiply your crit by 1.1)

Heresy! He should use the correct formula (100 - current crit chance) * 0.1 + current crit chance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Heresy! He should use the correct formula (100 - current crit chance) * 0.1 + current crit chance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

ah, yes, yes. that's what happens when you're doing half a dozen things at once.

btw, i'm curious to know what may be the error for average values (40~60) of crit chance...


[edit]: two straight lines that intersect themselves at 50%. the spread ratio is 1% every 5 Crit points. could've been worse...

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Aug 25 2017, 00:33