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post Aug 16 2017, 17:37
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QUOTE(friggo @ Aug 16 2017, 08:40) *

elemental mages can go full phase?

No. The max prof factor from naked prof is .32, the target is .68
The optimal prof gear slot just changed.
If I did my math right L-min shoes + L-min Willow staff forged to 5 will get you .68

This is a huge buff, but taking full advantage of it will be expensive.
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post Aug 16 2017, 17:59
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Aug 16 2017, 17:37) *

No. The max prof factor from naked prof is .32, the target is .68
The optimal prof gear slot just changed.
If I did my math right L-min shoes + L-min Willow staff forged to 5 will get you .68

This is a huge buff, but taking full advantage of it will be expensive.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Prices of charged shoes of elementalist will skyrocket!! Both Willow-wielders and Redwood-rockers are going to go for shoes now! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


...what am I laughing about... I don't have shoes... I wear them gloves! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Aug 16 2017, 18:13
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QUOTE(goldenshower @ Aug 15 2017, 23:12) *

Bought this at bazaar.

Magnificent Fiery Rapier of Slaughter, https://hentaiverse.org/equip/125202619/39a92638c7

Is it worth to soulfuse it?
I want Legendary but almost everything I found at WTS and bazaar is high level.


Yes. I used a similar rapier into the later 300s. Be sure to get it IW10'd. If you can't do it, get a friend to.

Or maybe even SidZBear..

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post Aug 16 2017, 18:14
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QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 16 2017, 18:13) *

If you can't do it, get a friend to.

Or maybe even SidZBear..

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it's untradeable...
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post Aug 16 2017, 19:05
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Aug 16 2017, 17:37) *

This is a huge buff, but taking full advantage of it will be expensive.

Why expensive? It just requires a fuckton of grinding for level 500 players and it's unreachable for most of the pre-500 players.
Cold and fire mages are basically out of meta forever since only willow makes sense.
But elec and wind are not in a good spot either.
Dark willow + cap can already exceed 0.8 prof factor when fully forged.
So for endgame dark imperil > elec/wind imperil.

Without Imperil holy can super-easily reach 1.0 prof with shoes + gloves and, on friday and sunday with robe only, making it even stronger (Doracra was getting very good PFUDORFest result with 0.85, with 0.86 I guess Holy will be easily the strongest style even there).
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post Aug 16 2017, 19:10
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QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 16 2017, 23:13) *

Yes. I used a similar rapier into the later 300s. Be sure to get it IW10'd. If you can't do it, get a friend to.

Or maybe even SidZBear..

D-


Yes will do.
My current 1H equipment able to survive IWTBH IW. Still not sure for arena with 70+ round.
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post Aug 16 2017, 20:08
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Aug 16 2017, 19:05) *

Why expensive? It just requires a fuckton of grinding for level 500 players and it's unreachable for most of the pre-500 players.
Cold and fire mages are basically out of meta forever since only willow makes sense.
But elec and wind are not in a good spot either.
Dark willow + cap can already exceed 0.8 prof factor when fully forged.
So for endgame dark imperil > elec/wind imperil.

Without Imperil holy can super-easily reach 1.0 prof with shoes + gloves and, on friday and sunday with robe only, making it even stronger (Doracra was getting very good PFUDORFest result with 0.85, with 0.86 I guess Holy will be easily the strongest style even there).



In practice, it's not that bad: it takes forever to get to +20% proficiency. You can't choose the prof slot based on final proficiency. You will be playing for years with sub-optimal build.

And Redwood Cool/Fire mage has also been buffed, make no mistake. Still seriously good builds.

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post Aug 16 2017, 20:10
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now, let's hope in a melee boost in the next patch...
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post Aug 16 2017, 20:19
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 16 2017, 10:20) *

Since it comes from bazaar, he cannot resell it even now. Check that big red untradeable thing on the top right.

Soulfuse it.


Ah yeah, forgot that. Shucks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Melee buff desired: boost the damn domino strike. Like... maybe a bit of OC per target hit?

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post Aug 16 2017, 21:06
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Aug 16 2017, 14:19) *

Melee buff desired: boost the damn domino strike. Like... maybe a bit of OC per target hit?


Melee buff desired: Make every bit of accuracy past 200 for DW add to a chance of a third hit. Also make increasing offhand accuracy past 50% actually useful.
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post Aug 16 2017, 21:29
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Is monsterlab Even profitable.
As mine is a credit and item sink (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Aug 16 2017, 21:34
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QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 16 2017, 09:13) *

Yes. I used a similar rapier into the later 300s. Be sure to get it IW10'd. If you can't do it, get a friend to.

Or maybe even SidZBear..

D-



XD

Work has me super busy right now though D:

I've barely had time to play, what with clocking close to 160hrs of work since the first of the month, and another 80 already on my schedule through the end of next week... I'm on a job site as we speak, with only 3 hrs of sleep in the last 60.

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post Aug 16 2017, 21:37
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Aug 16 2017, 22:29) *

Is monsterlab Even profitable.
As mine is a credit and item sink (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


Well, the monster lab is only profitable if you don't spend crystals on upgrading the monsters. Basically, get them to PL 25 and only feed them crystals to bump their morale when it gets low.

If you start pumping dozens of crystal packs into each monster, it'll probably take you years to break even (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Aug 16 2017, 21:57
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QUOTE(friggo @ Aug 16 2017, 12:37) *

Well, the monster lab is only profitable if you don't spend crystals on upgrading the monsters. Basically, get them to PL 25 and only feed them crystals to bump their morale when it gets low.

If you start pumping dozens of crystal packs into each monster, it'll probably take you years to break even (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



Something something completionist something something
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post Aug 16 2017, 22:34
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I've always had a garbage fire mage build (Started electric but sapo convinced me Fire was cheaper).

For some time I've been on step 1 of this program:

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice_...Getting_Started

and doing it 1H as it proved to be much safer.

but my profs are rising by leaps and bounds.

How high does my prof have to be to start thinking about stage 2?

I think my elemental just exceeded 200..

Mu double d y.
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post Aug 16 2017, 22:36
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QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 16 2017, 22:34) *

I've always had a garbage fire mage build (Started electric but sapo convinced me Fire was cheaper).

For some time I've been on step 1 of this program:

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice_...Getting_Started

and doing it 1H as it proved to be much safer.

but my profs are rising by leaps and bounds.

How high does my prof have to be to start thinking about stage 2?

I think my elemental just exceeded 200..

Mu double d y.


Good question, the prof increase has changed radically today. Perhaps you should now just start playing full mage to build up the proficiency. And train some Assimilator.
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post Aug 16 2017, 22:41
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Equipment ranges help please.

I'm trying to work out what % BLK this shield is: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9e751b2587

From the wiki: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges#Force
BLK range for leg is 35.64 (min/0%) and 38.52 (max/100%)
(38.52-35.64)/100 = 1% = 0.0288

From the wiki: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Level_Scaling
Scaled Stat = (1 + level / level_factor) * base_stat
Block level factor = 2000

Basic maths: Base_stat = scaled_star/(1+level/level_factor)
Substitute the formula: Base_stat = 44.95/((1+414)/2000) = 216.6265 = 6284% BLK

Clearly this is wrong though. Help please?
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post Aug 16 2017, 22:48
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QUOTE(The Original Zeo @ Aug 16 2017, 22:41) *

Equipment ranges help please.

I'm trying to work out what % BLK this shield is: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9e751b2587

From the wiki: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges#Force
BLK range for leg is 35.64 (min/0%) and 38.52 (max/100%)
(38.52-35.64)/100 = 1% = 0.0288

From the wiki: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Level_Scaling
Scaled Stat = (1 + level / level_factor) * base_stat
Block level factor = 2000

Basic maths: Base_stat = scaled_star/(1+level/level_factor)
Substitute the formula: Base_stat = 44.95/((1+414)/2000) = 216.6265 = 6284% BLK

Clearly this is wrong though. Help please?

i cannot really understand where you put the first one from and why you used the other two.

however, (base) L range is 35.64 ~ 38.52.

your shield has 37.24 (base) block. it's roughly halfway, so i'd expect somewhere in the 50% range.

now, let's do (your_roll - Lmin)/(Lmax - Lmin)*100 = 55.5%

if we want to be more technical, it's a mere 1st degree proportion.
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post Aug 16 2017, 22:53
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Aug 16 2017, 20:08) *

And Redwood Cool/Fire mage has also been buffed, make no mistake. Still seriously good builds.

Redwood mages could already get to 0.69 with shoes (peerless equips), increasing base prof has no benefit unfortunately.

The problem is not if redwood is better or not, but the fact that willow has been buffed a lot more.

And with full assimilator training + exp perks I doubt the top players will need much time to grind at least ~20 prof levels, which are already enough to justify a lower slot.
It's basically a level cap increase but useful only for mages and even then only for some styles (which were already good before).
I don't think it's well balanced at all.
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post Aug 16 2017, 22:58
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Aug 16 2017, 22:53) *

Redwood mages could already get to 0.69 with shoes (peerless equips), increasing base prof has no benefit unfortunately.

The problem is not if redwood is better or not, but the fact that willow has been buffed a lot more.

And with full assimilator training + exp perks I doubt the top players will need much time to grind at least ~20 prof levels, which are already enough to justify a lower slot.
It's basically a level cap increase but useful only for mages and even then only for some styles (which were already good before).
I don't think it's well balanced at all.


I fully agree. It doesn't nerf good styles, but it magnifies the difference beween the styles. The better the style already was, the more that style has improved! This is not desirable, I'd say.

Redwood has been improved too: 20 levels of staff proficiency means slightly more damage. And more deprecating prof means slighly higher hit-chance for imperil.

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