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Jul 19 2017, 14:17
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(TheTrooper @ Jul 19 2017, 13:02)  **long post omitted**
Heavy DW is a very weird combination which leaves you standing there as a punch bag for monsters, and with your negligible defense to boot. DW with 0% evade is suicidal. As Uncle Stu already said, either DW + Light for better evade or 1H + Heavy for better defense. You might want to stay with DW Light a bit as it seems to give you more survivability than 1H Heavy at low levels. If possible, go for main hand rapier slaughter and off hand nimble wakizashi. Stock your blood token so that you can spam Flying Spaghetti Monster in the future.
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Jul 19 2017, 14:27
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TheTrooper
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 19 2017, 14:16)  Wowowow. WHAT is that very old equipment? I mean, Fine equipment isn't even droppable since a while now. Where have you got it? Bought from the Bazaar?
Oh? Everything I have is Average, Fair, Fine, Superior, the Axe is my first Exquisite. Maybe I just haven't played in a long while, weird. But yeah I only use dropped stuff, I will look into player shops though. QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 19 2017, 14:16)  That being said, just forget about Power Armor until you have a full Superior Power set that can allow you tu survive. Forget about higher difficulties for now too, that's just not worth it anyway. Do everything in Normal/Hard, and wait till you're lvl200-250 before trying anything higher.
I do seem to be getting XP way more faster on higher difficulties though (and it takes less time), should I be aiming at credits or XP? QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 19 2017, 14:16)  As you may have noticed, it's taking you more and more rounds and monsters at once to clear an arena. Brace yourself against the monster power ramp up aswell: those which you've fought against until now are very easy to beat, but they're going to get their second MP attack and their spirit attack soon and they will also have much higher stats.
In terms of equipment, I'd say that you should already be thinking about getting a full Superior+ set, along with prefixed weapons. I won't deny the fact that they're not easy things to find though, at your level. Check the players shops for level unassigned weapons, that's basically your only hope if you don't want to rely on your drops.
Yeah some have been destroying me with spirit attacks, taking out my max HP in one hit. I will look for player shops, thanks! QUOTE(as013 @ Jul 19 2017, 14:17)  Heavy DW is a very weird combination which leaves you standing there as a punch bag for monsters, and with your negligible defense to boot. DW with 0% evade is suicidal. As Uncle Stu already said, either DW + Light for better evade or 1H + Heavy for better defense. You might want to stay with DW Light a bit as it seems to give you more survivability than 1H Heavy at low levels. If possible, go for main hand rapier slaughter and off hand nimble wakizashi. Stock your blood token so that you can spam Flying Spaghetti Monster in the future.
QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 19 2017, 13:16)  You should use a of Nimble Off-Hand weapon. Also i suggest to have allways a bit more DEX than STR.
BTW i dont think DW heavy is the best decision. Ether switch to 1H and stay with heavy, or change to light armor.
Yeah I will be going with Light + DW, thanks all! This post has been edited by TheTrooper: Jul 19 2017, 14:30
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Jul 19 2017, 14:39
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zcb535359
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Hello, guys. I have some problem to deal with my weapon. several days ago i got this one from freeshop Magnificent Ethereal Axe of Slaughter. i think its prefix and suffix are good, but most stats are low according to Equipment Ranges table on Wiki.so i didn't soulfuse when i got it. but now i am nearly 30 lv higher, and i still can't find a better one to replace it yet. what i have is Magnificent Shocking Rapier of Balance. i don't like it for its suffix. what should i do now? does the axe worth soulfuse? or i should continue using it or the rapier until a better one drop?thanks in advance.
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Jul 19 2017, 14:46
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(zcb535359 @ Jul 19 2017, 14:39)  Hello, guys. I have some problem to deal with my weapon. several days ago i got this one from freeshop Magnificent Ethereal Axe of Slaughter. i think its prefix and suffix are good, but most stats are low according to Equipment Ranges table on Wiki.so i didn't soulfuse when i got it. but now i am nearly 30 lv higher, and i still can't find a better one to replace it yet. what i have is Magnificent Shocking Rapier of Balance. i don't like it for its suffix. what should i do now? does the axe worth soulfuse? or i should continue using it or the rapier until a better one drop?thanks in advance. Rapier is better
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Jul 19 2017, 15:19
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zcb535359
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jul 19 2017, 20:46)  Rapier is better
can you tell me why rapier is better?Penetrated Armor?i think void damage is better since procs has only 0.2 chance to happen. edit: i have done comparison on hell IW. i need one spirit draught to keep spirit stance on when using rapier, while axe needn't. both without Sol or SS.i think this means i have to hit more times when using rapier. edit2: another question: need i change Spike Shield from Flame(what i use now) to Storm to work with my rapier. i think raising miss chance is good for survive, not for effective. This post has been edited by zcb535359: Jul 19 2017, 15:37
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Jul 19 2017, 15:30
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(zcb535359 @ Jul 19 2017, 15:19)  can you tell me why rapier is better?Penetrated Armor?i think void damage is better since procs has only 0.2 chance to happen.
edit:i have done comparison on hell IW. i need one spirit draught to keep spirit stance on when using rapier, while axe needn't. both without Sol or SS.i think this means i have to hit more times when using rapier.
Yes Penetrated armor makes a big difference. And Void is not that special, you just have to remember that every weapon that is not ethereal will get void strike as 10th potency, so if you are not playing DW Light ethereal has absolutly no benefit for you. Also axe has zero parry.
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Jul 19 2017, 16:38
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Muddybug
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QUOTE(zcb535359 @ Jul 19 2017, 08:39)  Hello, guys. I have some problem to deal with my weapon. several days ago i got this one from freeshop Magnificent Ethereal Axe of Slaughter. i think its prefix and suffix are good, but most stats are low according to Equipment Ranges table on Wiki.so i didn't soulfuse when i got it. but now i am nearly 30 lv higher, and i still can't find a better one to replace it yet. what i have is Magnificent Shocking Rapier of Balance. i don't like it for its suffix. what should i do now? does the axe worth soulfuse? or i should continue using it or the rapier until a better one drop?thanks in advance. Between the two I'd choose the rapier, and I'd consider taking it to IW10, either you doing it or a IW service. I used a Magnificent Rapier of Slaughter (no prefix, high ADB) for around 100 levels. Replaced it just recently.
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Jul 19 2017, 20:35
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(zcb535359 @ Jul 19 2017, 14:39)  Hello, guys. I have some problem to deal with my weapon. several days ago i got this one from freeshop Magnificent Ethereal Axe of Slaughter. i think its prefix and suffix are good, but most stats are low according to Equipment Ranges table on Wiki.so i didn't soulfuse when i got it. but now i am nearly 30 lv higher, and i still can't find a better one to replace it yet. what i have is Magnificent Shocking Rapier of Balance. i don't like it for its suffix. what should i do now? does the axe worth soulfuse? or i should continue using it or the rapier until a better one drop?thanks in advance. Don't underestimate the usefulness of a good accuracy, especially once you combine it with a +20% anti-parry. Also, don't forget that Balance weapons have a boost in critical chance. For my part I prefer a Balance weapon that deals damage consistently over a Slaughter that misses half of its attacks. I do think that Axes are trash aswell. Low accuracy, complete absence of parry, high burden... I don't know what it gives for a Heavy 1H, but I hope that it doesn't make you miss your counterattacks. This post has been edited by decondelite: Jul 19 2017, 20:38
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Jul 19 2017, 20:51
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 19 2017, 20:35)  Don't underestimate the usefulness of a good accuracy, especially once you combine it with a +20% anti-parry. Also, don't forget that Balance weapons have a boost in critical chance. For my part I prefer a Balance weapon that deals damage consistently over a Slaughter that misses half of its attacks.
Let me just say some day you will notice that you have reached a hit chance of nearly 200% just with level ups and dont care at all about a balance weapon. QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 19 2017, 20:35)  I don't know what it gives for a Heavy 1H, but I hope that it doesn't make you miss your counterattacks.
Well it lets you sort of miss counterattacks. Low BUR means higher evade. Evade is something you just dont want as 1H. Because evade acts first, even before block and parry. So evade reduce the chance to get a block or a parry. But of course with heavy the evade chance will still be way too low to actually help you survive, so with heavy armor you just dont benefit from a low BUR. I have read that in the last 100 round of PFUDORFest or so 1H Heavy use SV and that it would be helpfull to survive, but until i have seen it myself i still doubt that.
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Jul 19 2017, 22:06
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KitsuneAbby
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Your accuracy may go up with levels, but the monsters parry/block/evade/resist does so aswell.
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Jul 19 2017, 22:21
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 19 2017, 22:06)  Your accuracy may go up with levels, but the monsters parry/block/evade/resist does so aswell.
Do you really think i would care about monster parry/block/evade/resist? You would be wrong, because i dont. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Jul 19 2017, 23:30
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 19 2017, 20:51)  Let me just say some day you will notice that you have reached a hit chance of nearly 200% just with level ups and dont care at all about a balance weapon. Well it lets you sort of miss counterattacks. Low BUR means higher evade. Evade is something you just dont want as 1H. Because evade acts first, even before block and parry. So evade reduce the chance to get a block or a parry. But of course with heavy the evade chance will still be way too low to actually help you survive, so with heavy armor you just dont benefit from a low BUR. I have read that in the last 100 round of PFUDORFest or so 1H Heavy use SV and that it would be helpfull to survive, but until i have seen it myself i still doubt that.
What is SV? QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 19 2017, 22:06)  Your accuracy may go up with levels, but the monsters parry/block/evade/resist does so aswell.
Do they? I thought only the difficulty affects their stats by giving a stat modifier and level only allows you meet different monsters due to the monster cap?
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Jul 19 2017, 23:42
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jul 19 2017, 23:30)  What is SV?
Shadow Veil spell. QUOTE(as013 @ Jul 19 2017, 23:30)  Do they? I thought only the difficulty affects their stats by giving a stat modifier and level only allows you meet different monsters due to the monster cap?
yep, they do. monsters become stronger with levels. but the character becomes stronger in a faster way, so you won't see the full effect. something like that.
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Jul 20 2017, 01:15
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Ser6IjVolk
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So as a 1H heavy, what should I aim for on my armor? I'm guessing HP > MP >>> Dark/Holy resist >>> Elemental resist? And of course you would have to be insane to try and get both Dreadnought AND Capacitor, so you should be happy with either. Or am I wrong and a melee should go for HP only?
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Jul 20 2017, 01:21
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Jul 20 2017, 01:15)  So as a 1H heavy, what should I aim for on my armor? I'm guessing HP > MP >>> Dark/Holy resist >>> Elemental resist? And of course you would have to be insane to try and get both Dreadnought AND Capacitor, so you should be happy with either. Or am I wrong and a melee should go for HP only?
i'd say something like Juggernaut >>>> Holy/Fireproof >>>> Capacitor > all the rest. and unless you want to do PFfest AND show off your perfect stats, you won't need Jug25. just be happy if something pops out.
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Jul 20 2017, 03:52
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yami_zetsu
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QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Jul 19 2017, 18:15)  So as a 1H heavy, what should I aim for on my armor? I'm guessing HP > MP >>> Dark/Holy resist >>> Elemental resist? And of course you would have to be insane to try and get both Dreadnought AND Capacitor, so you should be happy with either. Or am I wrong and a melee should go for HP only?
1H doesn't need that much HP, just be happy with a jug4/5 in all your armor pieces and you're set, in my case what kept me getting hurt the most was the fact that I didn't forge my shield much, try to get a good force shield and forge it until you get at least 60% block, the forging shouldn't take THAT much credits, the shield, maybe 200k~500k considering you're not buying an endgame shield
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Jul 20 2017, 04:07
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NekoRenard
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How do you manage to get better equipment when you're in the 150-350 range? It seems like either level unassigned gear is too weak and the good gear is like LV400+ range.
I tried looking around WTS subforum, but I couldnt really find gear that is better that what I have.
Atm it feels like I just have to save up fragments for Soul Binding a high level item to lower it's level so that I can equip it. (if that's how it works)
I'm still fairly new so there is still a bunch I dont know. I generally browse the wiki and the WTS forum but atm I'm still using level 50-100 gear that I got from drops or item shop.
Does it not matter until a particular level or am I just missing something.
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