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Jun 15 2017, 00:20
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trutta
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 15 2017, 00:15)  Yes it says: Limits
Playing a large number of rounds at lower difficulties in any battle mode reduces the drop rate from monsters for a period of time. This begins after 1,000 rounds and reaches maximum effect after 2,000 rounds. The reduction caps at 75% for Normal, 50% for Hard, and 25% for Nightmare. This applies to ALL drops besides Arena/Ring of Blood clear bonus drops. The round counter cools down at a rate of 1 per minute (out of combat only).
And then follows up with: Credits
Credits can only drop from monsters that did not drop anything else; however, the credit drop chance is static (~20%?) and is not affected by anything (e.g. increasing Scavenger does not negatively impact credit drop chance in any significant way). So it can be a little confusing..
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Jun 15 2017, 00:25
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(trutta @ Jun 15 2017, 00:20)  So it can be a little confusing..
Not if you just notice the upper-case letters. This applies to ALL drops besides Arena/Ring of Blood clear bonus drops. So all except the listed clear bonus drops.
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Jun 15 2017, 05:36
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manga522
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i was so thankful for get all the experts advices (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 14 2017, 17:50)  less STR and probably a bit more END on that mage persona.
i'd drop STR 30 up to END and try (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) thanks advise QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 14 2017, 17:58)  And at least a single level of Quartermaster wouldnt hurt.
going to rise 3 or 5 level with Quartermaster i thought maybe get more PA is better to me so i leave it alone to 0 i just don't have confidence to find nice drop QUOTE(Rhydin @ Jun 14 2017, 18:34)  Grab a decent Force Shield (base block >37) and forge it to 15 or 20, aim for ~55% to 60% Block at your current level. That should already allow you to handle IWBTH or even PFUDOR difficulty. Also, to speed things up, grab a Slaughter Rapier - you don't need the Accuracy from Balance suffix anyway (you're at ~220% Hit Chance).
good to know that i gonna find a nice shield to power up i really want to play IW @ IWBTH QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 14 2017, 21:52)  i got 10 Assimilator too (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) can understand whats uncles feeling already regreted to rise it with the max level , just wasted (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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Jun 15 2017, 07:56
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(manga522 @ Jun 15 2017, 05:36)  going to rise 3 or 5 level with Quartermaster i just don't have confidence to find nice drop
Dont look at it that way. I mean, even a shitty Mag Cloth drop, is worth allready 18k (HG Cloth) Also even more worthless equipment drops mean more equipment for bazaring, which means more money. Not that much, but every little bit helps.
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Jun 15 2017, 11:00
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manga522
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 15 2017, 07:56)  Dont look at it that way. I mean, even a shitty Mag Cloth drop, is worth allready 18k (HG Cloth) Also even more worthless equipment drops mean more equipment for bazaring, which means more money. Not that much, but every little bit helps.
so much right i should rise it immediately , every little make a mickle
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Jun 15 2017, 12:27
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ALL_MIGHT
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If level of equipment is unassigned. How do i know whether it's attributes will inc. or dec. after soulbound / soulfuse.?
This post has been edited by ALL_MIGHT: Jun 15 2017, 12:30
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Jun 15 2017, 12:48
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Greshnik
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Jun 15 2017, 17:27)  If level of equipment is unassigned. How do i know whether it's attributes will inc. or dec. after soulbound / soulfuse.?
AFAIK unassigned eq stats always scale to the viewer's level... so when you equip/soulbound it, the stats will not change... CMIIW...
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Jun 15 2017, 12:55
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Jun 15 2017, 12:48)  AFAIK unassigned eq stats always scale to the viewer's level... so when you equip/soulbound it, the stats will not change...
exactly. they will remain the same, but a level will be assigned - your own level. from that point onwards, they'll behave like usual.
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Jun 15 2017, 13:53
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ALL_MIGHT
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Jun 15 2017, 16:18)  AFAIK unassigned eq stats always scale to the viewer's level... so when you equip/soulbound it, the stats will not change... CMIIW...
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 15 2017, 16:25)  exactly. they will remain the same, but a level will be assigned - your own level. from that point onwards, they'll behave like usual.
thanks
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Jun 15 2017, 16:41
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WeebLife
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QUOTE(trutta @ Jun 15 2017, 08:35)  If I were in your position I would get some better gear (in other words spend my gold on gear instead of training) and then just do an all-out rampage (normal difficulty, complete all arenas every day, etc) for a week or three to get my profeciencies up.
How much would each piece of Mag power of slaughter cost me, do you think? I currently only have 5M creds on hand because I was saving my hath for coupon clipper. It's not a prob if it costs more than 5M, it just means I'd have to sell some hath 1st. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 15 2017, 08:35)  eh? seriously? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) just use the "+Quote" button at the very left of the "Quote" button you already use. select all the posts you want to quote, then press "New Reply". more than what you think. i think that the only ones that didn't complete it past a certain level are me and a few selected ones. THAT'S what the +quote does!? Fuck I feel like a retard. I thought the +quote button was to do nested quotes /ded 1000 rounds though... Say an average of 7 monsters per round, and an average of 5 hits to kill each monster. That's 7*5*1000 = 35000 page refreshes. Even if you botted and had an awsome machine that could perform 1 attack/page refresh per second, it'd still take 35000/60/60 = 9.72 hours of continuous botting just to beat the grindfest... You guys are insane. I can think of a million things i'd rather do than spend an entire day on a grindfest @_@
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Jun 15 2017, 17:00
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(The Original Zeo @ Jun 15 2017, 16:41)  9.72 hours of continuous botting just to beat the grindfest...
Wrong. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jun 15 2017, 17:02
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friggo
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QUOTE(The Original Zeo @ Jun 15 2017, 17:41)  How much would each piece of Mag power of slaughter cost me, do you think? I currently only have 5M creds on hand because I was saving my hath for coupon clipper. It's not a prob if it costs more than 5M, it just means I'd have to sell some hath 1st. THAT'S what the +quote does!? Fuck I feel like a retard. I thought the +quote button was to do nested quotes /ded
1000 rounds though... Say an average of 7 monsters per round, and an average of 5 hits to kill each monster. That's 7*5*1000 = 35000 page refreshes. Even if you botted and had an awsome machine that could perform 1 attack/page refresh per second, it'd still take 35000/60/60 = 9.72 hours of continuous botting just to beat the grindfest... You guys are insane. I can think of a million things i'd rather do than spend an entire day on a grindfest @_@
Okay so, don't take this the wrong way, but... what? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Based on your sig, you've spent about 100m on training and 25k hath on perks, and you're still using mostly Exquisite gear? Not to tell you how to play the game, but that just seems like a massive mismanagement of resources. Plus, there are scripts (specifically Reloader) you can find on the wiki to make the game faster. You don't need a whole day to beat a 1000-round grindfest, many people can even do it in under an hour. I'm not even playing mage and I can clear hellfest in about 90 minutes. And for the love of Snowflake, at least buy some better gear before even considering stuff like Coupon Clipper. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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Jun 15 2017, 17:28
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WeebLife
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QUOTE(friggo @ Jun 16 2017, 01:32)  Okay so, don't take this the wrong way, but... what? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Based on your sig, you've spent about 100m on training and 25k hath on perks, and you're still using mostly Exquisite gear? Not to tell you how to play the game, but that just seems like a massive mismanagement of resources. Plus, there are scripts (specifically Reloader) you can find on the wiki to make the game faster. You don't need a whole day to beat a 1000-round grindfest, many people can even do it in under an hour. I'm not even playing mage and I can clear hellfest in about 90 minutes. And for the love of Snowflake, at least buy some better gear before even considering stuff like Coupon Clipper. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) what? Indeed. I know it has been a big "mismanagement of resources" lol, but I just hate using the forums *so much* that I'd rather spend hath/creds unwisely than deal with the pain of using the forums (I only have a mobile, no pc). The only reason I'm looking now is because I'm actually finding killing shit a bit hard now. I frequently get down to flashing health in random encounters, but thankfully I havent died yet (nightmare) I'd have to see it to believe it, cuz as I said earlier, it took me 3 whole work days to complete trio and the tree (lunch break, and before/after bed) and that's only 100 rounds on normal (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I searched eh wiki for reloader with no hits. Where do I get it the script; and is it compatible with unrooted android mobile browsers? Back to the topic of gears really quick - what's roughly the going rate for Mag/Leg power of slaughter gears? Thx
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Jun 15 2017, 17:32
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(The Original Zeo @ Jun 15 2017, 17:28)  what's roughly the going rate for Mag/Leg power of slaughter gears?
You mean good ones? Leg 10M~20M. Per single piece. Mag is much cheaper. This post has been edited by Stulpen: Jun 15 2017, 17:33
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Jun 15 2017, 17:47
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Muddybug
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QUOTE(The Original Zeo @ Jun 15 2017, 10:41)  How much would each piece of Mag power of slaughter cost me, do you think? I currently only have 5M creds on hand because I was saving my hath for coupon clipper. It's not a prob if it costs more than 5M, it just means I'd have to sell some hath 1st.
You can get decent *legendary* gear of /protection/warding/balance/ in the range of 50k to 250k. mag gear of slaughter should be in the same price range or you shouldn't be buying it. But I would suggest if you have a 5M budget for now, perhaps look for legendary gear you soon would grow into. mediocre legendary gear =~ the best mag gear. *Legendary* gear of slaughter is what runs into the millions, from a couple million to 10ish. You could worry about those pieces at 350+ Good legendary rapiers can be had from .. oh, 750k to a couple million. I think friggo paid circa 6 mill for a endgame class rapier. My suggestion: /WATCH/ the auctions. Figure out what you would like. Do not bid the first couple weeks. And yes, as friggo suggests, perhaps look at a reloading script (reloader or vanilla reloader) and figure it out. All that said, the two most important pieces of gear are the weapon and the shield. I just got a legendary 91% drop on shield, which ends my buying any new shields pretty much forever. But I count myself very lucky in that regard. Ps - sent you four magnificent pieces via moogle mail. Some of them might help. This post has been edited by dmyers59: Jun 15 2017, 18:15
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Jun 15 2017, 19:22
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WeebLife
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 16 2017, 02:02)  You mean good ones? Leg 10M~20M. Per single piece. Mag is much cheaper.
Oh snap, that's 2k-4k hath per piece. I might do this for just the weap for starters, then. Thank you. QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Jun 16 2017, 02:04)  /ded orz I checked out the script stuff you linked (really neat btw). You wouldn't happen to know how to use the scripts on a mbile phone though, would you? The guide thrad doesn't cover details for how to use with mob (unless I'm blind?) QUOTE(dmyers59 @ Jun 16 2017, 02:17)  You can get decent *legendary* gear of /protection/warding/balance/ in the range of 50k to 250k. mag gear of slaughter should be in the same price range or you shouldn't be buying it. But I would suggest if you have a 5M budget for now, perhaps look for legendary gear you soon would grow into.
mediocre legendary gear =~ the best mag gear.
*Legendary* gear of slaughter is what runs into the millions, from a couple million to 10ish. You could worry about those pieces at 350+
Good legendary rapiers can be had from .. oh, 750k to a couple million. I think friggo paid circa 6 mill for a endgame class rapier.
My suggestion: /WATCH/ the auctions. Figure out what you would like. Do not bid the first couple weeks.
And yes, as friggo suggests, perhaps look at a reloading script (reloader or vanilla reloader) and figure it out.
All that said, the two most important pieces of gear are the weapon and the shield. I just got a legendary 91% drop on shield, which ends my buying any new shields pretty much forever. But I count myself very lucky in that regard.
Ps - sent you four magnificent pieces via moogle mail. Some of them might help.
Tyyy. Continuing our chat via MM instead of here (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by The Original Zeo: Jun 15 2017, 21:12
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Jun 16 2017, 12:22
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283xl3gj3
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How can I use "Inferno","Blizzard","Chained Lightning"....?
My Effective Proficiency is 37 ( no equipment) But I can let my Effective Proficiency be 102 ( with equipment)
Thank you
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Jun 16 2017, 12:31
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friggo
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QUOTE(283xl3gj3 @ Jun 16 2017, 13:22)  How can I use "Inferno","Blizzard","Chained Lightning"....?
My Effective Proficiency is 37 ( no equipment) But I can let my Effective Proficiency be 102 ( with equipment)
Thank you
The requirements are listed here: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/spellsBasically, you need at least 50 base proficiency (without equipment) to use those spells.
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Jun 16 2017, 15:58
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xcaliber9999
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Just wondering does clearing arenas and grindfest fast requires mage built or good net connection ?
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