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hey guys, i'm trying to figure out why my next step should be for raising my ADB. currently i have 10.8k with Free Flowing Dust; my Rapier is at max forge(80 attack) for me and each piece of slaughter is between 15-20 attack upgrades.

Quick advice: Your ADB will not visible rise with Free Flowing Dust or Grace&Knowledge or Golden Compasses. That perk bonus is calculated in battle, not in the ADB you see. If you want that stat to be higher (for showing-off purposes) you may want to give priority to equip, forging and leveling up.

For forging: if you have forged all equip equally, you're not doing it right. Check the Forge Optimizer by Scremaz (see his sig) so you can make most impact per repurposed actuator spent.

This post has been edited by DJNoni: Jun 2 2017, 10:34

Question to all high level mages, how many abilities boost did you bought?

Question to all high level mages, how many abilities boost did you bought?

148

Elemental mage

I'm considering to switch to wind mag now,with 4+1 style,how much elemental prof do I need with the staff and the groves(or shoes)?

I got a staff

A prof factor of 0.68 is consider ideal. to get that you need the base elem prof stats of you equipment to add up to 14.3.
You staff as a base elem prof of 6.1(94%) so a piece with 8.2 (90% cap, 20% pants) would be ideal. Groves or shoes won't cut it.

Question to all high level mages, how many abilities boost did you bought?

Holy/Dark or Elemental? Elemental use a lot more than Holy/Dark. I personal have 140 as Wind Mage.

Question to all high level mages, how many abilities boost did you bought?

124 as elemental mage.

Quick advice: Your ADB will not visible rise with Free Flowing Dust or Grace&Knowledge or Golden Compasses. That perk bonus is calculated in battle, not in the ADB you see. If you want that stat to be higher (for showing-off purposes) you may want to give priority to equip, forging and leveling up.

For forging: if you have forged all equip equally, you're not doing it right. Check the Forge Optimizer by Scremaz (see his sig) so you can make most impact per repurposed actuator spent.

I'm aware that it will not increase my ADB visibly. i'm also aware that equipment should not be upgraded equally since some pieces have higher base ADB which gives a larger return per an upgrade until the diminishing returns hit hard. i will check out screamz's optimizer though, i have just been making educated guesses till now.

This post has been edited by jackalo: Jun 2 2017, 23:48

The fact is that optimizers cannot take in account the value of an equipment.

Between a peerless slaughter boots and a leg slaughter armor with LMin roll which is the piece you would upgrade the most?
Optimizers will always say armor, which is objectively the wrong answer since you would instantly lose 10% (rounded up) of the materials + the catalysts when you will upgrade to something better.
On the other hand you would never get anything better than the boots so no risk of losing credits when upgrading.

So educated guesses are still useful, optimizers, scripts etc etc are made to aid in decision making, not to be blindly trusted.

This post has been edited by Sapo84: Jun 3 2017, 00:32

The fact is that optimizers cannot take in account the value of an equipment.

Between a peerless slaughter boots and a leg slaughter armor with LMin roll which is the piece you would upgrade the most?
Optimizers will always say armor, which is objectively the wrong answer since you would instantly lose 90% of the materials + the catalysts when you will upgrade to something better.
On the other hand you would never get anything better than the boots so no risk of losing credits when upgrading.

So educated guesses are still useful, optimizers, scripts etc etc are made to aid in decision making, not to be blindly trusted.

I thought you only lost 10% plus catalysts when salvaging?!?

I thought you only lost 10% plus catalysts when salvaging?!?

Yeah, I started writing what you get back, switched to what you lose and didn't correct the percentage.

The fact is that optimizers cannot take in account the value of an equipment.

Between a peerless slaughter boots and a leg slaughter armor with LMin roll which is the piece you would upgrade the most?
Optimizers will always say armor, which is objectively the wrong answer since you would instantly lose 10% (rounded up) of the materials + the catalysts when you will upgrade to something better.
On the other hand you would never get anything better than the boots so no risk of losing credits when upgrading.

So educated guesses are still useful, optimizers, scripts etc etc are made to aid in decision making, not to be blindly trusted.

not everyone is daring to upgrade his gears whenever a new +1% is available. most of people go for a mid-quality piece and stick with it for a long while, i guess.

but yep, i never meant for my optimizers to be god-like word. i wrote something about that in the disclaimer, iirc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

and btw, answer between the peerless boots and the leg armor is: it depends on how far you are with upgrades. depending on that, answer may be boots, armor, both or neither of those (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jun 3 2017, 00:39

not everyone is daring to upgrade his gears whenever a new +1% is available. most of people go for a mid-quality piece and stick with it for a long while, i guess.

When you have an equip which is worth <1M how much forging is justified until you are better off getting a better piece and forge that?
That is something you still need to take in account.

Anyway, it was an extreme example to show that educated guesses aren't inherently bad and optimizers shine for fine-tuning.

Anyway, since a patch is gonna land soon I would keep the credits for the time being.
Spending too much for something that can get significalty worse in a couple of weeks doesn't sound like a good idea.

When you have an equip which is worth <1M how much forging is justified until you are better off getting a better piece and forge that?
That is something you still need to take in account.

Anyway, it was an extreme example to show that educated guesses aren't inherently bad and optimizers shine for fine-tuning.

Anyway, since a patch is gonna land soon I would keep the credits for the time being.
Spending too much for something that can get significalty worse in a couple of weeks doesn't sound like a good idea.

I've been going ahead and dumping basically all of my credits into forging; yea I lose catalysts and 10% of materials, but what else am I gonna spend em on anyways? as I see it, every bit helps push me towards that level 500 goal.

But I also have a decent (60+ H@H alone) hath income so what works for me and what losses dont bother me may not work for everyone.

When you have an equip which is worth <1M how much forging is justified until you are better off getting a better piece and forge that?
That is something you still need to take in account.

Anyway, it was an extreme example to show that educated guesses aren't inherently bad and optimizers shine for fine-tuning.

Anyway, since a patch is gonna land soon I would keep the credits for the time being.
Spending too much for something that can get significalty worse in a couple of weeks doesn't sound like a good idea.

i have all leg slaughter >50% ADB except maybe 2 pieces and one of them is savage. they are all also soulfused so im with this equipment for the long haul. since that new patch is hitting does that also mean i should hang on to gear like that Legendary wind staff of Destruction i found with good rolls instead of selling?

since that new patch is hitting does that also mean i should hang on to gear like that Legendary wind staff of Destruction i found with good rolls instead of selling?

After the patch it could the thing, worth more than a shit-ton, or it could after the patch have the same worth as a woodstick in RL. My advice is, just ignore the upcomming update and do what you would do without the update.

My advice is, just ignore the upcomming update and do what you would do without the update.

Preach, brother (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

I agree with uncle. No point in putting everything on hold because of what might or might not happen. I even remember Tenboro saying somewhere that 0.85 will be a technical update, not a rebalance, but I'll be damned if I can find that post now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

is there a cheap method to rank up forge?

This post has been edited by jackalo: Jun 3 2017, 07:45

is there a cheap method to rank up forge?

Basically, no. You can play around with leather, but the bindings are still somewhat expensive. You need high forging to get high experience

After the patch it could the thing, worth more than a shit-ton, or it could after the patch have the same worth as a woodstick in RL. My advice is, just ignore the upcomming update and do what you would do without the update.

This seems like a mr. Suggestion to me. It's useless to worry about what will happen after, since you know the.market of today quite well.

I agree with uncle. No point in putting everything on hold because of what might or might not happen. I even remember Tenboro saying somewhere that 0.85 will be a technical update, not a rebalance, but I'll be damned if I can find that post now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Unless it's something really recent, take it with a bit of salt.

since that new patch is hitting does that also mean i should hang on to gear like that Legendary wind staff of Destruction i found with good rolls instead of selling?

You have a redwood right?
Everything can happen, a patch could make resist less useful thus buffing redwood or mage could be nerfed entirely.
It's a risk either way.
I would just refrain from spending too much since you never know what's happening (buffs, nerfs, new perks) and hanging on credits for a few weeks is not costing you anything.

supposing that i *have* to choose, what's better for a 1Her? +160 ADB or +3 Crit Damage?