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It really depends on your sales prices. Super's income comparison script is very usefull for evaluating this. It takes into account the costs of ED and repair, and then shows the net profit. You will probably find out that IWBTH-fest is more profitble than PFFest. And that the arena's are quite good. And that SG should be played on Nightmare.

well i usually dont sell anything. i use all my precursors cause i like to gamble for the energy drinks and crystal packs IMO aren't worth selling less than 35k when i can just pump them into my monsters for better and more frequent drops.

anyways i did a hellfest in about 1 hour and pffest in 2 hours. going off of superlat's data from a while ago it looks like PF fest has around 20% increase in total revenue. considering it takes double the amount of time to complete PF fest i'm concluding hellfest is the more profitable option. the only downside is that im potentially losing out on valuable legendary gear.

my data

PFfest
time: 2hrs
crystals: 75k more or less
Artifacts: 8 avg
equip: 50k equipment
Salvage: 10-20k

Hellfest
time: 1hr
crystals: 48k more or less
Artifacts: 8 avg
equip: 30k equipment
Salvage: 0-5k avg


Im suprised that IWBTH would be more profitable than PF considering monster health is x7.8 compared to x8. clear speed should be almost identical if you have the survivability. only Pffest offers a lot more to be desired than IWBTHfest. minimum superior equip, more crystals, higher drop quality modifier.

This post has been edited by jackalo: May 24 2017, 08:12

anyways i did a hellfest in about 1 hour and pffest in 2 hours. going off of superlat's data from a while ago it looks like PF fest has around 20% increase in total revenue. considering it takes double the amount of time to complete PF fest i'm concluding hellfest is the more profitable option.

You shouldn't compare the two by revenue.
You should use revenue - stamina cost - consumable cost.
EDs aren't free after all.

Im suprised that IWBTH would be more profitable than PF considering monster health is x7.8 compared to x8. clear speed should be almost identical if you have the survivability. only Pffest offers a lot more to be desired than IWBTHfest. minimum superior equip, more crystals, higher drop quality modifier.

You shouldn't use 1H to compare the two (and, still, IWBTHFest is still probably ~5% faster even on 1H).
For mages IWBTH is easily >10% faster between the less resists and much lower need of curing.

Im suprised that IWBTH would be more profitable than PF considering monster health is x7.8 compared to x8. clear speed should be almost identical if you have the survivability. only Pffest offers a lot more to be desired than IWBTHfest. minimum superior equip, more crystals, higher drop quality modifier.

It just depends on what your bottleneck for clearing is, most of the time its survivability or lacking damage. If its the latter you probably wish there was a harder difficulty than pudfor. I agree with the drop in crystal pack prices IWBTH seems much less desirable to run. In my case clearing the last 300 rounds as a 1h mage on pufdor is negligible in any difference compared with the first 700 where as with staff its much more costly both in terms of consumables & turns taken.

That's why I believe grinding pfudor fest even if you flee at 500/700 with quartermaster is optimal.

Even better if you run radiant over charged.

now all my equipment are condition 1%

and in every monster battle they are doing one turn kill to me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

it's just unplayable now. i had sold all my other equipment and never used salvage.

really it's just unplayable.

isn't there any other way?

This post has been edited by ALL_MIGHT: May 24 2017, 18:13

Is there a simple standalone script that accurately gives the cooldown for OFC?

there is: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4843462

now all my equipment are condition 1%

and in every monster battle they are doing one turn kill to me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

it's just unplayable now. i had sold all my other equipment and never used salvage.

really it's just unplayable.

isn't there any other way?

You can just buy scrap from the item shop to repair your equipment. Or am I missing something here?

You can just buy scrap from the item shop to repair your equipment. Or am I missing something here?

for that one has to constantly spend credits just to play. But not everyone has lots of credits and some even needs them for hath perks .

This post has been edited by ALL_MIGHT: May 24 2017, 18:51

for that one has to constantly spend credits just to play. But not everyone has lots of credits and some even needs them for hath perks .

Well that makes no sense. Why on earth would you buy hath perks if you can't even afford to repair equipment?

Just trade your hath for credits, buy scrap, repair your equipment, and then you can play and get more credits with which to buy hath.

Well that makes no sense. Why on earth would you buy hath perks if you can't even afford to repair equipment?

Just trade your hath for credits, buy scrap, repair your equipment, and then you can play and get more credits with which to buy hath.

But earlier at lower level i did not had this problem of low condition% of equipment .
Am i doing something wrong as
now i am constantly loosing battles one after another without win
and condition% keep on reducing even after repairing

This post has been edited by ALL_MIGHT: May 24 2017, 19:57

there is: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4843462

Awesome, thanks!

But earlier at lower level i did not had this problem of low condition% of equipment .
Am i doing something wrong as
now i am constantly loosing battles one after another without win
and condition% keep on reducing even after repairing

That's because low-level players have reduced durability loss. See here: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/condition#Repair

Players below level 100 don't lose any durability over time and only have 2% durability loss for each defeat. Players above level 200 lose about 50 durability per 10k monsters killed and 10% per defeat.

So basically, being defeated greatly reduces durability. When it looks like you can't win, just flee.

And if you're constantly losing battles, just lower the difficulty.

That's because low-level players have reduced durability loss. See here: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/condition#Repair

Players below level 100 don't lose any durability over time and only have 2% durability loss for each defeat. Players above level 200 lose about 50 durability per 10k monsters killed and 10% per defeat.

So basically, being defeated greatly reduces durability. When it looks like you can't win, just flee.

And if you're constantly losing battles, just lower the difficulty.

thanks , I will remember to flee . earlier i used to fight till i die

This post has been edited by ALL_MIGHT: May 24 2017, 20:37

Now after repairing i am winning again.

I have one more query.


for some unknown reason cost of shock attack is thrice that of flame , frost and storm. but all abilities are equally trained in ability points.
why is it? due to it i avoid shock attacks as they takes too much magic points to attack

This post has been edited by ALL_MIGHT: May 25 2017, 02:29

But earlier at lower level i did not had this problem of low condition% of equipment .
Am i doing something wrong as
now i am constantly loosing battles one after another without win
and condition% keep on reducing even after repairing

Make sure to use the Spark of Life Supportive Spell, as it saves you from death if you get killed on a turn as logn as your spirit remains above 50%.

If you have an Innate Arcana slot from Hath Perks, you can slot it there, making it even better, as you don't have to manually cast it again if it triggers and can just use that turn to heal yourself.

Now after repairing i am winning again.

I have one more query.


for some unknown reason cost of shock attack is thrice that of flame , frost and storm. but all abilities are equally trained in ability points.
why is it? due to it i avoid shock attacks as they takes too much magic points to attack

First, playing as a mage before around level 300 isn't advised, as mages need the 0 cooldown deprecating spell Imperil to be the most efficient possible in battles.

A mage also needs top tier equipment to have no issues surviving on higher difficulties, and it's also a costly playstyle, needing restoratives often and infusions to show the best possible performance.

At your level, you would have a much easier time using full leather + mace, or even full leather + rapier + shield, as these playstyles should offer a much higher survivability than playing as a mage while having low level.

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About the spell cost, maybe it's because you are using different spell tiers.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/spells#Elemental

Another explanation would be difference in proficiencies, but the most you could have is a staff that doesn't give any elec proficiency bonus, but even that shouldn't make such a difference in spell cost.

This post has been edited by Kinights: May 25 2017, 07:43

Can penetrated armor reduce defense below 0, giving amplified damage? Also does it even affect void strike, i.e. an ethereal rapier is redundant?

Another explanation would be difference in proficiencies, but the most you could have is a staff that doesn't give any elec proficiency bonus, but even that shouldn't make such a difference in spell cost.

Elec prof bonus? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
There is only elemental prof, not a specific prof for each element.

Can penetrated armor reduce defense below 0, giving amplified damage? Also does it even affect void strike, i.e. an ethereal rapier is redundant?

No.
Yes. (physical, magical and elemental mitigations are three separate stats, void means 0 elemental mitigations, the other two still apply)

This post has been edited by Sapo84: May 25 2017, 09:33

No.
Yes. (physical, magical and elemental mitigations are three separate stats, void means 0 elemental mitigations, the other two still apply)

So if void strike still gets reduced by physical mitigation what's the difference between void strike and regular physical attack? The enchant description of voidseeker shards also says "temporarily changes the weapon damage type to void. This effectively makes it ignore the physical defenses of most monsters."

So if void strike still gets reduced by physical mitigation what's the difference between void strike and regular physical attack? The enchant description of voidseeker shards also says "temporarily changes the weapon damage type to void. This effectively makes it ignore the physical defenses of most monsters."

Most HV descriptions are bad or outdated, don't trust them, ever.

Anyway, melee weapons have 4 types of damage, Crushing, Slashing, Piercing, Void.
A monster, depending on its class will have different mitigation for each damage type.
You can see it in [hvlist.niblseed.com] hvlist, for example.
Mitigations for void is always 0.

Strikes are a bit different, there is no slashing/crushing/piercing, strikes are either void or elemental.
You can see in hvlist that elemental mitigations are pretty high, making void strike much better than the alternatives.

PA has nothing to do with anything said above, it reduces physical mitigation, which is an hidden stat.

Most HV descriptions are bad or outdated, don't trust them, ever.

Anyway, melee weapons have 4 types of damage, Crushing, Slashing, Piercing, Void.
A monster, depending on its class will have different mitigation for each damage type.
You can see it in [hvlist.niblseed.com] hvlist, for example.
Mitigations for void is always 0.

Strikes are a bit different, there is no slashing/crushing/piercing, strikes are either void or elemental.
You can see in hvlist that elemental mitigations are pretty high, making void strike much better than the alternatives.

PA has nothing to do with anything said above, it reduces physical mitigation, which is an hidden stat.

Oh so void bypasses the crush/slash/pierce resist but not the 'physical mitigation' stat, which penetrated armor takes care of? I think I get it now, thanks.

Oh so void bypasses the crush/slash/pierce resist but not the 'physical mitigation' stat, which penetrated armor takes care of? I think I get it now, thanks.

Yep.