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post May 22 2017, 06:53
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QUOTE(SidZBear @ May 22 2017, 01:18) *

Slaughter is hard to find though XD

I use shadow vail, but i've been skipping on haste from previous advice

Should I look for a Legendary shield, or is what I have good enough, and just forge that on up to max?

Also, sorry if the picture shows up big... I tried to crop it/shrink it down >.<

You can also look for balance suffix, as it gives crit chance and has same ADB other suffixes offer if you aren't getting slaughter.

Haste isn't adviced to use because it's usually not needed for 1H. You can still use it when you are receiving a lot of damage, as it will reduce the number of cures you need, so no need to hold back on using it if your stats still aren't enough to survive deep IWBTH/PFUDORfests.

Legendary shields with decent block pop up often on the weekly auctions. It's one of the most important stats for 1H, so you might want to wait until you get a better shield before forging it to 30 and salvaging it the next week or two.
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post May 22 2017, 08:53
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QUOTE(jackalo @ May 22 2017, 07:53) *
Legendary shield first, then start accumulating slaughter gear while increasing the block on your new shield. the most important stat is block, you want to make sure you buy one around 90% with str/dex/end; other stuff isnt as important.


You should also suggest that he better start saving credits, because decent force shields ain't cheap. A 88% block shield went for over 13m in the last auction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 22 2017, 09:05
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QUOTE(friggo @ May 22 2017, 00:53) *

You should also suggest that he better start saving credits, because decent force shields ain't cheap. A 88% block shield went for over 13m in the last auction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


yeah but that was an optimal level protection shield. Protection is nice but not necessary as long as you have a high block %. you can find a str/dex/end force shield with 90% block varying suffix below 1 mill depending on level.



edit: goldage can you give me a link on where i can download the drop tracker you're using plz, i cant find it anywhere!!!!!

2nd edit: man crystal pack prices are tanking, should i just start using them to up my own monsters? i feel like sub 30k cp arent worth selling since 7.5cp you can get a monster that drops highgrade materials every day..........

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post May 22 2017, 09:47
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QUOTE(Kinights @ May 22 2017, 02:34) *

The best mage setup I'm aware of is a good prof Cap/Gloves/Shoes, choosing two of them to fully forge and using phase for the three remaining slots.

It's not enough to reach 1.0 prof on dark mage.
You need at least robe + shoes or pants + gloves, but they must have very high prof rolls (~90%).
If you want to use imperil robe may not even be good enough (since you should aim for around 0.8 prof factor).
Since the difference is probably not that big robe + shoes for non imperil and only robe for imperil may be a good setup.
But we are talking about top-tier equip, which does not apply in this case.


QUOTE(Goldage @ May 22 2017, 05:42) *

Do you think I should go on? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

If you have every other useful ability and perks why not?
In case you don't get those before you continue.

I'm planning to max the abilities after I get Asseater and Crys V, until then Scav 40, Lotd 16, Quartermaster 13 and Arch 8 are more than enough.
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post May 22 2017, 12:41
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QUOTE(friggo @ May 22 2017, 02:51) *

Not really confusing at all, I don't think.

First off, Scavenger is irrelevant in this calculation. All it does is improve the chances of getting a drop, period. The question is what kind the drop will be, which Scavenger doesn't affect in the slightest.

So using a sufficiently large sample base of 10,000 successful drop rolls, a simple breakdown would be:

With 0 training across the board:

250 equipment
19.5 artifacts
19.46 tokens
3398.86 crystals
3398.86 restoratives (draught/potion/elixir)
2913.32 everything else (infusions, scrolls, shards, food, etc)

With maxed Quartermaster:

500 equipment
19 artifacts
18.96 tokens
3311.71 crystals
3311.71 restoratives
2838.62 everything else

So it's exactly as sigo8 said. By the time a player with no QM would have 39 tokens, a player with maxed QM would have 38 (as well as +500 more equipment). So the difference is minimal.



Ok so one is "nothing trained" and the other is "nothing trained but QM=max"

I take it you did just take the number from the Loot-table in the wiki and calculated those? Because it is interesting to know how those numbers change with other Loot-skills being trained (except
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post May 22 2017, 16:40
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QUOTE(jackalo @ May 22 2017, 04:05) *

edit: goldage can you give me a link on where i can download the drop tracker you're using plz, i cant find it anywhere!!!!!

It's in gianfrix94's signature.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...p;#entry4736435

I actually find it easier looking for the coder's posts in the script thread when looking for scripts.
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post May 22 2017, 16:54
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Oops ... I see it now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...p;#entry4675470

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post May 22 2017, 17:40
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QUOTE(SidZBear @ May 22 2017, 00:18) *

Slaughter is hard to find though XD

I use shadow vail, but i've been skipping on haste from previous advice

Should I look for a Legendary shield, or is what I have good enough, and just forge that on up to max?



Slaughter is hard to find and friggo is paying 10m a piece for it.

and someone like me, my income is /at least/ an order of magnitude below you and friggo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

But the suffix advice is pretty general and good. I've seen ppl spend half a million for a protection piece
when a warding piece with the same ADB was sold for 50k.

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post May 22 2017, 17:44
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QUOTE(dmyers59 @ May 22 2017, 17:40) *

Slaughter is hard to find and friggo is paying 10m a piece for it.

and someone like me, my income is /at least/ an order of magnitude below you and friggo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

But the suffix advice is pretty general and good. I've seen ppl spend half a million for a protection piece
when a warding piece with the same ADB was sold for 50k.


Back in the day (granpa is taking, kids) I did the same. Warding is pretty decent. I even went for a force shield without DEX - works too, just not as good. Only the rapier needs to be good.
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post May 22 2017, 17:46
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Question about magic attacks with range of 5.

if I aim at no 1, it'll affect no.1-5
if i aim at no 4, it'll affect no. 2-6

how does it works?
2 above and 2 below?
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post May 22 2017, 18:13
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ May 22 2017, 11:46) *

Question about magic attacks with range of 5.

if I aim at no 1, it'll affect no.1-5
if i aim at no 4, it'll affect no. 2-6

how does it works?
2 above and 2 below?


Don't know about range, but if the spell affects 3 people, target the one in the middle. Below and above will also be affected.
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post May 22 2017, 19:40
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ May 22 2017, 17:46) *

Question about magic attacks with range of 5.

if I aim at no 1, it'll affect no.1-5
if i aim at no 4, it'll affect no. 2-6

how does it works?
2 above and 2 below?


I suspect a boundary effect. This can be of use in SG arena's where there are gaps of dead monsters in between the SG. Aiming at 1 will get 5, while aiming at 5 won't get 1.

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post May 22 2017, 20:05
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ May 22 2017, 09:46) *

Question about magic attacks with range of 5.

if I aim at no 1, it'll affect no.1-5
if i aim at no 4, it'll affect no. 2-6

how does it works?
2 above and 2 below?

If there's 5 or less monsters (including dead) it will hit all, otherwise it hits the monster 2 above the target (or No 1 if there less then 2 above the target) and the 4 below the top most hit monster.
Unfortunately there not re-aiming affect for the bottom, aiming at No 10 will only affect 8,9,10
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post May 22 2017, 22:36
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so what should I save or budget for my next upgrade? I get around 75 to 100k credits a day, not including anything I sell.
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post May 22 2017, 23:21
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QUOTE(SidZBear @ May 22 2017, 16:36) *

so what should I save or budget for my next upgrade? I get around 75 to 100k credits a day, not including anything I sell.


I think I agree with Kiinight in the main. Shield is the most bang for buck if you can get a better one. You have a lot of magnificent gear, and I suspect if you look around, you'll be able to find better legendary gear that doesn't cost a fortune. I don't think at high 300s low 400s you need all end game gear just yet.

On the low end, at auctions I look for pieces that aren't what everybody is fighting for, but an improvement for me, and I make minimum bids on those.

That said, if you have some great magnificent pieces, there is no hurry to replace them.
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post May 23 2017, 02:42
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QUOTE(dmyers59 @ May 22 2017, 18:40) *

Slaughter is hard to find and friggo is paying 10m a piece for it.


Well, I'm playing melee, so what else am I gonna spend my credits on? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Besides, the stuff on the auctions (Legendary + Power + Slaughter + high ADB) is end-game gear anyway, so it makes sense for it to be rare/expensive.

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Ok so one is "nothing trained" and the other is "nothing trained but QM=max"

I take it you did just take the number from the Loot-table in the wiki and calculated those? Because it is interesting to know how those numbers change with other Loot-skills being trained (except


Okay, let's do one more comparison then just for fun.

With 0 training across the board:

250 equipment
19.5 artifacts
19.46 tokens
3398.86 crystals
3398.86 restoratives (draught/potion/elixir)
2913.32 everything else (infusions, scrolls, shards, food, etc)

With maxed Quartermaster, Archaeologist, Tokenizer and Crystarium (on PFUDOR):

500 equipment
38 artifacts
75.7 tokens
98556 crystals
3285.2 restoratives
2815.9 everything else

(BTW, I still don't know if the base drop rate for equipment is 2.5% or 4%, because the wiki says both, so let's assume 2.5% for now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )
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post May 23 2017, 05:13
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Got a few misc. questions here:

• Resplendent Regeneration and the Gold Star both increase regeneration.
Do these stack?
Do these apply to base regen only and not Draught regen?

• Super's income summary script has these levels on drops-related training.
Are these numbers considered to be the most cost-efficient, or otherwise some kind of standard?
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post May 23 2017, 05:43
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QUOTE(dairyman20111889 @ May 22 2017, 21:13) *

Got a few misc. questions here:

• Resplendent Regeneration and the Gold Star both increase regeneration.
Do these stack?
Do these apply to base regen only and not Draught regen?

• Super's income summary script has these levels on drops-related training.
Are these numbers considered to be the most cost-efficient, or otherwise some kind of standard?
(IMG:[puu.sh] https://puu.sh/vYIxD/f62437d109.png)

They stack.
Base regen only.
Most likely just Super's personal stat at the time he wrote it,need to ask him to be sure.
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post May 23 2017, 07:02
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QUOTE(jackalo @ May 22 2017, 10:05) *
you can find a str/dex/end force shield with 90% block varying suffix below 1 mill depending on level.


Didn't even notice this bit the first time around. Even if that particular shield was especially good, you are way off with your evaluation there.

Out of curiosity, I ran a quick SmartSearch on legendary str/dex/end force shields currently on the market and this is the result:

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Legendary Onyx Force Shield of Dampening 500, Str Dex End, BLK 48% 1.5m
Legendary Ruby Force Shield of Warding Unassigned, Str Dex End, BLK 45% 6m
Legendary Onyx Force Shield of Warding 500, Str Dex End, BLK 84% 2m
Legendary Cobalt Force Shield of Deflection 480, Str Dex End, IW 10, BLK 48% 180k
Legendary Jade Force Shield of Dampening 409, Str Dex End, BLK 88% 5m
Legendary Jade Force Shield of Warding 429, Str Dex End, BLK 3% 150k
Legendary Jade Force Shield of Warding 412, Str Dex End, BLK 7% 50k


No way in hell are you going to find a 90% base block shield for just a few million. So adjust your sights accordingly.

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post May 23 2017, 07:15
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• Super's income summary script has these levels on drops-related training.
Are these numbers considered to be the most cost-efficient, or otherwise some kind of standard?
(IMG:[puu.sh] https://puu.sh/vYIxD/f62437d109.png)


click the underlined numbers, and you can change them to your setting. That's what it's for. If that doesn't work, get the newest version of the script.
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