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post Nov 16 2011, 20:32
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i am using protection for most of the arena is it redundant.
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post Nov 16 2011, 20:39
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QUOTE(jerim @ Nov 16 2011, 22:32) *

i am using protection for most of the arena is it redundant.

If that's redundant - why do you end up killed by physical attacks then? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Oh well, do as you want... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

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post Nov 16 2011, 20:43
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my bad ,thanks ^^
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post Nov 16 2011, 20:45
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Jerim's asking if it's redundant to use Protection; and no it isn't. A spell that reduces the damage you take is always nice.
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post Nov 16 2011, 20:48
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QUOTE(DragonRanger @ Nov 16 2011, 22:45) *

Jerim's asking if it's redundant to use Protection; and no it isn't. A spell that reduces the damage you take is always nice.

God damn it... That's why I hate when people don't write properly... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Use Protection armor and Protection spell. I hope it's more clear now... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Nov 17 2011, 06:47
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Which Shade Breastplate should I use? I recently bought this Fleet one from an auction for it's great Evade, but I just had this Shadowdancer one drop from an arena today. The Fleet has (among other things) higher Evade, Resist and ADB, while the Shadowdancer one has decent (IMO) Evade for a non-Fleet, fair ADB and Resist, but also has 0 Burden and less Interference, as well as much better higher attribute bonuses... Opinions?

On a related note: Are Shade Boots supposed to have the worst evade? I don't think I've seen many, if not, any Shade Boots that have an evade above 4%, let alone in the high 3% range.

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post Nov 17 2011, 10:36
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Nov 17 2011, 05:47) *

Which Shade Breastplate should I use? I recently bought this Fleet one from an auction for it's great Evade, but I just had this Shadowdancer one drop from an arena today. The Fleet has (among other things) higher Evade, Resist and ADB, while the Shadowdancer one has decent (IMO) Evade for a non-Fleet, fair ADB and Resist, but also has 0 Burden and less Interference, as well as much better higher attribute bonuses... Opinions?

On a related note: Are Shade Boots supposed to have the worst evade? I don't think I've seen many, if not, any Shade Boots that have an evade above 4%, let alone in the high 3% range.

Shadowdancer.
Has higher physical mitigations, better attack stats (accuracy and crit), a bit worse in evade and resist but still.
But it also has no burden and slightly lower interference and much better bonuses to dexterity and agility.
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post Nov 17 2011, 13:46
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Nov 17 2011, 12:47) *

On a related note: Are Shade Boots supposed to have the worst evade? I don't think I've seen many, if not, any Shade Boots that have an evade above 4%, let alone in the high 3% range.


Yes, stat potential:
Chest > Legs > Head > Gloves > Boots
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post Nov 17 2011, 15:08
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Yay 4 me, got another aura, Black one. Only White left now :3
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post Nov 17 2011, 15:24
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QUOTE(Randommember @ Nov 17 2011, 03:36) *

Shadowdancer.
Has higher physical mitigations, better attack stats (accuracy and crit), a bit worse in evade and resist but still.
But it also has no burden and slightly lower interference and much better bonuses to dexterity and agility.


Just saying your choice would have been enough. No need to state pretty much everything I already did about the Shadowdancer Breastplate. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

QUOTE(Ballistic9 @ Nov 17 2011, 06:46) *

Yes, stat potential:
Chest > Legs > Head > Gloves > Boots


Alright then, thanks. Guess I'll have an easier time looking for an upgrade to my boots now.
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post Nov 17 2011, 15:38
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From the wiki:
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These grant supportive spell effects when used and last a long number of turns. Can be used with their respective spells but the effects do not stack.

Can anyone confirm this?
After using a Scroll of the Gods and a Scroll of the Avatar I immediately noticed a tremendous increase in performance.
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post Nov 17 2011, 15:42
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I can't confirm, but maybe it means the effects of the Scroll and the respective spells don't stack. Effects of different scrolls might still stack.
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post Nov 17 2011, 15:46
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Avatar and Gods have different effects, they can't stack (or they always stack, depending on how you see it).
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post Nov 17 2011, 16:06
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I have a question:

I think this item I just got from the Shrine is pretty decent, but can you grandmasters give me your opinion:

[Fine Power Helmet of Protection]

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post Nov 17 2011, 19:52
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I just gotta ask a few questions, hope you guys do not mind.

Can people actually do the higher difficulty? IWTBTH Seems almost impossible even for just one fight.

Is burden below 100 still ok? With heavy armor I have had like 80-90 burden. Is that a problem?

Lastly my stats say I should hit an enemy 80 percent of the time and yet I do not seem to hit the enemy that often at times. Can someone explain?
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post Nov 17 2011, 20:04
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At your level, don't even bother with IWBTH. At the very least, you should be able to handle Hard.

Burden above 20 means reduction in action speed for every point above that. Having low Burden is pretty difficult in Heavy Armor, but it's more meant for you to be able to take more hits rather than attack quickly.

Attack accuracy is not reflected properly by the stats of your character. I currently have 92.8% accuracy, and I still find myself missing far more often than I would like.
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post Nov 17 2011, 20:06
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magic/attack accuracy becomes a complete lie at higher levels--there are a large amount of monster evades and parries (through DEX/AGI) and resists (through END/WIS) that register as "miss" and are not counted as part of your base miss rate. Heartseeker and Arcane Focus can reduce this from happening, but not by 50%.

I'd prefer if accuracy bonuses reduced miss rate and monster evasion simultaneously, but monster stat-induced misses are something that seems to be unavoidable.

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post Nov 17 2011, 21:20
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QUOTE(Razorflame @ Nov 17 2011, 08:06) *

I have a question:

I think this item I just got from the Shrine is pretty decent, but can you grandmasters give me your opinion:

[Fine Power Helmet of Protection]

Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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post Nov 17 2011, 22:33
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QUOTE(DSpooky @ Nov 17 2011, 11:52) *

I just gotta ask a few questions, hope you guys do not mind.

Can people actually do the higher difficulty? IWTBTH Seems almost impossible even for just one fight.

Is burden below 100 still ok? With heavy armor I have had like 80-90 burden. Is that a problem?

Lastly my stats say I should hit an enemy 80 percent of the time and yet I do not seem to hit the enemy that often at times. Can someone explain?


Sorry for the double-post, but this question, I wanted to answer:

Before all of these updates, back in HV 0.5.0, people could easily do Battletoads on every playable arena and IWBTH on every arena before the Level 100 arena. People could get to round 3500+ in Grindfest with the right equipment and spells.

Now, it is much harder. I usually play on Normal for longer arenas and Item Worlds and Hard for Arenas and Item Worlds with fewer than 50 rounds because of the fact that if I tried it on higher difficulties, I would be in too much trouble. If I were you, I would stick to Normal for most everything you do that involves >35 rounds and Hard for everything involving fewer than 35 rounds. That should make you get good experience (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 18 2011, 00:57
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QUOTE(Razorflame @ Nov 17 2011, 21:20) *

Generally you want Balance and Slaughter power armor, but if the ADM/crit bonus is higher for you than currently go for it.

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